Wow, a contested vote with strong participation.

Seeing that (without any salt attached) is really nice for me as a GM.:)

Is it not sweet to the ear to know how often these things are resolved without any fuss whatsoever?

As far as I'm aware and from my experience with Questing, that basically doesn't happen anywhere else.
 
Is it not sweet to the ear to know how often these things are resolved without any fuss whatsoever?

As far as I'm aware and from my experience with Questing, that basically doesn't happen anywhere else.

Don't get me wrong. I like the consensual style around here a lot, you guys are great. It's just nice to see that I occasionally present a vote complex enough that the results are strongly divided.
 
Quicksilver dragons are known to have an odd sense of humor. It would be quite belivable for an adult to take wyrmling shape on a whim.

Which neatly solves "Why the fuck can a wyrmling cast sixth level cleric spells!?!?!?!" too :D

Handy.

[X] Goldfish

Don't get me wrong. I like the consensual style around here a lot, you guys are great. It's just nice to see that I occasionally present a vote complex enough that the results are strongly divided.

I think that part of that is that we have had enough times to get to grips with a few of our medium term goals (read: conquest), and when the general direction for a vote is picked, tone and wording is usually easier to come to a consensual on. At, least that's how I see it :).

Also, I would also like to bring up that we were first approached by an individual that (unless he divininded that we had friends with us by asking around our mindblank. Somehow), wanted to hire us as a Young Adult Red to attack that ship.

Your average YA Red. On it's own. As bait to lead the ship we attacked into range of the pirate ship or attack it. Suicide. Against those hellfire guns, fiends, and boss chap? No chance (unless it's reinforcements that caused the massive power concentration, I suppose :(. dull. Trechery is more fun).

I think that Yrten heard of our inquiries, made quick contact with some fiends through some contacts that he knows, and a deal gets set up, without him having to work with the friends directly. Fiends that would love the opportunity to have an angry YA Red deliver itself to them, set up a deal (pirates send us, and get a small cut), the fiends get our corpse and soul if they're lucky. Then we introduced our friends. Powerful friends. Then the fiends get demolished in in what, 12? 18 seconds?. Yeah. I'd be freaking out. Thinking on it, there may not even be a snake, lol.

@DragonParadox Does Viserys think that Yrten tried to kill us? 'Cuz I do. Unless that was the reinforcements that we had called forward by attacking the military convoy? Which is... less fun. :D
 
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I think that Yrten heard of our inquiries, made quick contact with some fiends through some contacts that he knows, and a deal gets set up, without him having to work with the friends directly. Fiends that would love the opportunity to have an angry YA Red deliver itself to them, set up a deal (pirates send us, and get a small cut), the fiends get our corpse and soul if they're lucky. Then we introduced our friends. Powerful friends. Then the fiends get demolished in in what, 12? 18 seconds?. Yeah. I'd be freaking out. Thinking on it, there may not even be a snake, lol.

@DragonParadox Does Viserys think that Yrten tried to kill us? 'Cuz I do. Unless that was the reinforcements that we had called forward by attacking the military convoy? Which is... less fun.

If he actually tried to arrange our murder, then that is hilarious, and it just means there's one more ship for us to loot.

Highly unlikely, though. He fought pretty hard against the devils.
 
Also, I would also like to bring up that we were first approached by an individual that (unless he divininded that we had friends with us by asking around our mindblank. Somehow), wanted to hire us as a Young Adult Red to attack that ship.

Your average YA Red. On it's own. As bait to lead the ship we attacked into range of the pirate ship or attack it. Suicide. Against those hellfire guns, fiends, and boss chap? No chance (unless it's reinforcements that caused the massive power concentration, I suppose :(. dull. Trechery is more fun).
First, we looked like an Adult Red, not young anymore.

Second, with Yrten's full crew and the fire-support from his own ship guns things would have looked very different.
In all likelyhood he could have taken the crew with his own and those multiple ballistas with silver bolts and powerful magic.

He would have needed the dragon mostly for the Golems I suspect.
The Captain could have fallen to Melf's Arrow of Slumber or to the Banishment-arrow. THey had some tricks prepared that had a very real chance of defeating that guy.
 
If he actually tried to arrange our murder, then that is hilarious, and it just means there's one more ship for us to loot.

Highly unlikely, though. He fought pretty hard against the devils.

I agree with all you said. Highly unlikely, but nothing yet disproves it ;).

The devil fighting could be "Oh fuckkkk, dragon can teleport and has sixth circle casters and those that he counts as warriors of comparable strength. The weird dragon who went for information over money, who let my deflection on the information bit slide. Hmm, fiends that are calling reinforcements, or weirddd dragon. Who's scarier"

But yeah, I'm reaching with this because it's fun :D.

@All first thing I think we should do as soon as the ship is cleared is to bloodwish a sending to Baella so she doesn't waste her ring. Depending on the snake status (i.e.how long it looks like it will take to sort out), we should maybe send first, even a "warriors either defeated or fled, we're all fine, securing the ship now, see you in a few hours :D" will do if clean up looks to be time consuming.
 
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Also, I would also like to bring up that we were first approached by an individual that (unless he divininded that we had friends with us by asking around our mindblank. Somehow), wanted to hire us as a Young Adult Red to attack that ship.

Red Adult, now. We look like an older one, the age category isn't just for bragging rights or stat blocks. Our horns are... more distinguished. Shall we say.
 
[X] Plan Cast A Hook
-[X] "Should not all strive to be more then they are?"
-[X] "You have seen my shape and assumed to know who I am, just a greedy, preening dragon. But know that I am more then scales and flame."
-[X] Transform into your human shape.
-[X] "Though I am afraid that I do not gift all my secrets to just anyone."
 
Wait, why does Lya have

Knowledge (Architecture & Engineering): 2 +6 (INT) + = 8
Knowledge (Mathematics): 2 +6 (INT) + = 8

rather than putting one of each of those bringing up concentration to 19 and arcana to 19? or adding both to spellcraft?

I think Goldfish doesn't even check Lya's page when he does level-ups.

A few things I've noticed. 1) He, and some others, since I know not everyone checks the front page these days, thinks that she has maxed Spellcraft, Arcana, Planes and Religion.

Not the case. In fact for some reason Religion is 1 point higher than should be possible for her current HD. Which means one point needs to go somewhere else, since I noticed Planes is 1 point behind for some reason

Edit: As to the new knowledge skills, that's what we voted for. Because again, it was decided to diversify her knowledge base a bit now that she had some spare points and had maxed the central 'wizard' skills. Only that, y'know, we apparently hadn't, because the sheet is wonky. Many sheets are wonky still.

They need to be audited.

Edit Dos: Also, max ranks in a skill for Lya at this level is 18, not 19. She's level 15, not level 16.
 
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I seriously think you guys are rocking too much of that draconic ego. Far too much.

The point of the lizard line was to mockingly echo what they probably thought about us, but that was, yet again, lost on everyone it seems. Instead we get more dick-waving...
 
I actually think it is the reverse. In Viserys' internal dialogue, he consistently thinks stuff like "oh, I'm just but a single youthful wyrm out here in the Planes" only to rethink it upon meeting someone with any power or authority who's warily keeping a wide berth around them or speaking to them cautiously, then thinking "oh I guess even the youngest of wyrms cannot be discounted"... and he thinks something like this every time he goes somewhere new out in the Planes. Without fail.

It's sort of highlighting Viserys trying to deflate his own ego and getting his efforts stymied upon realization that these days he's not the discounted boy exile he was not that long ago. Yrten and Siduri and their crew weren't underestimating us or thinking we were just some megalomaniac reptile. Rarely is that actually the case, and DP tries to show only actual "pride before all reason" types actually think shit like that.
 
I actually think it is the reverse. In Viserys' internal dialogue, he consistently thinks stuff like "oh, I'm just but a single youthful wyrm out here in the Planes" only to rethink it upon meeting someone with any power or authority who's warily keeping a wide berth around them or speaking to them cautiously, then thinking "oh I guess even the youngest of wyrms cannot be discounted"... and he thinks something like this every time he goes somewhere new out in the Planes. Without fail.

It's sort of highlighting Viserys trying to deflate his own ego and getting his efforts stymied upon realization that these days he's not the discounted boy exile he was not that long ago. Yrten and Siduri and their crew weren't underestimating us or thinking we were just some megalomaniac reptile. Rarely is that actually the case, and DP tries to show only actual "pride before all reason" types actually think shit like that.
The point is less chastising them for something, but to aim at Siduri's heritage.

She is a Tiefling, a human with some Fiend mixed in, in the middle of the PoF. Don't you think she gets called "just a human" and "just a fiend-spawn" often enough?

I'm just a bit annoyed that it's considered a tremendous crime by the thread to even think something bad about dragons or interact with anyone not from high-above. To say nothing about the art of subtly manipulating someone being usually lost on most and immediately loosing when I'm not around to defend the approach.
 
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[X] Azel

I'm not that anchored to my own ego, either, mind you.
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Sep 9, 2018 at 2:59 AM, finished with 180 posts and 28 votes.

  • [X] "Are we not all more than we appear to be at first glance, Wisdom?"
    -[X] As we answer, gradually return to human form, timing it so that we become fully human just as we finish speaking.
    --[X] "Of course, there is a story to be told, one that is all the more fantastical for being the unvarnished truth. That tale won't be told quite yet, however, as I find myself...curious. What is it that you truly seek, that you would pit yourselves against foes such as these, when the Efreeti ships plying the Boiling Sea make such easy targets of themselves?"
    [X] Plan Cast A Hook
    -[X] "Should not all strive to be more then they are?"
    -[X] "You have seen my shape and assumed to know who I am, just a greedy, preening dragon. But know that I am more then scales and flame."
    -[X] Transform into your human shape.
    -[X] "Though I am afraid that I do not gift all my secrets to just anyone."
    [X] "A bold question, but of course, we are all more than we appear dont you agree?"
    -[X] "In any case, when asking for someone's secrets, its always polite yo offer your own, perhaps you can now tell me why we are really here? What do you want with this prisoner, and why would a group of pirates risk bringing a red dragon of all things to their prize?"
    -[X] "But to answer your question, does the name "Valyria" mean anything to you?"
 
I honestly don't see difference between votes and think we should settle this much more simply in general.

I much prefer the more blunt method of diplomacy like Vee does.
 
Platonically! Platonically. :ogles:
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Sep 9, 2018 at 5:09 AM, finished with 189 posts and 32 votes.

  • [X] "Are we not all more than we appear to be at first glance, Wisdom?"
    -[X] As we answer, gradually return to human form, timing it so that we become fully human just as we finish speaking.
    --[X] "Of course, there is a story to be told, one that is all the more fantastical for being the unvarnished truth. That tale won't be told quite yet, however, as I find myself...curious. What is it that you truly seek, that you would pit yourselves against foes such as these, when the Efreeti ships plying the Boiling Sea make such easy targets of themselves?"
    [X] Plan Cast A Hook
    -[X] "Should not all strive to be more then they are?"
    -[X] "You have seen my shape and assumed to know who I am, just a greedy, preening dragon. But know that I am more then scales and flame."
    -[X] Transform into your human shape.
    -[X] "Though I am afraid that I do not gift all my secrets to just anyone."
    [X] "A bold question, but of course, we are all more than we appear dont you agree?"
    -[X] "In any case, when asking for someone's secrets, its always polite yo offer your own, perhaps you can now tell me why we are really here? What do you want with this prisoner, and why would a group of pirates risk bringing a red dragon of all things to their prize?"
    -[X] "But to answer your question, does the name "Valyria" mean anything to you?"
 
With level 6 spells she'd be around Rina's power, useful for B or even A-Party adventures.
Much better than jut another lecturer.

I imagine we could easily recruit them both and crew when we construct a floating antigravity fortress of Doom. So much loot when we start raiding Brazen Throne assets and whalers on the regular. :drevil:

Also trade income if we can be the go between between PoF and Shaitans. :coolbeans:

Imagine how salty we would be if Vee left for another party, lets do it! :rofl:

Edit: @Azel you will always have my vote to push for antiG fortresses if we set up one for raiding in PoF!
 
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[x] Azel

// I like the subtle 'and I know what you did think about me. Think again.' spin.
 
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