As it was, while the Behryvar and Styrmyr weren't exactly friends, they were definitely driven deeper into each other's camps by the Dual Crown showing general disinterest, while also moving away from the orbit of the Dual Crown.
Oh my, this might lead to the Intermarium. They may have drifted away from the Dual Crown, but they sure as hell didn't drift closer to anyone else either. Hespranxer didn't help, Ochruhr are dicks, Kielmyr are with us, and the Sketch are Sketch. We're seeing the beginnings of a 3rd Bloc.

EDIT: Also the Black Sheep Emperor can fuck off with his irritation. He needs to clean his own house, the idiot.
 
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[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives

Adding the extra PW in for the conservatives to take the Temperance action.
 
I'm pleasantly surprised that we've got a peace opportunity so fast; I really didn't expect things to go this well.

[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)

The longer this war runs, the more opportunities it has to blow up in our face irrecoverably, or for somebody to toss a spanner in the works. We're getting the railroad built, and we're preventing the Black Sheep from splitting in half. That sounds like winning to me.
 
Just to remind me, are we stopping the rearmament for now, or are we starting on the full turn or what happened to it?
 
[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives

[] [War] 0 PW - Keep negotiating (-2 Temp Trust, one military choice next phase, seek better terms)

Stay at war for a bit longer. This is the first offer. We can afford a little more pressure. We are winning.

And honestly it is the PW cost that makes me hesitate.
 
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[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)

We must end this war while the Western Black Sheep still hold bargaining of power, before the Eastern Black Sheep win too much. If the EBS Emperor can dictate the peace terms, we'll end up with rivers of blood in the WBS.
 
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[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)

We must end this war while the Western Black Sheep still hold bargaining of power, before the Eastern Black Sheep win too much. If the EBS Emperor can dictate the peace terms, we'll end up with rivers of blood in the WBS.
We already had rivers of blood in the WBS. We need to push a little harder to make sure it doesn't happen again in 20 years.
 
[X] Plan Temperate Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
-[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)

To me it seems like there is big of a risk of things going badly if the war continues with it only being better for us if it's perfectly balanced between us not winning to much and also not losing.
Even if we get this perfect balance it would have opportunity costs, people would die and western black sheep would have to endure more destruction.
 
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[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)


Whoops, temperate workers doesn't work if you want the peace deal since it puts us in negative PW. Have a modified plan that drops the PW to the conservative party
 
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[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)

A valid plan this time. The Conservatives can cut Temperance, or cut Science.
 
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[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
Adhoc vote count started by sam5447 on Aug 25, 2018 at 7:17 PM, finished with 28 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X][Army] Assist Eastern Black Sheep forces
    [X][Khem] 1 PW - Found Khemetri Rail Company and give extra investment (-2 IC, -3 temp IC, founds Khemetri company as above, adds an extra rail action to the project this turn)
    [X][Temp] All-In (Makes Speech Early, ???)
    [X][Congress] 0 PW - Send a token observer and stay out of it (-5 Prestige, +1 temp Trust)
    [X] Plan Workers Arise!
    [X] Plan Temperate Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
    [X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
    [X] Plan Balanced Budget
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X]Plan Royal Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X] [War] 0 PW - Keep negotiating (-2 Temp Trust, one military choice next phase, seek better terms)

Adhoc vote count started by sam5447 on Aug 25, 2018 at 7:18 PM, finished with 29 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X][Army] Assist Eastern Black Sheep forces
    [X][Khem] 1 PW - Found Khemetri Rail Company and give extra investment (-2 IC, -3 temp IC, founds Khemetri company as above, adds an extra rail action to the project this turn)
    [X][Temp] All-In (Makes Speech Early, ???)
    [X][Congress] 0 PW - Send a token observer and stay out of it (-5 Prestige, +1 temp Trust)
    [X] Plan Workers Arise!
    [X] Plan Temperate Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
    [X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
    [X] Plan Balanced Budget
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X]Plan Royal Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X] [War] 0 PW - Keep negotiating (-2 Temp Trust, one military choice next phase, seek better terms)

Adhoc vote count started by sam5447 on Aug 25, 2018 at 7:20 PM, finished with 31 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X][Army] Assist Eastern Black Sheep forces
    [X][Khem] 1 PW - Found Khemetri Rail Company and give extra investment (-2 IC, -3 temp IC, founds Khemetri company as above, adds an extra rail action to the project this turn)
    [X][Temp] All-In (Makes Speech Early, ???)
    [X][Congress] 0 PW - Send a token observer and stay out of it (-5 Prestige, +1 temp Trust)
    [X] Plan Workers Arise!
    [X] Plan Temperate Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Conservatives
    [X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
    [X] Plan Balanced Budget
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X]Plan Royal Workers
    -[X] 1 PW to Royalists
    -[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
    [X] [War] 0 PW - Keep negotiating (-2 Temp Trust, one military choice next phase, seek better terms)
 
[X] Plan Balanced Budget
-[X] 1 PW to Royalists
-[X] 2 PW to Urban Workers
[X] [War] 1 PW - Accept current terms (-2 IC, Kus rail company doubled in power, -1 Trust, Black Sheep irritated, war ends)
 
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