Should I do an interlude now? It seems a slightly odd place to inset one.
The last few chapters have been pretty chaotic anyway. Interludes ahoy!

Edit: If you want votes at the end of updates, this is a good place to do levelups and such if anyone will level from the battle. Or decide on medals and whatnot, because you know that we will argue about terminology.
 
Never played after WoWTLK, and always on private servers, but I keep following the story. And I'm hoping they get to do a WoW movie about Arthas (and that they don't screw it up)
Thats my biggest hope too, the quality of the first 2-3 movies doesnt matter, i'll watch them anyway just so they keep making them until they reach Arthas.
His story simply must be made into a movie.
I used to play in a private server too, but got tired of the bugs and moved to the official servers the moment i could afford it. So worth It.
 
[x] Goldfish

// The difference between slavers and cultists is that the slavers rob their victims of freedom and life, and cultists rob them of freedom, life and their souls. And are fine with Planetos going to hell/abyss/abaddon.
Slavers rob plenty of souls too, they just do it indirectly, but they tend to beat the good out of the slaves, and leave them with so little and so desperate, that they are ready to harm each other for a bit of food, so the slavers also encourage their slaves towards evil or at least towards non-good, which mean they condemn some to the fiendish realms, though punishing them until they have turned extremely selfish in self-defense, and deny a lot of the other entrance to the celestial afterlife, by beating the inclination to do good deeds out of them, because time doing good deeds is time not spent doing their work.

So slavers cost plenty of slaves their chance at a nice afterlife, they just don't get paid for doing so, but the slavers don't want the slaves to show solidarity to each other, so they divide them and play them against each other, because a disorganized slave population is less likely to unite in rebellion, and so doing the slavers turn some slaves evil and some non-good, with only a few managing to remain good.
 
Perhaps Arcanums + Opaline Vault shopping trips? We just chuck a list of items we want to DP and three days to get it all. Quick and dirty with hopefully minimal updates. We came, we saw, we bought.

If not then frankly the crafting system will need some sort of workaround, either more crafting wights or some new rule because the problem is only getting worse the more higher level we get.
Rina has Craft Wondrous item too, we can divide the crafting duties between Lya and her now, and if we are ready to sacrifice 10000 EXP, we can dreamwish for other PCs to get that Feat(half of the EXP cost must be paid by the one getting the feat) once Dalla is fully sworn to us I want to do that with her, the Adapt class sucks at combat, but her high level mean she can still craft items at high CL.

If we make someone a dedicated crafter, we might also want to consider Dreamwishing Extraordinary Artisan, but that's only if we decide that we are ready to spend EXP to save gold.
 
Ah, finally home. It's so nice to have a freaking keyboard and mouse again.

Rina has Craft Wondrous item too, we can divide the crafting duties between Lya and her now, and if we are ready to sacrifice 10000 EXP, we can dreamwish for other PCs to get that Feat(half of the EXP cost must be paid by the one getting the feat) once Dalla is fully sworn to us I want to do that with her, the Adapt class sucks at combat, but her high level mean she can still craft items at high CL.

If we make someone a dedicated crafter, we might also want to consider Dreamwishing Extraordinary Artisan, but that's only if we decide that we are ready to spend EXP to save gold.

No need to spend so much XP, especially on an item creation feat of all things.

Between Lya's Dedicated Wrights, Leila, Rina, and Valeria the Crafter Arcanum, we're going to be in a good position for crafting in the coming months.
 
Interlude CCXLI: Of Blood and Beasts
Of Blood and Beasts

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Second Month 293 AC

The air stank of stale beer and wet cows, but above all else it smelled of blood, not the coppery scent that came after a fight, but the sickly sweetness of rot that sank into stone and timber alike. Most would not have thought that odd of a butcher's shop, but the six gathered outside that night as the rain fell ever thicker over Tyrosh knew far more of blood than most. They had seen it spilled in battle, in sacrifice to strange and thirsting gods, and some of them from other purposes besides.

Maelor shivered, and not against the trickle of rain that had found its way past his cloak and down his back. He'd seen his share of killers, young as he was the boy counted himself one too, but some things... some people could still give him that empty feeling in the pit of his stomach, the smiling killers, the ones who did not care one whit for the blood spilt.

"So, shall I bring one of them out here to have a chat?" the blood-drinker asked with the lazy smirk of one showing off in good fun. The boy did not begrudge her the fangs, or even the absence of a heart-beat. He counted friends those who likely did not even have a heart of any sort, but something about how lightly she spoke of killing reminded him forcefully that not all the monsters were on the other side of the sagging weather-beaten walls.

"I don't like her," Glyra admitted in a whisper after Wyla had vanished into mist.

"How come?" Maelor asked, startled, leaning close. Though she had grown kind in her own odd way, the gremlin was still not one to become upset over the hows and the wherefores of things. Only deeds truly mattered in the games of the fey.

"Because she gets to have all the fun!" the red-headed girl who was not child in truth said, voice rising slightly in aggravation.

"Do not let her smiles fool you, cousin," the crow-headed archon said, his voice grave. "She is chained against herself. The pain she inflicts upon others echoes upon her own soul in ways hidden from her eyes by the veil of her curse."

The advice only earns a familiar roll of the eyes from the little fey. "If you think you are having fun then you are having fun, you don't have to get agreement or permission, that's why it's called fun and not duty."

Fortunately for the conversation the arrival of Wyla and her latest puppet soon interpreted the discussion which Maelor suspected could last until the end of days without one persuading the other.

"You might want to save some of the cattle..." she began. Seeing the looks directed at her the blood-drinker sighed, much put upon. "I mean the actual yearlings, the ones in the pen over there," she motioned to the pen. "Some of them only became beasts quite ah... recently, according to Torgen here. The magus who rules this place makes a habit of stealing children away then transmuting them into cows or pigs and having them cut up and served to the families, after they have been properly inspected by the customer of course."

"Wouldn't they change back once killed?" Garin asked, sounding sick to his stomach.

"They have a spell for that too... a daemon, really," the dead woman explains, looking suddenly sympathetic to Garin's feelings if nothing else.

"I always did wonder, what would happen if I fed someone to a conjured bear," Vee interjected darkly, her words holding more of the marshlands than usual.

"You'd get a rather unsightly mound of flesh to clean up once the beast was gone," Wyla replied instantly.

Maelor almost asked if she was speaking from experience, before thinking the better of the question. Instead he reminded Vee, "There's more use to them if we feed them to the snake or the trees."

The girl huffed. "Don't suppose we can ask either to make it hurt more, is there?"

The crow-spirit sighed but he did not speak up, eyes still looking to the north where the signal for the attack would be given. Even it must have known some battles were not worth fighting.

OOC: Did not want to interrupt the combat for more combat, so here's a bit more about how daemon cults operate and of course some character development.
 
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Slavers rob plenty of souls too, they just do it indirectly, but they tend to beat the good out of the slaves, and leave them with so little and so desperate, that they are ready to harm each other for a bit of food, so the slavers also encourage their slaves towards evil or at least towards non-good, which mean they condemn some to the fiendish realms, though punishing them until they have turned extremely selfish in self-defense, and deny a lot of the other entrance to the celestial afterlife, by beating the inclination to do good deeds out of them, because time doing good deeds is time not spent doing their work.

So slavers cost plenty of slaves their chance at a nice afterlife, they just don't get paid for doing so, but the slavers don't want the slaves to show solidarity to each other, so they divide them and play them against each other, because a disorganized slave population is less likely to unite in rebellion, and so doing the slavers turn some slaves evil and some non-good, with only a few managing to remain good.
Slavers do that incidentally, 99.99% of them don't even know the basics of where souls go after death. Cultists do it deliberately.

Cultists also willingly summon things to the material realm that put the world itself in danger.

"You might want to save some of the cattle..." she began. Seeing the looks directed at her the blood-drinker sighed, much put upon. "I mean the actual yearlings, the ones in the pen over there," she motioned to the pen. "Some of them only became beasts quite ah... recently according to Torgen here. The magus who rules this place makes a habit of stealing children away then transmuting them into cows or pigs and having them cut up and served to the families, after they have been properly inspected by the customer of course."
Cultists also do ultra evil shit like this, that the overwhelming majority of slavers in the material plane simply can't do.
 
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What a surprise, fucked up daemon cultists do a bunch of fucked up things.

I hope we'll be able to change them back once this is all over.
 
Ah, that little Gremlin has really grown on me over the years.

Swing free, Spider Glyra!

Spider Glyra, Spider Glyra, Incredibly Annoying Spider Glyra!
 
Cultists also do ultra evil shit like this, that the overwhelming majority of slavers in the material plane simply can't do.
Some cultists do things like that, but cultists run the gamut for how hardcore evil they are just as much as slavers, they are all evil of course, but they run from extreme evil like that to just blood sacrifice from power, so while the worst of the cultist, are a bit worse than the worst of the slavers, there are plenty of cultists less evil than the evilest of slavers.

After all slavers do such things as torturing innocents for fun or profit, so while the average slaver is less evil than the average cultist, there are slavers just as bad the average cultist, and yet those slavers wont be sacrificed.
 
No one else commenting on how incredibly and surprisingly insightful Glyra's comment was?

Duty indeed. *snort*
 
No one else commenting on how incredibly and surprisingly insightful Glyra's comment was?

Duty indeed. *snort*
I thought the truth was self-evident enough to need no comment.

The crow-spirit sighed but he did not speak up, eyes still looking to the north where the signal for the attack would be given. even it must have known some battles were not worth fighting.
This is nice.
Even the Archons are not trying to argue not to sacrifice this kind of person.
 
They argue for the principle more than any personal attachment. Literally.

They're not really capable of arguing otherwise, which is why no one here showed more offense at his obvious lack of murderous intent. Even they know it would be rather pointless.
 
Some cultists do things like that, but cultists run the gamut for how hardcore evil they are just as much as slavers, they are all evil of course, but they run from extreme evil like that to just blood sacrifice from power, so while the worst of the cultist, are a bit worse than the worst of the slavers, there are plenty of cultists less evil than the evilest of slavers.

After all slavers do such things as torturing innocents for fun or profit, so while the average slaver is less evil than the average cultist, there are slavers just as bad the average cultist, and yet those slavers wont be sacrificed.
Yeah, but that's because we have rules. We need those rules because we don't have a flawless evil-ness meter that everybody trusts, so instead of checking how evil the person is we check how evil what they did is. And the average cultist is way more evil than the average slaver, which means being one is considered far worse than being the other. So we can justify them getting sacrificed, which is perceived as a far worse punishment than being killed.

In truth it could be argued that it isn't, because either way you still go to the lower planes (being sacrificed to Yss is different, you could argue for a mortal who won't get rezzed being soul destroyed is kinder than the lower planes but that's very debatable). But public perception is an important part of this whole thing.
 
This is nice.
Even the Archons are not trying to argue not to sacrifice this kind of person.
How should he even try to argue here?

Archon: "The death of sentient beings is always a tragedy, since it takes even the faintest chance at redemption from them."
Vee: "He kills children to feed them to their parents."
Archon: "As I was saying: faintest chance."
 
Yeah, but that's because we have rules. We need those rules because we don't have a flawless evil-ness meter that everybody trusts, so instead of checking how evil the person is we check how evil what they did is. And the average cultist is way more evil than the average slaver, which means being one is considered far worse than being the other. So we can justify them getting sacrificed, which is perceived as a far worse punishment than being killed.

In truth it could be argued that it isn't, because either way you still go to the lower planes (being sacrificed to Yss is different, you could argue for a mortal who won't get rezzed being soul destroyed is kinder than the lower planes but that's very debatable). But public perception is an important part of this whole thing.
Which is why I want having tortured your slaves for fun or profit to be a sacrifice worthy offence, not slavery in general, but to have tortured or killed slaves for fun or profit specifically, that we could easily check for, and I believe that kind of evil deserve being hung on a heart tree.

If you are merely a slaver, then you get a second chance when we take over, that I'm okay with, a lot of the slavers were just taught that slavery was okay from childhood, if you have killed or tortured your slaves, as punishment for things that really shouldn't warrant it, then I want you executed, if you have killed or tortured your slaves just because it amused you, or because you saw a profit in it, then I want you sacrificed to the old gods.
 
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Reminds me of Demiurge from Overlord. That's pretty much exactly what he does (except he doesn't bother to transform them into cattle before feeding the parents their own children).
 
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