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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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BeepSmile said:
Or we can get Lya to rebuild the spells and not have students face fiendish knowledge directly just because we acquired a great resource and are happy about it
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I've linked spells that let you perfectly filter through a collection of texts for specific information, she now has an index, once we're done adding useful features and whole other beings life history it won't be an Unilla in book form anymore.
 
BeepSmile said:
@Azel he is so not ready for ] 2. He strikes a side-deal with the genies and hire himself and his crews to them. They have sky-ships, not sea-ships, but we trust him to none the less have a very productive privateer career against the Efreeti.

Unless you dial it back to just setting the seeds of him preparing to do this
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I have no idea why you think he isn't ready for this. If there's anyone who could deal with this, then Salladhor.
 
Duesal said:
Either way, we are never getting rid of this book. We earned that Uniila fair and square, and she will have a place of honor in the forbidden section of he library.
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I kind of thought we'll make a complete copy of all things written in her, then dispell her and sacrifice for DATree?
I mean, no such thing as too much HD, eh?
 
@Goldfish, where do you plan to host the next meetings? My economic plans require regular meetings between representatives of the signatories to function.
 
Azel said:
[X] Plan Planar Conference With Actual Conference Center
-[X] Host the conference in a purpose built facility on the island of SD, somewhat away from the actual city.
--[X] Do not bring the two new sets of Megaproject tools into use for the Tyrosh - SD Highway, instead use them to build a meeting facility and two manses to host your guests from Amun Kelisk and the Opaline Vault
--[X] Use your books (see last line of the vote) and ask Embra and House Adjar for input on the designs.
--[X] The main meeting room should incorporate all elements in its construction. Pilars of finely worked, yet natural looking stone, a few tasteful artificial waterfalls, the roof resting on pillars, leaving room for huge windows, decorations in finely carved wood and large braziers illuminating it all. The message here is the unity and balance between the elements.
--[X] The two manses should be opposite each other on a circular road enclosing the meeting facility. Leave enough room that it is obvious that you left space for a Fire and Water manse, to signify your commitment to hopefully host gatherings between all kinds of genies in a brighter future when there is peace between them again. Aim for quality here, but to not try to be too gaudy or ostentatious.
-[X] Invite a few people on your side:
--[X] The Creek-Caliph for Braavos.
--[X] Lady Uraka for the Iron Bank, specifically request her, just in case the higher ups think this above her pay-grade.
--[X] Inform House Adjar ahead of time, so that they might have a chance to attend on the Shaitan side. Being friends with us has a tendency to pay for you.
--[X] Doran Martell as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. If he aids us here to get everything in order, the planar markets are wide open for him.
--[X] Velen as one of our oldest friends and allies, as well as a benevolent representative of the Plane of Fire.
--[X] Breath-Taker as the representative of the nearby Tritons, the Merling King, and the Plane of Water.
--[X] Relath as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. The same as Doran. Play ball, gain a slice of the cake.
--[X] Meet with Yrael to talk about the future. Depending on the outcome of this discussion, maybe invite him to the conference.
--[X] Soft Strider as a representative of her people, and an ally against the coming darkness of the Others.
--[X] Bronze Yon as Lord sworn to Viserys and future LP of the Vale. If nothing else, he could spend some time with his daughter.
---[X] If he comes, brief Ysilla to not mention Azema. At all.
--[X] If Zherys has the time to attend and the Divinations to check on his truthfulness after the coup come up green, invite him too. He would be a junior partner in all of this, though Volantis can profit greatly from the deals we strike here.
--[X] Salladhor Saan as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. Remind him that these are the big leagues, so he should try to tone down his roguish charm.
---[X] Appraise him of the future of his raiding fleet. It is untenable to keep raiding in the Narrow Sea, for pickings are getting slimmer and political developments in the near future may or may not dry up completely. We have two options for him:
----[X] 1. He heads a military campaign to claim the Basilisk Isles for us. He renounces his claim on Port Sorrow or passes it on to another Saan and instead gets the whole Basilisk Isles. The islands are currently poor in anything but slaves and pirates, but we have grand plans for the area and Sothoryos. Furthermore, it puts his ship in reach of Ghiscary shipping lines.
----[X] 2. He strikes a side-deal with the genies and hire himself and his crews to them. They have sky-ships, not sea-ships, but we trust him to none the less have a very productive privateer career against the Efreeti.
--[X] Lords Brune and Velarion, due to being directly sworn to Viserys. While there are not many thinks they could gain from interacting with the genies, they shouldn't be left out and it is a good chance to rub elbows with the other people around.
-[X] Further attendants:
--[X] Malarys as legal aide to Viserys
--[X] Richard as Viserys bodyguard.
--[X] Maelor as Viserys gofer, so that he can learn something.
--[X] The rest of the companions will not be part of the actual meeting, but can freely chat with everyone attending as they please.
--[X] Put Rhealla and Lya in charge of accommodating the guests. Rhealla because she has experience in these things, Lya because she has the planar lore necessary to understand this particular batch.
-[X] Security
--[X] In addition to previously mentioned warding, run regular and spontaneous divination's to make sure there are no interruptions for this meeting. None. Incoming Divinations should clearly show that any attempts to interrupt, let alone attack this meeting will result in a fate worse then the torments of the pit for any who dared it. This includes our old friends the Lannisters. If they try to interrupt this, Casterly Rock will be nothing but a glass stain on a pile of rubble that was once a mountain.
-[X] Next Action:
--[X] Fetch Xor before returning to Oddo's. He might like to meet another apparently benevolent being who originated in the Far Realm.
--[X] Buy books as planned. Add a few volumes on Genie culture and architecture, primers on Genie laws and legal practices, and any tomes related to Dungeoneering, Nature, or War.
--[X] Attempt to purchase Call the Void, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Spell Enhancer, Scribe's Binding, and Wall of Eyes spell scrolls.
--[X] Buy a few common and inexpensive books.
--[X] Buy a book on cryptography.

Updated plan. Now including all @Goldfish got and an actual conference center instead of making the rulers of two planar empires camp in the muck.
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They might like the muck?

Seriously, though, another benefit of having the meeting outdoors is that we are symbolically showing how much priority we place on the Genies' continued freedom. The Djinni can simply fly away into the unobstructed sky, while the Shaitan can sink beneath the earth.
 
BeepSmile said:
Ewe. Still, as long as students aren't facing that
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They won't have to. We take a trusted mageling (Mia the Inquisitor for example), point her to exactly the right page for a certain spell, have her learn that spell, then abuse the Quills of Scribing to spread the spell among the Scholarum. This is a lot less dangerous than you're thinking.
 
Azel said:
@Goldfish, where do you plan to host the next meetings? My economic plans require regular meetings between representatives of the signatories to function.
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Dunno. Maybe a purpose built demiplane, maybe one of the Genies' palaces, maybe something like you propose. I'm not opposed to a conference center. It's mainly the mansions that make my brain hurt.

For the first meeting, however, I think we should showcase the Plane of Balance, not try to live up to the standards of immensely wealthy, immortal spirit beings who have existed since before Valyria was a twinkle in a Red Dragon's eye.
 
Goldfish said:
Dunno. Maybe a purpose built demiplane, maybe one of the Genies' palaces, maybe something like you propose. I'm not opposed to a conference center. It's mainly the mansions that make my brain hurt.

For the first meeting, however, I think we should showcase the Plane of Balance, not try to live up to the standards of immensely wealthy, immortal spirit beings who have existed since before Valyria was a twinkle in a Red Dragon's eye.
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Again, that's not what I'm aiming for. I want to build them the equivalent of a decent hotel room, not the Buckingham Palace.

If we have regular meetings, you need a place for them to keep their staff and attendants. Especially since this will drag on for a few days.
 
Azel said:
Again, that's not what I'm aiming for. I want to build them the equivalent of a decent hotel room, not the Buckingham Palace.

If we have regular meetings, you need a place for them to keep their staff and attendants. Especially since this will drag on for a few days.
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We can make a place for regular meetings after formal diplomatic relations have been established, and the Genies have had a chance to provide their input.

We can set a nice, safe scene for a first meeting without great expense or seeming overly presumptuous.

Assuming there will be frequent meetings on Planetos is also a gamble. The Genies may prefer to conduct most diplomatic meetings in their own Planes.
 
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...Wait a minute.
@Duesal, do you remember that time DP allowed Tor to be resurrected by a 9th-level spell due to it being made into a ritual?

I think we might, just might, make a Scribe's Binding into a ritual.
 
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egoo said:
...Wait a minute.
@Duesal, do you remember that time DP allowed Tor to be resurrected by a 9th-level spell due to it being made into a ritual?

I think we might, just might, make a Scribe's Binding into a ritual.
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We could, but that would require a study action. And you know full well how many study actions are competing for PC attention. It's much simpler to just buy the spell.
 
Duesal said:
We could, but that would require a study action. And you know full well how many study actions are competing for PC attention. It's much simpler to just buy the spell.
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Oh, but I rather meant make a ritual using the scroll. Either as a reagent, or just an example.
That would take far less time, don't you think?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Aug 3, 2018 at 8:07 PM, finished with 211736 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan Planar Conference With Actual Conference Center
    -[X] Host the conference in a purpose built facility on the island of SD, somewhat away from the actual city.
    --[X] Do not bring the two new sets of Megaproject tools into use for the Tyrosh - SD Highway, instead use them to build a meeting facility and two manses to host your guests from Amun Kelisk and the Opaline Vault
    --[X] Use your books (see last line of the vote) and ask Embra and House Adjar for input on the designs.
    --[X] The main meeting room should incorporate all elements in its construction. Pilars of finely worked, yet natural looking stone, a few tasteful artificial waterfalls, the roof resting on pillars, leaving room for huge windows, decorations in finely carved wood and large braziers illuminating it all. The message here is the unity and balance between the elements.
    --[X] The two manses should be opposite each other on a circular road enclosing the meeting facility. Leave enough room that it is obvious that you left space for a Fire and Water manse, to signify your commitment to hopefully host gatherings between all kinds of genies in a brighter future when there is peace between them again. Aim for quality here, but to not try to be too gaudy or ostentatious.
    -[X] Invite a few people on your side:
    --[X] The Creek-Caliph for Braavos.
    --[X] Lady Uraka for the Iron Bank, specifically request her, just in case the higher ups think this above her pay-grade.
    --[X] Inform House Adjar ahead of time, so that they might have a chance to attend on the Shaitan side. Being friends with us has a tendency to pay for you.
    --[X] Doran Martell as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. If he aids us here to get everything in order, the planar markets are wide open for him.
    --[X] Velen as one of our oldest friends and allies, as well as a benevolent representative of the Plane of Fire.
    --[X] Breath-Taker as the representative of the nearby Tritons, the Merling King, and the Plane of Water.
    --[X] Relath as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. The same as Doran. Play ball, gain a slice of the cake.
    --[X] Meet with Yrael to talk about the future. Depending on the outcome of this discussion, maybe invite him to the conference.
    --[X] Soft Strider as a representative of her people, and an ally against the coming darkness of the Others.
    --[X] Bronze Yon as Lord sworn to Viserys and future LP of the Vale. If nothing else, he could spend some time with his daughter.
    ---[X] If he comes, brief Ysilla to not mention Azema. At all.
    --[X] If Zherys has the time to attend and the Divinations to check on his truthfulness after the coup come up green, invite him too. He would be a junior partner in all of this, though Volantis can profit greatly from the deals we strike here.
    --[X] Salladhor Saan as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. Remind him that these are the big leagues, so he should try to tone down his roguish charm.
    ---[X] Appraise him of the future of his raiding fleet. It is untenable to keep raiding in the Narrow Sea, for pickings are getting slimmer and political developments in the near future may or may not dry up completely. We have two options for him:
    ----[X] 1. He heads a military campaign to claim the Basilisk Isles for us. He renounces his claim on Port Sorrow or passes it on to another Saan and instead gets the whole Basilisk Isles. The islands are currently poor in anything but slaves and pirates, but we have grand plans for the area and Sothoryos. Furthermore, it puts his ship in reach of Ghiscary shipping lines.
    ----[X] 2. He strikes a side-deal with the genies and hire himself and his crews to them. They have sky-ships, not sea-ships, but we trust him to none the less have a very productive privateer career against the Efreeti.
    --[X] Lords Brune and Velarion, due to being directly sworn to Viserys. While there are not many thinks they could gain from interacting with the genies, they shouldn't be left out and it is a good chance to rub elbows with the other people around.
    -[X] Further attendants:
    --[X] Malarys as legal aide to Viserys
    --[X] Richard as Viserys bodyguard.
    --[X] Maelor as Viserys gofer, so that he can learn something.
    --[X] The rest of the companions will not be part of the actual meeting, but can freely chat with everyone attending as they please.
    --[X] Put Rhealla and Lya in charge of accommodating the guests. Rhealla because she has experience in these things, Lya because she has the planar lore necessary to understand this particular batch.
    -[X] Security
    --[X] In addition to previously mentioned warding, run regular and spontaneous divination's to make sure there are no interruptions for this meeting. None. Incoming Divinations should clearly show that any attempts to interrupt, let alone attack this meeting will result in a fate worse then the torments of the pit for any who dared it. This includes our old friends the Lannisters. If they try to interrupt this, Casterly Rock will be nothing but a glass stain on a pile of rubble that was once a mountain.
    -[X] Next Action:
    --[X] Fetch Xor before returning to Oddo's. He might like to meet another apparently benevolent being who originated in the Far Realm.
    --[X] Buy books as planned. Add a few volumes on Genie culture and architecture, primers on Genie laws and legal practices, and any tomes related to Dungeoneering, Nature, or War.
    --[X] Attempt to purchase Call the Void, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Spell Enhancer, Scribe's Binding, and Wall of Eyes spell scrolls.
    --[X] Buy a few common and inexpensive books.
    --[X] Buy a book on cryptography.
    [X] Plan Planar Conference Mk II
    -[X] The conference will be hosted in a location on the island of Sorcerer's Deep selected for its natural beauty, preferably with Narrow Sea in view. If not already home to bountiful plant life, steps will be taken by our Druid Treants and Leshy, Vee, and Viserys if necessary, to turn the area into a close approximation of a botanical paradise.
    --[X] The designated meeting area will be warded with a Forbiddance spell cast by Dany while affected by Lya's Harmonic Chorus and Moment of Greatness spells in order to boost her caster level to 17th level. A password will be added to the effect in order to allow the genie and other attendants safe passage into the Forbiddance area without harm. Dany will also use her Half-Celestial form's Hallow spell like ability to ward the area, tying a Freedom of Movement spell to it as both a precaution and a promise that we would never seek to bind our Genie allies.
    --[X] Lya will place a Mage's Private Sanctum spell over the area, along with layered Refusal spells, also password coded to allow the Genie's unfettered access. Tyene will add her own False Vision spells to the meeting site to further obscure the location from any attempted Scrying.
    ---[X] The meeting site itself will be located out in the open in an area constructed to conform to a mix of observed Djinni and Shaitan aesthetics, and using any insights gained from books and other lore pertaining to Genie construction practices.
    ----[X] The weather will be perfect on the day of the meeting, even if Dany or Malarys need to prepare and cast multiple Control Weather spells.
    ----[X] Each delegation of Genies will be provided with extraplanar accommodations created by Lya's Magnificent Mansion spells, with internal dimensions and layout tailored specifically to their desires. This not only provides the most comfortable possible lodging for the Genies, but adds an additional layer of security which cannot be easily bypassed.
    -[X] Invite a few people on your side:
    --[X] The Creek-Caliph for Braavos.
    --[X] Lady Uraka for the Iron Bank, specifically request her, just in case the higher ups think this above her pay-grade.
    --[X] Inform House Adjar ahead of time, so that they might have a chance to attend on the Shaitan side. Being friends with us has a tendency to pay for you.
    --[X] Doran Martell as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. If he aids us here to get everything in order, the planar markets are wide open for him.
    --[X] Velen as one of our oldest friends and allies, as well as a benevolent representative of the Plane of Fire.
    --[X] Breath-Taker as the representative of the nearby Tritons, the Merling King, and the Plane of Water.
    --[X] Relath as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. The same as Doran. Play ball, gain a slice of the cake.
    --[X] Yrael as a representative of the Archons of Mantarys, the first city we freed from Demonic rule.
    --[X] Soft Strider as a representative of her people, and an ally against the coming darkness of the Others.
    --[X] Bronze Yon as Lord sworn to Viserys and future LP of the Vale. If nothing else, he could spend some time with his daughter.
    ---[X] If he comes, brief Ysilla to not mention Azema. At all.
    --[X] If Zherys has the time to attend and the Divinations to check on his truthfulness after the coup come up green, invite him too. He would be a junior partner in all of this, though Volantis can profit greatly from the deals we strike here.
    --[X] Salladhor Saan as a Lord directly sworn to Viserys. Remind him that these are the big leagues, so he should try to tone down his roguish charm.
    ---[X] Appraise him of the future of his raiding fleet. It is untenable to keep raiding in the Narrow Sea, for pickings are getting slimmer and political developments in the near future may or may not dry up completely. We have two options for him:
    ----[X] 1. He heads a military campaign to claim the Basilisk Isles for us. He renounces his claim on Port Sorrow or passes it on to another Saan and instead gets the whole Basilisk Isles. The islands are currently poor in anything but slaves and pirates, but we have grand plans for the area and Sothoryos. Furthermore, it puts his ship in reach of Ghiscary shipping lines.
    ----[X] 2. He strikes a side-deal with the genies and hire himself and his crews to them. They have sky-ships, not sea-ships, but we trust him to none the less have a very productive privateer career against the Efreeti.
    --[X] Lords Brune and Velarion, due to being directly sworn to Viserys. While there are not many thinks they could gain from interacting with the genies, they shouldn't be left out and it is a good chance to rub elbows with the other people around.
    -[X] Further attendants:
    --[X] Malarys as legal aide to Viserys
    --[X] Richard as Viserys bodyguard.
    --[X] Maelor as Viserys gofer, so that he can learn something.
    --[X] The rest of the companions will not be part of the actual meeting, but can freely chat with everyone attending as they please.
    --[X] Put Rhealla and Lya in charge of accommodating the guests. Rhealla because she has experience in these things, Lya because she has the planar lore necessary to understand this particular batch.
    -[X] Security
    --[X] In addition to previously mentioned warding, run regular and spontaneous divination's to make sure there are no interruptions for this meeting. None. Incoming Divinations should clearly show that any attempts to interrupt, let alone attack this meeting will result in a fate worse then the torments of the pit for any who dared it. This includes our old friends the Lannisters. If they try to interrupt this, Casterly Rock will be nothing but a glass stain on a pile of rubble that was once a mountain.
    -[X] Next Action:
    --[X] Fetch Xor before returning to Oddo's. He might like to meet another apparently benevolent being who originated in the Far Realm.
    --[X] Buy books as planned. Add a few volumes on Genie culture and architecture, primers on Genie laws and legal practices, and any tomes related to Dungeoneering, Nature, or War.
    ---[X] Buy common and inexpensive books
    ---[X] Buy a book on cryptography.
    --[X] Attempt to purchase Call the Void, Psychic Asylum, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Spell Enhancer, Scribe's Binding, and Wall of Eyes spell scrolls.
    -[X] 2. He strikes a side-deal with the genies and hire himself and his crews to them. They have sky-ships, not sea-ships, but we trust him to none the less have a very productive privateer career against the Efreeti
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On the one hand, the embassies seem a little gauche to me and I think Goldfish's approach is more elegant in its simplicity. On the other hand, if Azel thinks we'd need them going foward for whatever financial devilry he has planned, then it's best to get them out of the way

[X] Azel
 
[X] Azel
Ah, the council of Viserys.
I fully expect representatives of other major players to "accidentally" arrive on the same day.
Maybe ned stark will be there?

 
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