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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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How about giving Honors to the whole Legion? Make Legio I the "Daemonkillers." "Chain Breakers." Etc.

If the Legion gets a list of titles like canon Dany who would dare face them in the field?:V
 
Goldfish said:
That was before the financial system got a huge overhaul, thanks to @Azel. We are going to start having a significantly higher income next turn, due in part to Tyrosh and from our raiding effort moving away from merely capturing slaver vessels, to enforcing the Stepstones toll. Plus our business ventures are going to start paying dividends in a major way.
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I'm against it. Not only should we not be spending this many spellslots here, especially when there's diseases to purge in Tyrosh, but you're proposing to do random reincarnation? Yeah, consider me firmly against this scheme.
 
Excellent, I really do want the Legion to become something every Legionairre can rightfully be Proud of, we've made them deadly effective on the field of battle but I want them to be able to shut down any verbal sparring too.

The Mountain and The Mountain's Men are frightfully efficient killers but are also sneered at, mockingly called dogs etc.

Also I may or may not be holding out hope for an interlude where a Westerosi gets a bit too mouthy about honour in front of the wrong veteran.
 
Duesal said:
I'm against it. Not only should we not be spending this many spellslots here, especially when there's diseases to purge in Tyrosh, but you're proposing to do random reincarnation? Yeah, consider me firmly against this scheme.
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Eh, just a thought.

Like I said, though, living is better than dead, even if you're a Kobold instead of a Human. You could even luck out and come back as an Elf.
 
@Deliste The funny part is any encounter in Westeros between lunk-headed "I've got more honors than you!" people are always individual spats, because it's always about individual honor there.

If someone tried picking a fight with a random Legionnaire, nine more would stand up nearby and walk over.
 
Goldfish said:
Eh, just a thought.

Like I said, though, living is better than dead, even if you're a Kobold instead of a Human. You could even luck out and come back as an Elf.
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Or, more likely, you could not luck out and end up a Goblin, Bugbear, etc. I'm sure they'd be super grateful.

This is not a gamble we should do on anyone we give a damn about.
 
You know that we are able to keep a damned lot of people in Gentle Repose stasis ad use Blood Wish to make them all human with due time, right?
 
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The crazy demon said:
How about giving Honors to the whole Legion? Make Legio I the "Daemonkillers." "Chain Breakers." Etc.

If the Legion gets a list of titles like canon Dany who would dare face them in the field?:V
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Eventually after we complete our conquest, they get themed names based on assignment, like SCP Mobile Task Forces. Illithid-fighters are the "Skin Divers", devil hunters are "Forgemasters" etc, etc
 
Unless we think we'll be able to afford Reincarnating every legionnaire that dies in combat in the future (and needless to say, they need to be reincarnated as humans) we definitely shouldn't start Reincarnating them now. We can always start the practice later when we can tank the costs, but once we start it we can't drop it or morale will dive.

So yeah, give it some good thought, not only to the costs from this fight but the ones from the next fight, and the one after that. This would be an awesome thing to do, but not without consequences.
 
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@Goldfish, @TotallyNotEvil, we are sure as fuck not letting Amrelath cause PR problems by taking these things for a spin and neither will he get a single bent copper for stopping his bad behaviour.

This is the same nonsense as with Relath. I'm fine with rewarding good behaviour, but we most certainly don't want to offer incentives to use something worthless to cause us problems, under the expectation that we will pay him to stop.
 
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[X] Plan Not Repeating Past Mistakes
-[X] You have learned your lesson from indulging Relath for things like this. Tell Amrelath to destroy the Bonestorms.
-[X] Speak to the Red Priests
--[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
-[X] Assist Group 2
 
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seriously fuck their god their religion should be banned in all our cities and we should not allow it to spread now. the seven may not like magic but at least they don't say that all men are their slaves. A god that propagates all men as his slaves should not be welcomed anywhere near our future empire.

p.s. maybe we can start raising everyone in our armies once we steal tiamats hoard completely theres around a million true ressurections with that kind of loot if its anything like her d&d or pathfinder hoard.
[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
 
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@Deliste, could I interest you into a vote that does not let a bunch of flying human bones tarnish our reputation for no reason?

@Duesal, you say that we agreed to pay him for his loot, but these things aren't. He isn't controlling them for more then a few minutes. Furthermore, he swore himself to us. This means he is required to behave. Had he stored a bunch of skeletons somewhere for sacrifice, he could claim loot and barter, but he is causing problems with something he can't keep. This is exactly the line we always failed to draw with Relath and I'm not going to accept "but he dragon" as an argument after that debacle.

@Diomedon, could you back me up?
 
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@Duesal, you say that we agreed to pay him for his loot, but these things aren't. He isn't controlling them for more then a few minutes. Furthermore, he swore himself to us. This means he is required to behave. Had he stored a bunch of skeletons somewhere for sacrifice, he could claim loot and barter, but he is causing problems with something he can't keep. This is exactly the line we always failed to draw with Relath and I'm not going to accept "but he dragon" as an argument after that debacle.
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I can pretty much guarantee this approach will cause problems. We don't even have a convenient Lawful Neutral alignment to rely on in this case.
 
It's cute the way the red priests are trying to get in on this. nope.jpg :D.

We don't have a container of sufficient hardness to hold the bonestorms untill we have time to sacrafice them, so destroy them now. And consider a resiseable hardened adamantine container.

Also, yay! Evil wizard get!

I am concerned that we failed to make something a turtle again; rats are fast and good at hiding :/
 
Duesal said:
Cut off its feet and heal the damage so it doesn't bleed to death. Problem solved.
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Ohhhhh! Is that worth adding to plans? I expect this thing to try and be a problem for us, what with it being a Daemon.

We still have a big Daemon boss left to fight though?

*Wishes for Dim Anchor.
 
BeepSmile said:
Ohhhhh! Is that worth adding to plans? I expect this thing to try and be a problem for us, what with it being a Daemon.

We still have a big Daemon boss left to fight though?

*Wishes for Dim Anchor.
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Nah, it's basically standard at this point. If we ever get sacrifices that might be problematic IC, steps are taken to make sure they never escape. Crippling them, cursing them to hell and back, etc. No need to worry.
 
Duesal said:
I can pretty much guarantee this approach will cause problems. We don't even have a convenient Lawful Neutral alignment to rely on in this case.
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He isn't a human and neither is he independent. We own his ass already. Everything beyond orders we give to him is a bonus.

This is the beginning stage of Relath and you want to let the next one fester like that? Just because he might grumble at us?

If we don't draw the line now, it will get worse and worse with escalating bad behaviour.
 
Azel said:
He isn't a human and neither is he independent. We own his ass already. Everything beyond orders we give to him is a bonus.

This is the beginning stage of Relath and you want to let the next one fester like that? Just because he might grumble at us?

If we don't draw the line now, it will get worse and worse with escalating bad behaviour.
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I'm not saying don't draw the line, I'm saying you need to go into this with the expectation that he'll lash out like the CE Red Dracolich that he is. Be prepared to have to rough him up.
 
Duesal said:
I'm not saying don't draw the line, I'm saying you need to go into this with the expectation that he'll lash out like the CE Red Dracolich that he is. Be prepared to have to rough him up.
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Wylla is a CE vampire and we would tell her to destroy the things without a second thought and she is just as strong as him by now.

You are still trying to indulge the dragon, just because he is a dragon.

The whole argument boils down to "the petulant child should be indulged at all times or it might get upset".

And we don't even know if he will kick up a fuss at all. His nature might just blind him to the implications of his actions. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

But accepting a preventable problem just because we can't be arsed to do something? Shall we maybe keep slavery around because the slavers might not like it if we abolish it?
 
Azel said:
He isn't a human and neither is he independent. We own his ass already. Everything beyond orders we give to him is a bonus.

This is the beginning stage of Relath and you want to let the next one fester like that? Just because he might grumble at us?

If we don't draw the line now, it will get worse and worse with escalating bad behaviour.
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I'm not disagreeing with your overall "up with this shit, I will not put", but does this not go against the vote of:

"[] Agree (Amrelath gains ownership of anything he kills or binds and any possessions on them)

[] Counter offer
-[] Write in

OOC: He knows he can't keep the undead indefinitely so he would probably trade them back relatively cheap."

Where everyone voted agree? I mean, I'm not saying your point is a bad one, just that it looks like going back on the deal made eirler?[/I]

How about: If he can't hold them for 24 hours, or put them in a safe container for sacrafice later on, then he destroys them now? <- It's not our fault he can't keep them, but his own limits. ;). 200 gold for each bonestorm or whatever, a relative pittance, we can pay them later.

The nice thing about Amrealth, is that I think that most of us a quite ok with the idea of killing him :)
 
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