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@Artemis1992 Offer up a big enough sacrifice to get her levels converted by the OG? 

In a heartbeat.@Artemis1992 Offer up a big enough sacrifice to get her levels converted by the OG?![]()
Weather – d20PFSRDMind, this doesn't even take into account things like "does this spell produce air, or does it just move it along?" and "does it allow for "recoil" inside its own length if it meets resistance in the other end?" and "how does the forces involved look like if it does?" and "by how much would the spell accelerate water going through it?" and many others.
There is a lot going on in this set up.
Now, is this the spell? How did you get the speed from that?
This particular spell seems very hard to translate to RL physics due the fact that any creature that fails their save (and just here the problem starts) gets pushed the same amount, 20ft, regardless of size and weight. So, they get pushed 20ft, but how long does that take? Does the spell exert different forces for differently-sized creatures? What happens when you fill the entire flow with water? Does the spell even work?
Hell, creature with a particular type of soul aren't affected.
Assuming you are propelling wind at ~36 m/s, that's ~72kg/s of wind.
Because that needs sails and the idea was to get a vessel that doesn't need any, so that we can use it for a submarine.Why not shoot for something like a constant Favorable Winds spell?
Yeah, that's a chair that makes people cry tears of blood.
Or creates a non-flammable type of greaseBut I honestly agree with TNE's wariness on trying to equate spell effects with physical effects. One of the examples I can think of is Grease, which explicitly is not flammable. So despite the spell name and material component, it doesn't seem to actually create a physical material but just makes a surface slippery as if you had applied butter all over it.
There are plenty of non-flammable lubricants. Just saying.*peaks into thread*
*sees fluid calcs happening*
So uhh does anyone want to grab a Nobel Prize by figuring out how to solve the Navier-Stokes equation without negating like half of the variables?
But I honestly agree with TNE's wariness on trying to equate spell effects with physical effects. One of the examples I can think of is Grease, which explicitly is not flammable. So despite the spell name and material component, it doesn't seem to actually create a physical material but just makes a surface slippery as if you had applied butter all over it.
I'm with Artemis on this one. If there's a way to convert her to Druid then we should pounce on it. We spend forever shuffling our feet before we realized that Reva and Liset were even options for druids, and now with Soft Strider we could immediately get a CL 6 druid if we work a bit at it.Ranger is cruelty to inflict tho. No way we can get Theon to teach her to clange to Myistic Ranger?
Theon Greyjoy! He's so awesome he teaches the children of the forest!
Come on! You can't tell me you don't wanna see that happen?
The spell can also throw around creatures weighing significantly more then 77 kg.@Azel Ignoring the metaphysical aspects of the spell, you are proposing something that moves ~77 kg in a second of air will be able to move 63000 kg of water in the same second.
I'm with Artemis on this one. If there's a way to convert her to Druid then we should pounce on it. We spend forever shuffling our feet before we realized that Reva and Liset were even options for druids, and now with Soft Strider we could immediately get a CL 6 druid if we work a bit at it.
@Artemis1992, we have the names of all the Thanadaemons. We can talk to Soft Strider, see if she's interested in the class change, then bleed on our Planar Binding tree to get Bloodraven's attention to get him on board. It'd definitely be worth the sacrifices.
That said, I'm not quite sure how weapon proficiency works with druids.
Druids can use a specific group of druidic weapons from the start, for others they have to buy the proficiency feats, or in our case train them.I'm with Artemis on this one. If there's a way to convert her to Druid then we should pounce on it. We spend forever shuffling our feet before we realized that Reva and Liset were even options for druids, and now with Soft Strider we could immediately get a CL 6 druid if we work a bit at it.
@Artemis1992, we have the names of all the Thanadaemons. We can talk to Soft Strider, see if she's interested in the class change, then bleed on our Planar Binding tree to get Bloodraven's attention to get him on board. It'd definitely be worth the sacrifices.
That said, I'm not quite sure how weapon proficiency works with druids.
We're not going to have an issue with metal stuff to begin with, Children of the Forest have a racial taboo against all metal. It's why we had to set aside the Bloodstone Amulet of PfE for Soft Strider -- all other Amulets of PfE are fluffed with using silver, whereas this one was just stone. Either way, she has dibs on the next dragonhide armor we get our claws on.Druids can use a specific group of druidic weapons from the start, for others they have to buy the proficiency feats, or in our case train them.
Metallic stuff causes issues with their magic, or maybe that was onpy for armor, but bows aren't metal so no problem.
She will loose several of her shooting-feats if she switches class, because they come from her Ranger fighting style.We're not going to have an issue with metal stuff to begin with, Children of the Forest have a racial taboo against all metal. It's why we had to set aside the Bloodstone Amulet of PfE for Soft Strider -- all other Amulets of PfE are fluffed with using silver, whereas this one was just stone. Either way, she has dibs on the next dragonhide armor we get our claws on.
As for weapons, well, she has weapon-focus feats for her longbow. She might be able to keep those if she decides to switch.
Huh. Welp. I guess it comes down to her choice on the matter then. No point in planning if she decides she wants to stay a ranger.She will loose several of her shooting-feats if she switches class, because they come from her Ranger fighting style.
I can't say which from the phone.
We're not going to have an issue with metal stuff to begin with, Children of the Forest have a racial taboo against all metal. It's why we had to set aside the Bloodstone Amulet of PfE for Soft Strider -- all other Amulets of PfE are fluffed with using silver, whereas this one was just stone. Either way, she has dibs on the next dragonhide armor we get our claws on.
As for weapons, well, she has weapon-focus feats for her longbow. She might be able to keep those if she decides to switch.
Okay, looking more closely, that was a spell rather than a material.
@Azel Ignoring the metaphysical aspects of the spell, you are proposing something that moves ~77 kg of air in a second be able to move 63000 kg of water in the same second.
Yeah, that's a chair that makes people cry tears of blood.
Or creates a non-flammable type of grease![]()
Hmm, maybe we should just tell her about our plans to ruin her guild, after all?
Right, I forgot about our general rule with women Viserys finds attractive.
Because the entire point of this whole thing is to play along with the magisters' demands. Calm the goats even while leading them to slaughter. They want us to sail to them? Fine. We'll act like we did. Having them realize that we just showed up out of thin air will spook them, hence keeping the ship at port as our pretense for our way back home.edit: Wait, didn't we send prop!ship back home already? Also, why bother with getting picked up?