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I propose that instead of doing Spectroscopy first and relying on drips to fill up Electromagnetism, we do the reverse: we research Electromagnetism while letting drips fill up Spectroscopy.

Electromagnetism is really important. There's a lot of physics (and chemistry) stuff that's gated behind a proper understanding of what electricity is and isn't, and there is a lot of very important infrastructure tech locked behind practical electricity. And I'm willing to bet that part of the reason Hiding in the Rainbow is [Stalled] is because we don't know what we're dealing with– that is, we don't really know that light is electromagnetic radiation.

I think the practical applications will drag our other relevant techs forward, which is the same reason I'm voting for the steamships.
What practical applications were you thinking of?
 
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I believe that AN said that science has more to thank steam engines than the inverse.
 
I propose that instead of doing Spectroscopy first and relying on drips to fill up Electromagnetism, we do the reverse: we research Electromagnetism while letting drips fill up Spectroscopy.

Electromagnetism is really important. There's a lot of physics (and chemistry) stuff that's gated behind a proper understanding of what electricity is and isn't, and there is a lot of very important infrastructure tech locked behind practical electricity. And I'm willing to bet that part of the reason Hiding in the Rainbow is [Stalled] is because we don't know what we're dealing with– that is, we don't really know that light is electromagnetic radiation.


What practical applications were you thinking of?

Rare tech doesn't appear all that frequently. It's a missed opportunity if we decline it.

Plus, it is likely we will get electromagnetism drip from this project.
 
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Discord chatter on the Stealth Suez Canal:
Academia Nut said:
Hmmm... you could start a Suez with Cheap Iron, but it is much, much, much easier with Cheap Steel and Nitro Explosives

See, once you make the move to start it, you will be signalling to the rest of the world you intent, which will likely bring a response

So you will probably want your ducks in a row first, as a warning
Xon said:
@Academia Nut could we rope in Kielmyr for the cheap steel part?
Academia Nut said:
Hmmm... two DOs with that intent could work

Every naval power would jump to either be in on this or stop you

The big thing is that you are likely going to need multiple turns to get this done with other things drawing attention, so you really want your ducks in a row on this one
Xon said:
@Academia Nut so a DO to build a railroad right along where the not!seuz canal would be possible right without giving away what we are planning?(edited)
Academia Nut said:
Yes, that would be possible
HanEmpire said:
@Academia Nut how is the Khemetri Infrastructure these days? Would they be receptive to us setting up a joint-CrownCorporation for Khemetri Interior Development?
Academia Nut said:

-Create innocuous construction company in Khemetri
-Build DM-Khemetri Railroad
-Get Industrial Techs
-Quietly invite Kielmyr Government
-Rush-build Suez Canal
-Thrust hips at the Sketch
-SUCCESS
 
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-Create innocuous construction company in Khemetri
-Build DM-Khemetri Railroad
-Get Industrial Techs
-Quietly invite Kielmyr Government
-Rush-build Suez Canal
-SUCCESS
You forgot the bit after the "Rush-build Suez Canal", Sketch freaks the fucks out and does anything they can to kill this.

You forgot World War 0.9b, somewhere in between taunting the Sketch and success.
Damnit , you beat me to it!
 
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One atom can emit multiple colors based on the different places electrons can end up. The more electron orbits, the more complex color set.

The specific pattern is VERY unique to each elemement though, and you can tease apart what elements are in something by ionizing it and splitting all the colors out to look at individually.

It also leads to it's reverse - solar power. When messing about with spectography one can notice that some metals give off voltage when exposed to intense light
Huh. And that would fit into the next step of wave-particle duality then (via gold-leaf foil experiment), when voltages can only be created by certain minimum frequencies of light, no matter how intense a lower frequency/bigger wavelength (same thing) light is (in lumens), if a individual photon carries insufficient energy you ain't gonna get a voltage.
Except for a tinyyyyyyy bit as the metal melts as those photons you are dumping in heat it up, provided you dump in enough photons). I know I,m being pedantic, but one big thing of gold-leaf was that it showed that light intensity is not relevant for energising electrons/raising electrons to highter energy levels, but the individual photon's frequency (or wavelength) is the deciding factor). Unless you take intensity to mean frequency instead of lumens. Which I would find very odd.

Waittttt, so what happens if you run carbon 6 atom through a spectrometer and compared it to... That thing that has 5 protons, but if it had six electrons?
Or would the extra electron fly off? In that case, what if you energised a 7 proton ion that had six electrons? Would it make the same pattern as carbon 6 atom, or would the possible energy levels of the electons be different, causing a different pattern?

Edit: the more I think on it, I want electromagnetic theory instead of Spectroscopy, provided we can still pick up Spectroscopy straight after. Can we loose access to rare techs? Considering the rare tech was opened by our focus on optics and light, I don't see it becoming unavailable at any point. (discounting complete social collapse).
I wonder what Spectroscopy will say about metagreen.

Probably nothing, as Spectroscopy utilises Base matter rather than soul stuff. I would expect it to look green to any measuring techniques.

Hmm.
 
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I wonder if there can be lesser rail "mega-project"

The Saffron Crescent. A rail line from Kialmer to Khemtry through the DC. A big backwards C straight through our heartlands connecting two continents and three nations.
 
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Need cheap steel and steel railroads :(
We should get those ASAP. Perhaps DO thr Kielmir to turn the idea into a joint project so we get tech drips.

They have the tech. We have the land and Labour. The Khem have a ripe market full of stuff Kielmar wants cheep.

We DO the Khem at the same time to get them to help fund it. One big tripple civ project to warm up for the canal.

It will make it MUCH cheaper and safer to get Kielmar steel down to Suez without sketch interference.
 
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If we ever want to build the Suez Canal, which we really really do, we need to keep our navy relevant.

Also, holy shit. The Syffrin nations are going to wake up after this crisis, look at our science and say 'Where the fuck did that come from?'.

We went from average level education and behind the curve on science to the most advanced land army tech, catching up on sea, super advanced on financial and medical science as well as getting a higher education and innovation score than most countries now.
 
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If we ever want to build the Suez Canal, which we really really do, we need to keep our navy relevant.

Also, holy shit. The Syffrin nations are going to wake up after this crisis, look at our science and say 'Where the fuck did that come from?'.

We went from average level education and behind the curve on science to the most advanced land army tech, catching up on sea, super advanced on financial and medical science as well as getting a higher education and innovation score than most countries now.

They will go "Ohhhhh... That is what happens when you stop clubbing people who say things you don't like."
 
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Don't let language die!
 
Darwin will discover evolution not by looking at islands but by comparing detailed pictures drawn of species as they changed ovee thousands of years cross referenced with weather records for those thousands of years.

Because our archology will be more of people opening our basements and actually reading the books we got left from our greatgrandparents grandparents.
 
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