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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Artemis1992 said:
@Goldfish
Is this worth learning?
Elemental Bombardment – d20PFSRD

Looks cool, but I'm not sure.
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It seems neat, but it's more flash than substance, IMO. If we want to damage things, we have better options, and if we want to Summon Elementals, we can do so just as easily without hurling them at a target and inflicting unnecessary damage on our new temporary minion.

And if we want to drop an Elemental on someone, I would rather just Summon a Huge Earth Elemental directly over their head and let the 48,000 pound pile of rocks fall on them.
 
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DragonParadox said:
"It is not for the dominions of men that the crown is meant, but powers and principalities beyond this world," the fey sorceress interjects unexpectedly.

Moonsong throws her an arch look from the other side of the table. "Some people are just terrible at fishing, you know," she says ostensibly to the knight beside her. "They just slap a piece of dripping bait on the end of the line and toss it in with a big splash. No artistry I say."
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I agree with Moonsong here. You don't bait a shark by dumping a barrel of blood into the ocean and then holding your head in.
 
Once again, ideally we're going to work out an understanding with these things and responding 'Fuck no' isn't conductive to that.

There's no way they're getting it, of course.
 
[X] Fix the Fey sorceress with your most imposing and stern gaze.
-[X] I suggest you explain. Now

Aka fuck it, if she's not being subtle maybe it's time for us to not be subtle.
 
Maybe we should ask Moonsong if she would like a crown?

Or go retrieve Glyra and see if she is ready to become a monarch?

Oh, better idea. Let's give it to the Queen Rhaella. Fitting, right?
 
Goldfish said:
It seems neat, but it's more flash than substance, IMO. If we want to damage things, we have better options, and if we want to Summon Elementals, we can do so just as easily without hurling them at a target and inflicting unnecessary damage in our new temporary minion.

And if we want to drop an Elemental on someone, I would rather just Summon a Huge Earth Elemental directly over their head and let the 48,000 pound like of rocks fall in them.
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It does have long range, which is nice for a summoning.
And if you use it to summon a Huge Earth Elemental over someone's head you now have a definite number for the hitchance and damage it does.

It's propably too situational, so just keep it in mind for when we have Miracle, but there are some situations where giant monsters falling on people while we are on the outer edge of sight-range and appear uninvolved are nice.
 
So the way she said it means two things. It could mean that the crown has some protection or gives advantages against the fey or that they are going to give the crown to a fey queen and control the Reach as something like this would have conceptual effect. Either way hell to the naw.
 
Y'know, I was thinking that the Faith reformists were obvious puppets of the Fey, but I can't possibly imagine that they would countenance being officially refered to as 'Lesser Spirits.'
 
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[X] Plan Playing Along
-[X] "You seem rather impatient my lady. Not even a name I have to call you by, yet you interject so harshly."
-[X] "Two questions are raised by your words. One, what dominions you are speaking off and two, what Mace Tyrells stake in the matter is."
-[X] "So far, I see little reason why I should let you claim the crown, for an independent kingdom in the Reach is hardly something I look forward to, be it headed by men or Fey."

Let's be clear here. So far she has only given us nothing but another good reason to claim the thing for ourselves. If this is her idea of haggling, we might as well warm up the Turtle-Beam.
 
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zxzx24 said:
Except it totally does.
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No it doesn't.

This is putting a historic crown in the hands of people who can use it to its fullest extent. It would literally be Garth the Green come again, and that's a pretty major blow against our legitimacy. Our dynasty is only three centuries old. Garth the Green's legend endured for millennia.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Hmm on one hand fuck you the crown is ours but on the other this would be all the justification we need to tear the fey in the Reach asunder. Hmm letting the fey take the crown would be interesting but Duesal would probably murder me in my sleep so....
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Eh Fey having kings isn't much of a problem, even if they are in our realm, rules of nobility mean enough for Fey, that as long as we get them to acknowledge us as high king, whether they are Fey kings or lords wont matter.
 
I'm trying to think of an angle that isn't directly empowering a Fey into Royalty.

The three things that come to mind are either trading it for some sort of boon from something that's already Fey Royalty tier, specifically sacrificing it to a Divine Tier, or some sort of residual magical effect is doing fuckery and it relies on the Crown to set it straight.

As it stands, this is bait to get us to directly ask what's going on so we can make a more informed decision. This would then lead to some sort of concession because Fey don't just hand things out regardless of the situation.

Therefore the best solution is to play turnabout and indicate that we just don't care and are taking the crown, so you're going to have to be the ones to make opening bids if you want to convince us otherwise.
 
"It is not for the dominions of men that the crown is meant, but powers and principalities beyond this world," the fey sorceress interjects unexpectedly.

"I have become something of an expert on the powers and principalities beyond this world. Casting down Efreeti lords and spitting in the Sultan of Brass' eye is something of a hobby of mine when I am not plundering the depths of the Plane of Earth with my good friends the Shaitan, or discussing interplanar trade with my allies, the Djinni of the Plane of Air. I shouldn't overlook my dealings with the forces of Hell, either. We have been so successful combating the hosts of Baator that you might be able to find a new footnote or two regarding my friends and I in the Pact Primeval. Or were you talking about that shithole, the Feywild? Yeah, we avoid that festering pustule on the anus of reality. It's not the Abyss, of course, but it's close enough that rightminded folks should avoid it all the same."

Mic drop.
 
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DragonParadox said:
people are just terrible at fishing, you know," she says ostensibly to the knight beside her. "They just slap a piece of dripping bait on the end of the line and toss it in with a big splash. No artistry I say."
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Goldfish said:
And if we want to drop an Elemental on someone, I would rather just Summon a Huge Earth Elemental directly over their head and let the 48,000 pound pile of rocks fall on them
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You can't summon something on something that wouldn't hold their weight.
Goldfish said:
Oh, better idea. Let's give it to the Queen Rhaella. Fitting, right?
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I like it.

Azel said:
[X] Plan Playing Along
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It is sensible and polite, but I must insist on this:
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"How intriguing; it appears that overreaching is not merely the providence of men in these days."
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Too good to pass up.
 
Goldfish said:
"It is not for the dominions of men that the crown is meant, but powers and principalities beyond this world," the fey sorceress interjects unexpectedly.

"I have become something of an expert on the powers and principalities beyond this world. Casting down Efreeti lords and spitting in the Sultan of Brass' eye is something of a hobby of mine when I am not plundering the depths of the Plane of Earth with my good friends the Shaitan, or discussing interplanetary trade with my allies, the Djinni of the Plane of Earth. I shouldn't overlook my dealings with the forces of Hell, either. We have been so successful combating the hosts of Baator that you might be able to find a new footnote or two regarding my friends and I in the Pact Primeval. Or were you talking about that shithole, the Feywild? Yeah, we avoid that festering pustule on the anus of reality. It's not the Abyss, of course, but it's close enough that rightminded folks should avoid it all the same."

Mic drop.
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It's Djinni of the Plane of Air and you are implying that we are not also allied with the Shaitan.

Lastly, you forgot to brush some lint of our 100% Mammon Skin Cloak.
 
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