Closer is a relative term, and if there's no upside to using your own blood why the bloody hell is Viserys still in a HP defecit?
We can get our HP back... if we destroy Oathkeeper.
You did, but dragon bonding was a secret of his order and one around which some rather nasty rumors floated. so far he has not written anything about that specifically.
What about the details of the restrictions of the artificer ritual, and the exact amounts of the warrior path?
Why on earth did you use your own blood? That's what slaves and fiends are for!"
In fact, I belive this exact phrase was used back then.
It would be neat to start a trend of everyone with the means carrying a little coin pouch around their neck with one of each coin just for that purpose, to carry a piece of the empire with them wherever they go.
Here's an idea: the coins, put together, spell out "FOREVER" or "EMPIRE" in high valyrian. Possibly both, maybe depending on the side it's on?
 
The lens doesn't need to be very large.

And I've never been a fan of putting people's profiles on coins. Instead, we should have art; landscapes, scenes of battle, fantastical creatures frolicking about, etc. And one side of each coin could be devoted to a tiny etched copy of the constitution. We could make it so that if you lined up a coin of each denomination in the proper order, you would have your own copy of the Imperial Constitution. It would be neat to start a trend of everyone with the means carrying a little coin patch around their neck with one of each coin just for that purpose, to carry a piece of the empire with them wherever they go.

It's just something I think would be cool. Hardly a deal breaker, though, so I won't argue too strongly for the concept to be pushed through.
@Diomedon raised a good point there, that embossing Viserys face on coinage is a good source of legitimacy for our rule, since everyone else is doing the same.

In regards to art, I'm with you, hence the backside of each coin in my proposal being reserved for artistic scenes. We could also mint shillings that depict various people living in the Empire in addition to the trade themed ones. The reason I've put a denomination on the face side is that the backside has more leeway and that we can have different designs for the same coin.

The idea with the constitution is pretty great though. Maybe a large batch of commemorative coins to be released next year on the anniversary of the SD conquest? Print the main articles on the back of a Gold Dragon and the sub-clauses on Silver Cities and Silver Legions. Then you can indeed assemble the whole constitution from your money and it's still large enough to be easily read.
 
@Diomedon raised a good point there, that embossing Viserys face on coinage is a good source of legitimacy for our rule, since everyone else is doing the same.

In regards to art, I'm with you, hence the backside of each coin in my proposal being reserved for artistic scenes. We could also mint shillings that depict various people living in the Empire in addition to the trade themed ones. The reason I've put a denomination on the face side is that the backside has more leeway and that we can have different designs for the same coin.

The idea with the constitution is pretty great though. Maybe a large batch of commemorative coins to be released next year on the anniversary of the SD conquest? Print the main articles on the back of a Gold Dragon and the sub-clauses on Silver Cities and Silver Legions. Then you can indeed assemble the whole constitution from your money and it's still large enough to be easily read.

What about Fabricating Viserys' image into the center of each lens? That's tricky to do today and requires specialized laser engraving equipment, and it's even more difficult to do well. Having an image set within the glass of each coin would be a blatant use of magic, but the final product would be completely non-magical.

 
I am wary of sacrificing blood, sure, thats how the valyrians did it, but its not like their dragons were easily controllable creature who totally didnt eat children given a chance.
Maybe we can find an alternative? giving it pure magic, or an item, or a ritual, anything else really.
 
I am wary of sacrificing blood, sure, thats how the valyrians did it, but its not like their dragons were easily controllable creature who totally didnt eat children given a chance.
Maybe we can find an alternative? giving it pure magic, or an item, or a ritual, anything else really.
It's not going to be a problem, because we have this:
The vote you're talking about was for her to attempt to bond to the dragon as if it were an Animal Companion by sacrificing the 6th level Magus Arcana she would normally learn. Considering that there is a Magus Arcana that lets one acquire a Familiar, it shoudn't be a stretch to have one for an Animal Companion. And @DragonParadox didn't veto that when it went through, so I'm assuming he's going to allow it.
Blood Sacrifice is downright natural when it comes to hatching a Valyrian Dragon, and even if you were worried about making the dragon too bloodthirsty, Goldfish's scheme largely negates those fears. Valaena is not going to have a problem with her dragon no matter how many sacrifices we use here.

EDIT: Also, the Valyrian dragonlords of old prided themselves on controlling their dragons. There's really little point to blood sacrifice for dragon taming if it doesn't even work. We can safely assume it did its job since they ended up refining it to the point of art.
 
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I am wary of sacrificing blood, sure, thats how the valyrians did it, but its not like their dragons were easily controllable creature who totally didnt eat children given a chance.
Maybe we can find an alternative? giving it pure magic, or an item, or a ritual, anything else really.
That's true. They also gave them food and water so let's avoid doing that too!

Seriously though, just because they were done this way doesn't mean it caused the animals temperament. It's more likely just a remnant of the CE alignment from true Reds. We also have things mechanically in place already so I'm not worried about it especially as small as it'll be.
 
My only issue is I'm sure the path of the priest ended up with a far more reliable dragon. But goldfish did found a way to make that soooo....

Give her a knife and tell her to speak with Malarys :V

[X] Duesal
 
This was vetoed by DP. We asked about this, and the answer was that Varys was close enough to Viserys that she turned from an Awakened Snake to a Pseudodragon. Oathkeeper apparently wasn't close enough to Viserys to benefit, despite being forged in his blood.

Not using your own blood is perfectly normal. It was the standard in the Freehold. There's a reason Malarys was giving us strange looks when he saw Oathkeeper. "Why on earth did you use your own blood? That's what slaves and fiends are for!"

Common in the Freehold =/= Not having downsides.

Quite the opposite.

As for breaking Oathkeeper to get our HP back, once again I feel like we're being held hostage by our commitment to worldbuilding and remaining IC.

If we wanted to Munchkin then breaking Oathkeeper is the way to go but because we hold narrative value as equal or superior to the numerical, we can't have nice things.
 
Common in the Freehold =/= Not having downsides.

Quite the opposite.
I'm just unwilling to have Valaena use her own blood for this. We have a damn good setup already with the Animal Companion that Goldfish thought up, there's no need to go beyond that and make Valaena pay for it. Why have her suffer an HP drain when we already have what we want, and when we have cultists lined up so we can use their blood instead?
As for breaking Oathkeeper to get our HP back, once again I feel like we're being held hostage by our commitment to worldbuilding and remaining IC.

If we wanted to Munchkin then breaking Oathkeeper is the way to go but because we hold narrative value as equal or superior to the numerical, we can't have nice things.
Eh. Once I was a bit salty about that (way back when Oathkeeper was forged), but now I'm not mad anymore. That sword has proven its worth ten times over, more than worth the payment of 15 HP. If we really want to, when we hit the epic levels we can draw up a ritual with Lya to improve Oathkeeper further.
 
I'm just unwilling to have Valaena use her own blood for this. We have a damn good setup already with the Animal Companion that Goldfish thought up, there's no need to go beyond that and make Valaena pay for it. Why have her suffer an HP drain when we already have what we want, and when we have cultists lined up so we can use their blood instead?

Eh. Once I was a bit salty about that (way back when Oathkeeper was forged), but now I'm not mad anymore. That sword has proven its worth ten times over, more than worth the payment of 15 HP. If we really want to, when we hit the epic levels we can draw up a ritual with Lya to improve Oathkeeper further.

It's boring and nonsensical, the effect could have had no impact whatsoever on its ability in battle and I would have jumped for Joy but even the fluff screws us over when that's the very reason we haven't scrapped the bloody thing.

Anyway, I can be depressed at work about actual work stuff so I'll do that I guess.
 
It's boring and nonsensical, the effect could have had no impact whatsoever on its ability in battle and I would have jumped for Joy but even the fluff screws us over when that's the very reason we haven't scrapped the bloody thing.

Anyway, I can be depressed at work about actual work stuff so I'll do that I guess.
You live and you learn, I guess. I wasn't happy about the HP drain either, and if we had sacrifices on hand back then I would have definitely pushed for using them instead. But unfortunately, this was in the era before the quest was fully on the blood sacrifice wagon. Not only that, but at those low levels capturing sacrifices at all was a hassle.
 
When we sacrifice creatures to empower a Heart Tree, how much of their physical remains are left behind? I know there have been times when they were reduced to bone, or simply ceased to be, but is that universal?

Because if it isn't, we could have quite the larder ready and waiting for the young Valyrian Dragon.
 
Random thought, but when Valaena hits level 7 I want to see if we can teach her the Day of Blood ritual so that if she ever needs to she can grow a Heart Tree on the spot (provided she has the sapling and the sacrifices) without needing to call us for it. I'd love it if she was adventuring somewhere in near Mantarys for example, captured a bunch of monsters, and lo and behold, there's a weirwood tree in the nearby allied city. Wouldn't they like a new tree?
When we sacrifice creatures to empower a Heart Tree, how much of their physical remains are left behind? I know there have been times when they were reduced to bone, or simply ceased to be, but is that universal?

Because if it isn't, we could have quite the larder ready and waiting for the young Valyrian Dragon.
For normal things, the bone gets left behind. For outsiders they end up dissolving unless the Old Gods want to give us a gift.
 
That's true. They also gave them food and water so let's avoid doing that too!

Seriously though, just because they were done this way doesn't mean it caused the animals temperament. It's more likely just a remnant of the CE alignment from true Reds. We also have things mechanically in place already so I'm not worried about it especially as small as it'll be.
Duesal already convinced me its not going to be a problem, but my reasoning was the dragons are likely put together in such a way that they cannot be born on their own, either as a control mechanism or because the draconic spirit refuses to be born into such a body.
The Blood sacrifice its basically jumpstarting the body by tempting the draconic soul with the blood and fire, leaving an imprint strong enough that the body can now function, but Also activating the instincts of the red without its intelligence.
So if we could find a different solution, its nature might end up closer to that of any other beasts, and thus more easily controlable.
 
Duesal already convinced me its not going to be a problem, but my reasoning was the dragons are likely put together in such a way that they cannot be born on their own, either as a control mechanism or because the draconic spirit refuses to be born into such a body.
The Blood sacrifice its basically jumpstarting the body by tempting the draconic soul with the blood and fire, leaving an imprint strong enough that the body can now function, but Also activating the instincts of the red without its intelligence.
So if we could find a different solution, its nature might end up closer to that of any other beasts, and thus more easily controlable.
There's really no way to have a dragon and not have dragon instincts in some fashion. There's always going to be a need to keep it under control. Goldfish's scheme mostly has that taken care of, but Valaena's still going to have her work cut out for her.

On a different note, Dragonstone action next turn since we're not going to Sothoryos! Campaigning in earnest for it now!

Benefits:

1. Destroy Rhaella's bones so they can never be used against her.
2. Pseudodragon population! Mate for Varys? Diplomancing the entire population?
3. Scouring the island for Valyrian Dragon Eggs, there have to be some that the goddamn Lannisters haven't found.
4. Dealing with whatever Lannisters are lurking there.
5. Walking among the dragonseeds. Pick up rumors, look for interesting people and possibly loot them.
6. Check up on Selyse Florent and Shireen Baratheon, even if it has to be discreetly.

But it's mainly number 3 that I'm after. It's high time the royalty (and Malarys) got their dragons.
 
There's really no way to have a dragon and not have dragon instincts in some fashion. There's always going to be a need to keep it under control. Goldfish's scheme mostly has that taken care of, but Valaena's still going to have her work cut out for her.

One ability gained upon bonding to an Animal Companion is Link.
Link(Ex); A druid can handle her animal companion as a free action, or push it as a move action, even if she doesn't have any ranks in the Handle Animal skill. The druid gains a +4 circumstance bonus on all wild empathy checks and Handle Animal checks made regarding an animal companion.
Just ignore mentions of Wild Empathy. Vaelana already has a +4 Handle Animal bonus, and we can at least double that next level up, which may be very soon depending on how much XP she got in the invasion. Add the +4 bonus from Link and she could have a +12 Handle Animal bonus quite soon.

And she's got her Dragonbone Amulet to use as well;
Dragonbone Amulet


Description: This worn but still recognizable carving of a dragon marks the center of and ancient talisman surrounded by a patterns of scales. Unnaturally light to any hand that bears it, just as all dagonbone is, an heir of Valyrian's blood might also feel the hint of flame within it.

Abilities:
  1. Fire resistance 10.
  2. Three times per day the bearer may re-roll a handle animal check relating to a creature with the dragon type.
Caster Level: 5
Taking all of that into account, she'll be ready from the moment the Valyrian Dragon hatches to begin training it.
 
I am wary of sacrificing blood, sure, thats how the valyrians did it, but its not like their dragons were easily controllable creature who totally didnt eat children given a chance.
Maybe we can find an alternative? giving it pure magic, or an item, or a ritual, anything else really.
They didn't when they were bound.
Blood Sacrifice is downright natural when it comes to hatching a Valyrian Dragon, and even if you were worried about making the dragon too bloodthirsty, Goldfish's scheme largely negates those fears. Valaena is not going to have a problem with her dragon no matter how many sacrifices we use here.
Reminder that it has not, in fact, been approved.

Even if PF Feral is a really weak template, a Red Dragon is still way beyond most animal companions. Not to mention it boosts the dragon too.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had to pay another two feats or so to get that.
Random thought, but when Valaena hits level 7 I want to see if we can teach her the Day of Blood ritual so that if she ever needs to she can grow a Heart Tree on the spot (provided she has the sapling and the sacrifices) without needing to call us for it. I'd love it if she was adventuring somewhere in near Mantarys for example, captured a bunch of monsters, and lo and behold, there's a weirwood tree in the nearby allied city. Wouldn't they like a new tree?
She has nowhere near the skill ranks needed to not turn herself into a tree.

Viserys only barely managed due Draconic Knowledge.
 
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