[X] Azel
On one hand his line needs to end, but on the other he seems like a decent dad so... bring it home Azel
From the instructions we have gotten so far his line need to end, but the possibility of conversion hasn't been brought up, him forswearing the Seven and sacrificing before a Heart Tree, would probably be an even bigger joy for the old gods than his line ending.
Amazing.
Let's not school him on feminism. He's due to die anyway along with his line, and if the daughter is associated with him we'll have to kill her too or at least ruin her life. Let's just make sure she gets something when he dies.
We are not commanded to kill his line, we are commanded to end his line which is different, the women may marry into other families and take their names, the men may go to the Wall, or may for that matter just reject their inheritance and name and become hedge knights, what matter is that their rule of the Vale comes to an end.
And even then I expect the old gods will also accept conversion, especially if the newly converted set out to grow a Heart Tree in the Blood(or whatever equivalent undeads have) of Winter and the old gods other enemies, for every tree their ancestors cut down, penance and sacrifice will probably be accepted even better than ending the lines, because that spite the Seven, and get the old gods extra power, in the form of either beings or magic items sacrificed to them.
We can be lentient, once some Blood for the Bloodgods has been spilled. DP was, a few years ago, quite clear that a loud part of the OGs is too pissed of to accept lentient methods before getting some revenge in.
So I suggest getting some Corbray blood on a tree before we start talking mercy.
Blood for the blood gods are needed yes, and in this case the Corbrays will make great sacrifices, as they are corrupted by devils, but if the Corbrays should turn out to be the only line we really have cause to kill, I'm sure the old gods will accept appeasement sacrifices from the other lines, in anything Winterborn.
After we have killed the Corbrays and one or 2 lines more, and we are king of Westeros, we can tell even the lines who still want to follow the Seven, that they must make amend to the old gods in some way, and so we charge the warriors of their house with going out, and bringing back either live enemies of humanity, or their cursed artefacts, so that they may repay their lines debt to the old gods, by gathering the sacrifices to regrow the Weirwoods their ancestors cut down, I expect the old gods will accept that, after a bit of their fury has been dealt with by sacrificing the Corbrays.
They want lines ended and The Seven themselves humbled.
That's what they say they want, and the most straightforward way to deal with things, but that don't mean there aren't alternatives, or that the old gods will not accept compromises.
You need a King to legitimize a Bastard. I suppose it will further push him toward Viserys.
The current King is Robert, considering Allysa had no fiancé the Bard stole him from, Robert will probably look at how they are in love with each other, be reminded of how he loved Lyanna, and gladly bless their marriage and legitimize their son.
If the Bard had stolen Allysa from a fiancé getting Roberts blessing would be near impossible, but since she had no fiancé, the romantic in Robert will gladly legitimize their child, after all this is clearly true love like he felt for Lyanna, no way Robert want to stop that.
We must not forget that in Roberts narrative he's the great hero, Lyanna was kidnapped by Rhaegar, and Robert fought to free her but was too late resulting in her death, and as the tragic hero mourning his loves death, there's no way he would want to prevent another loving couples happiness, especially since the bard is very charismatic and as a Skagoosi a bit crude, exactly the kind of guy Robert identify with and like, so it will be easy for the Bard to win Roberts approval.
The old gods want the entire line ended. The advice of having the daughters marry off to lesser lordling was just a way of dealing with the females. They will still want the males killed or sent to the Wall.
Ofc, Sacrificing the corbray may make the old gods show mercy. But the important part is ending their house name and thus their legacy.
Ending the line is what the old gods think they want, and probably one of the outcomes they want, that don't mean it's the only outcome they want, just the one they have mainly considered, there's a significant chance, that converting the line and having them sacrifice to the old gods, will make them even happier.
The Andals ended ancient First men houses. The old gods want "justice". The old "eye for an eye" sort. So, they want the Andal houses ended. It just doesn't matter how we do so. We don't even need to have a single member killed. Just their name and legacy grounded into dust.
At least that's what I got from the conversation.
That's what they said, that don't mean it's gospel, we can offer them alternatives, and there's good chances they will accept, we could probably talk them into allowing a still Seven worshipping line to live, on the condition that said Seven worshipping line, had to capture enough minions of the Others, to regrow the amount of Weirwood their ancestors cut down.
That would be a hard sell, but it's a compromise they might accept, the lines paying weregeld, in the blood of the enemies the old gods hate even more than the Seven.
