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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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TalonofAnathrax said:
[X] Hire Yrten to spend a day looking for targets for you to hit (he gets 5% of the loot if his intel is good), while you meanwhile go to kill the garrison of a Salamander place to encourage rebellion. Try to hide the fact that a Dragon did it.
-[X] Make a better deal with our new friends:
-[X] They can use our port as a friendly one and trade there as long as they follow the local laws. We would appreciate if they gave us first buy to any truly crazy artefacts they found - we'd offer a good price for them. Oh, and we'll buy stuff like Efreet military hardware that would otherwise be hard to sell on this Plane. In exchange we'd prefer if they didn't trade with people on our Plane that we are currently at war with.
-[X] She can access our library and learn any spell we have in scroll form on condition that she herself offers us a scroll of a spell we don't have or a lore book we don't have whenever she does this. She should be able to get extraplanar books easily enough, you see.
-[X] We'll sell her our "break a devil from Hell" ritual. In exchange we want her to craft us an item of at-will Glimpse of Truth, a level 3 [Evil] Divination spell that answers Yes/No questions reliably. She's a Hellish Wizard, she has to know it. Oh, and it can't be getting the answers from Mammon please :D
They'll give us intel about the situation on the Plane of Fire, especially good targets or targets to avoid. In exchange we'll give them 5% of any loot we get from one of those targets if their intel was good.
-[X] They'll go after targets that more directly harm the Efreet. In exchange, they get 90% of what the Shaitan would pay us. They can also call us in for help in case they find an awesome target again, but then we'll claim part of the loot. They can also call for a few more 6th-circle spellcasters (or equivalent), in which case we'll take some loot but less than 50%. We give them a Sending stone and an Arcane Mark to home in on. We reserve the right to not come if we're busy.
-[X] They'll help us recruit more pirates or settlements for similar missions. For each one they point us at and give us intel about that ends up joining us, we'll summon one of her devil friends for her (as long as it doesn't serve Mammon). We have state-of-the-art summoning facilities, after all... If they do the recruiting themselves, then they get 100% of what the Shaitan pay us for that month/year/whatever interval the Shaitan pay us at.
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Highlighted part is strange, and not only because DP already told us she doesn't have any crafting feats.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
For all you nerds in the thread:
Accurate?

Also, votes for the vote god:
[X] Hire Yrten to spend a day looking for targets for you to hit, while you meanwhile go hunting whalers wherever he says is best.
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Pretty much yeah. But to be fair both sides shit the bed on an almost regular basis, and while you'd think that fighting a giant evil flaming god that stabbed the fucking planet with a sword the size of a continent would put things into perspective and get them to straighten up, you'd be wrong.

[X] TotallyNotEvil
 
Azel said:
True.

It's just that I would have liked to end this on a high note instead of just pulverizing some local fishers.
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We will also be looting Brass Horseman, I take it, won't we?

Then there is still chance to get an encounter more.

That is, of course, if we don't get to cheapshot Bey now.
 
Quick reminder that the Shaitan are not just paying us bounties against ships for the sake of destroying ships, but because they want to incite the Salamander tribes into rebellion and embolden pirates to attack Effreti ships.

We get a nice bonus for every Salamander Tribe we manage to rouse into open rebellion.
 
Azel said:
The problem is more the price. We pay 400 IM per HD and with Mammon'S 28 HD, animating his carcass would cost us 11,200 IM and nearly two months of crafting. Though Lya would cut that down by 1/4th.

We could instead try to raise him as a zombie though. Or something other undead. They don't need perverse amounts of time to craft.

@Goldfish, any good mindless undead we could turn his remnants into?
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Nothing that immediately comes to mind.
 
Azel said:
True.

It's just that I would have liked to end this on a high note instead of just pulverizing some local fishers.
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This isn't the end of the action, this is one day, after which we spend two or three more days hitting much more valuable targets or possibly the Bey of Beggars.

Anyway, @TalonofAnathrax
1. The "break away from Hell" ritual is useless for Siduri because we're the only ones who can do it safely. Siduri didn't win the right to take devils from Mammon, we did.

Giving the ritual to her is the equivalent of mocking her with the fact that she has a tool she can't even use.

2. With this part:
-[] They'll go after targets that more directly harm the Efreet. In exchange, they get 90% of what the Shaitan would pay us. They can also call us in for help in case they find an awesome target again, but then we'll claim part of the loot. They can also call for a few more 6th-circle spellcasters (or equivalent), in which case we'll take some loot but less than 50%. We give them a Sending stone and an Arcane Mark to home in on. We reserve the right to not come if we're busy.
How about you hold off? We don't even know how much the Shaitan are paying us in the first place. Instead of this I wanted to simply offer to buy the ships from Yrten and Siduri instead of splitting the bounty with them. Their main issue was the fact that Efreeti ships have zero buyers, so we could just do that.
 
Algalon said:
Quick reminder that the Shaitan are not just paying us bounties against ships for the sake of destroying ships, but because they want to incite the Salamander tribes into rebellion and embolden pirates to attack Effreti ships.

We get a nice bonus for every Salamander Tribe we manage to rouse into open rebellion.
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Yeah, but we can see about that after Yrten gathers some info.

Even narratively speaking, it feels like it's time, as DP put it, for a short intermission.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by TotallyNotEvil on Sep 11, 2018 at 4:06 PM, finished with 226026 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Hire Yrten to spend a day looking for targets for you to hit, while you meanwhile go hunting whalers wherever he says is best.
    [X] Meet your black market contacts on the Bazaar of Beggars, find out if the Bey of Beggars is still the same and if an attack on him looks promising.
    [X] Hire Yrten to spend a day looking for targets for you to hit (he gets 5% of the loot if his intel is good), while you meanwhile go to kill the garrison of a Salamander place to encourage rebellion. Try to hide the fact that a Dragon did it.
    -[X] Make a better deal with our new friends:
    -[X] They can use our port as a friendly one and trade there as long as they follow the local laws. We would appreciate if they gave us first buy to any truly crazy artefacts they found - we'd offer a good price for them. Oh, and we'll buy stuff like Efreet military hardware that would otherwise be hard to sell on this Plane. In exchange we'd prefer if they didn't trade with people on our Plane that we are currently at war with.
    -[X] She can access our library and learn any spell we have in scroll form on condition that she herself offers us a scroll of a spell we don't have or a lore book we don't have whenever she does this. She should be able to get extraplanar books easily enough, you see.
    -[X] We'll sell her our "break a devil from Hell" ritual. In exchange we want her to get us an item of at-will Glimpse of Truth, a level 3 [Evil] Divination spell that answers Yes/No questions reliably. She's a Hellish Wizard, she has to know people who can supply it. Oh, and it can't be getting the answers from Mammon please :D
    -[X] They'll go after targets that more directly harm the Efreet. In exchange, they get 90% of what the Shaitan would pay us. They can also call us in for help in case they find an awesome target again, but then we'll claim up to 66% of the loot. They can also call for a few more 6th-circle spellcasters (or equivalent), in which case we'll just send a free Companion or two and take 33% of the loot.. We give them a Sending stone and an Arcane Mark to home in on. We reserve the right to not come if we're busy.
    -[X] They'll help us recruit more pirates or settlements for similar missions. For each one they point us at and give us intel about that ends up joining us, we'll summon one of her devil friends for her (as long as it doesn't serve Mammon). We have state-of-the-art summoning facilities, after all... If they do the recruiting themselves, then they get 100% of what the Shaitan pay us for that month/year/whatever interval the Shaitan pay us at.
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Azel said:
Frankly, I'm not terribly interested in killing tons of whalers. It's boring and rather pointless.
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Think of it less like killing Whalers and more like investing into potentially recruitable giant flying flaming whales with chips on their shoulders and a hatred for all things evil.

I mean yes the one we know is a pacifist most of the time, but I'm pretty sure we can find a hot head or two in the pod looking for adventure and new horizons to spread their flippers.
 
Azel said:
The problem is more the price. We pay 400 IM per HD and with Mammon'S 28 HD, animating his carcass would cost us 11,200 IM and nearly two months of crafting. Though Lya would cut that down by 1/4th.

We could instead try to raise him as a zombie though. Or something other undead. They don't need perverse amounts of time to craft.

@Goldfish, any good mindless undead we could turn his remnants into?
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I'm pretty sure we'd be cutting up 5 to 15 HD from him, easily, mind you.
 
[X] Plan Preparing the Grand Finale
-[X] Make a deal with Yrten:
--[X] They can use our port as a friendly one and trade there as long as they follow the local laws. We request first buy rights for anything impressive they bring, especially military hardware. In exchange, they agree to not trade in any other ports that are not controlled by us or our allies. We are either at war or soon to be at war with everyone else.
--[X] She can access our library and learn any spell we have in scroll form on condition that she herself offers us a scroll of a spell we don't have or a lore book we don't have whenever she does this. She should be able to get extraplanar books easily enough, you see.
--[X] They'll give us intel about the situation on the Plane of Fire, especially good targets or targets to avoid.
--[X] Whenever they find something good enough, they can call us for support. The split of the plunder will be decided on a case by case basis.
--[X] Ask them to look for other pirates and settlements inclined to make deals with us. If the getting looks good, we would be interested in supporting their efforts monetarily.
-[X] Plan for the remaining days:
--[X] Let Yrten gather intel about the garrisons near the Salamander tribes.
--[X] The party meanwhile destroys some whalers.
--[X] On the last day, go over the information and pick a garrison to destroy.
 
Duesal said:
This isn't the end of the action, this is one day, after which we spend two or three more days hitting much more valuable targets or possibly the Bey of Beggars.

Anyway, @TalonofAnathrax
1. The "break away from Hell" ritual is useless for Siduri because we're the only ones who can do it safely. Siduri didn't win the right to take devils from Mammon, we did.

Giving the ritual to her is the equivalent of mocking her with the fact that she has a tool she can't even use.

2. With this part:
-[] They'll go after targets that more directly harm the Efreet. In exchange, they get 90% of what the Shaitan would pay us. They can also call us in for help in case they find an awesome target again, but then we'll claim part of the loot. They can also call for a few more 6th-circle spellcasters (or equivalent), in which case we'll take some loot but less than 50%. We give them a Sending stone and an Arcane Mark to home in on. We reserve the right to not come if we're busy.
How about you hold off? We don't even know how much the Shaitan are paying us in the first place. Instead of this I wanted to simply offer to buy the ships from Yrten and Siduri instead of splitting the bounty with them. Their main issue was the fact that Efreeti ships have zero buyers, so we could just do that.
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Good point. Vote edited to "we'll buy the ships at a very good price".
 
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