Heretek
Techpriest of Tzeentch
If we went full on dark magic I would love if that was our first great accomplishment.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Sinsystems
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StormLord
Savior, Conqueror, Hero, Villain.
[x] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
I expect Wolf to combine best of both worlds.
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[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Well seeing the other options I voted for aren't going to win I might as well vote for maximum Dämmerlichtreiter.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Well seeing the other options I voted for aren't going to win I might as well vote for maximum Dämmerlichtreiter.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
If all three of those won, it would be pretty fun imagining what would go through Belegar's head.
"So you visited every College of Magic... every Elector-Count of your Empire... and every Dwarfhold in the Grey and Black Mountains?"
"Yep."
"In... a week."
"I would have been back sooner, but I had to wait for them to talk it over."
So a natural for one of the Dwarf holds would involve Mathilde riding down the tunnel to where their King is fighting the skaven except she took a wrong turn, and unknowingly save his life by routing the skaven with Dread Aspect, thereby making him honor bound to personally commit to the reconquest? Obviously Mathilde wouldn't know this due to promptly riding off after delivering her message as she has much distance yet to travel before she is done.
You just KNOW the name would never be so dignified.
Especially after that incident with the giant black rooster.
It may involve some neck romancing...
Alright, so while I am reluctant to make assumptions on @BoneyM 's quest, most other source material I've read has magic users in armies pitching their tents together (possibly metaphorically with Amber Wizards) somewhat apart from the common soldiery, both because they tend to give the muggles the heebie jeebies and because wizards tend to be a little more comfortable around people who can see the winds of magic. (I'm imagining a very 60s sitcom atmosphere actually. "Weather sure is Aqshy today, bring a fire extinguisher with you today.")
Anyway, I want to mention two things; as best I understand it, Substance of Shadow is both eligible for Matrix (I've been looking for an authoritative quote or description for its limits and haven't found much applicable to this) and remarkably useful for killing things dead. I imagine we could assemble a kill-team of people willing to take extra risks in exchange for extra pay (Doppelsöldner are a thing, after all) so we stuff them full of a Matrix spell that lets them infiltrate into the enemy's back lines and kill high value targets like leadership and spellcasters; both attacking and spellcasting are cited as being explicitly permitted in Realms of Sorcery but I don't want to step on anyone's toes here by insisting that is also true in Divided Loyalties). Even if we'd probably prefer Stirland's woodsmen for most of this, we'd probably get some of our best pickings from either the knights or the Nordlanders.
Secondly, the Gold College traditionally recruits from metalworkers, herbalists and alchemists so there's a chance the Gold Journeyman knows his way around a flask of bubbling chemical mixtures. If the Musk of Fear is a thing here, maybe they could brew up a 'fear musk bomb' to encourage chain routs for Skaven? It's not like they're noted as being particularly brave creatures in the first place, and the more pressure applied there the more likely it is that the Skaven chaff will break and run, meaning fewer meat shields between Dawi and manling steel and rat-ogre flesh.
On a tangentially related note I wonder if the Gold College would be interested in our niter crystals. They are supposed to be involved in the search for bigger and better gunpowders, and I imagine there's other alchemical uses for it they'd be interested in not needing to wade through lesser purities to get to.
@BoneyM Would it be overreaching to try and create a 'fight in the shade' spell that drastically increases the efficacy of spells like Burning Shadows, or would we be better served just investing in a hot air balloon and trying to get the ungainly thing to shade the portion of the battlefield we're interested in?
Man, if only she was any good at stealing things. Oh well. (Might be incentive for people to pick up some of those wilderness survival skills, either from huntsmen of Stirland or cash in Dwarf Favors)
[x] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[x] Accept simply as yourself.
Preference voting.
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To mercenaries.
- [x] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Our current deficiencies are in lack of cannon and lack of spellcasters to dispell. Mercenaries are easily bought when you can offer the sums of cash a dwarf-lord can, and while quality varies among dogs of war, you can certainly hire artillery regiments from Tilea and I imagine Wissenland. There's a chance there's some mercenary Bright Wizard or the like out there as well, which would be helpful but I'm mostly fishing for artillery with the mercs. Colleges of magic I'm not expecting magisters, but even a handful more journeymen would be more magical weight to throw at problems, and I'm sort of hoping we pick up a Grey journeyman to dote on (which is to say, keep hiding poison tokens in their food along with cheery reminders to 'watch yourself' and other helpful training tips). The dwarf-holds should be pretty obvious, as they provide great artillery and some of them even have runesmiths.
Anyway, I want to mention two things; as best I understand it, Substance of Shadow is both eligible for Matrix (I've been looking for an authoritative quote or description for its limits and haven't found much applicable to this) and remarkably useful for killing things dead. I imagine we could assemble a kill-team of people willing to take extra risks in exchange for extra pay (Doppelsöldner are a thing, after all) so we stuff them full of a Matrix spell that lets them infiltrate into the enemy's back lines and kill high value targets like leadership and spellcasters; both attacking and spellcasting are cited as being explicitly permitted in Realms of Sorcery but I don't want to step on anyone's toes here by insisting that is also true in Divided Loyalties). Even if we'd probably prefer Stirland's woodsmen for most of this, we'd probably get some of our best pickings from either the knights or the Nordlanders.
Secondly, the Gold College traditionally recruits from metalworkers, herbalists and alchemists so there's a chance the Gold Journeyman knows his way around a flask of bubbling chemical mixtures. If the Musk of Fear is a thing here, maybe they could brew up a 'fear musk bomb' to encourage chain routs for Skaven? It's not like they're noted as being particularly brave creatures in the first place, and the more pressure applied there the more likely it is that the Skaven chaff will break and run, meaning fewer meat shields between Dawi and manling steel and rat-ogre flesh.
On a tangentially related note I wonder if the Gold College would be interested in our niter crystals. They are supposed to be involved in the search for bigger and better gunpowders, and I imagine there's other alchemical uses for it they'd be interested in not needing to wade through lesser purities to get to.
@BoneyM Would it be overreaching to try and create a 'fight in the shade' spell that drastically increases the efficacy of spells like Burning Shadows, or would we be better served just investing in a hot air balloon and trying to get the ungainly thing to shade the portion of the battlefield we're interested in?
Man, if only she was any good at stealing things. Oh well. (Might be incentive for people to pick up some of those wilderness survival skills, either from huntsmen of Stirland or cash in Dwarf Favors)
[x] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[x] Accept simply as yourself.
Preference voting.
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To mercenaries.
- [x] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Our current deficiencies are in lack of cannon and lack of spellcasters to dispell. Mercenaries are easily bought when you can offer the sums of cash a dwarf-lord can, and while quality varies among dogs of war, you can certainly hire artillery regiments from Tilea and I imagine Wissenland. There's a chance there's some mercenary Bright Wizard or the like out there as well, which would be helpful but I'm mostly fishing for artillery with the mercs. Colleges of magic I'm not expecting magisters, but even a handful more journeymen would be more magical weight to throw at problems, and I'm sort of hoping we pick up a Grey journeyman to dote on (which is to say, keep hiding poison tokens in their food along with cheery reminders to 'watch yourself' and other helpful training tips). The dwarf-holds should be pretty obvious, as they provide great artillery and some of them even have runesmiths.
Z000
If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster
- Location
- Viet Nam
LoganBert34
Apprentice Clerk
- Location
- Australia
Why do I have the distinct hunch that the peeps at Belegar Quest are gonna start calling Weber "Reroll-chan"?
Also, I wonder how the Everchosen's quest is faring right now. Hopefully he's rolled multiple nat 1's as well.
Also, I wonder how the Everchosen's quest is faring right now. Hopefully he's rolled multiple nat 1's as well.
Stranger1950
Worth It
- Location
- Reverse Side of the World
Enemy Solider: Oh no, it's the Dämmerlichtreiter giant black cock. Run for you lives men!
Mathilde: Dammit, it's giant black rooster. Not cock.
Like, he probably rolled a 90> for her and she would probably the favorite character/adviser in that quest.
Also, I can imagine that when Karak Eight Peaks almost retaken, the Skaven/Goblin makes a last ditch attack and the Grey Witch come to rescue. However, they got a nat 1 in her survival roll and she was wounded badly from the attempt. Still, being a badass, she managed to rescue the PC and only dying when the battle over.
There was much crying from that, but unlike a certain quest, they rolled a nat 100 for a miracle and her corpse was suddenly healing from the wounds. She then woke up and there was much rejoicing.
Lucky bastards I would say for those playing in that quest.
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Drucchi
Wasp Guy
- Location
- Beneath the Bug Exhibit at the Zoological Museum
Belegar quest? The hell is that?
Z000
If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster
- Location
- Viet Nam
it a thing that been going around
basically treating other character as if there a quest about them
it started over in SB from the AGG base quest
- Location
- Australia
A "nega-verse" - an imaginary quest where the protagonist is Belegar instead of Mathilde.
LoganBert34
Apprentice Clerk
- Location
- Australia
AGG quest? Tell me more lore-master!
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Bah, changing votes. Hopefully Mathilde will get more magic and canon support, though I would be willing to settle with a crash course of dwarven etiquette.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Bah, changing votes. Hopefully Mathilde will get more magic and canon support, though I would be willing to settle with a crash course of dwarven etiquette.
- Location
- Aotearoa
It's a running joke on the thread, that some other key characters are PCs in their own Quests. Van Hal being a traditional CK2 quest (check the Apocrypha), Anton the mastermind schemer in Tzeentch Advisor Quest, the odd reference to annoyed Necromancer Quest players...
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
It also makes fantastic omake fodder when players write up the different POVs of what is going on in the form of a Negaverse omake. I especially love it when they are about the enemy side after we do something awesome and have the Negaverse players complain or get salty.
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
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Z000
If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster
- Location
- Viet Nam
AGG quest are from Sage of Eye over at SB
the quest system is like Fallout with different skill to train and Perk point
also have Persona Social Link for social stuff with perk, training boost and modifier attach
it have tendency to snowball out of control after the character stay still for a week and dump all action point into grinding one skill to 100
known for absurd Dice that fuck over the GM plan
alot of people copy the system, so you can see it here and over at QQ
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- Location
- Migrating back North
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Knightly Orders.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
Postal Service
Postal Service
It is a very bad day for Middenland and for Duke of Middenland in particular. The thing is, there are only so many dozens of beastmen you can slay before your hand falters or your foot slips or you blink in the wrong moment. Your greatswords lie proof of that statement and you're barely standing with a Runefang in the last working arm, death looming. Your only thought left is "Sword up - hew down" as you've been trained. You've lost a lot of blood and you're so tired that nothing can distract you: not even potent sense of dread filling your bones, nor the thunder hammering twice, nor the beastmen falling and running away in terror... Wait, what? You glance back and see a frame of a small woman in Witch Hunter hat with a strange-looking dwarven gun in one hand and metal sheet engraved with many lines of Reikspiel script.
-A letter from King Belegar Ironhammer. Please sign delivery notice, Your Highness - she says, offering you a stone tablet and a chisel.
You nod at the stump where your right hand used to be, stupefied. You probably won't die of beastmen today but blood loss can just kill as easily. At least, your last moments are entertaining. Witch Huntress runs to you:
-Just a moment, Your Highness. Breath deep, - she takes your arm in her left hand and you hear spring streams prattling, sense the tickling of fresh grass against your arm, vigor returns to your body and your mind feel refreshed. You chisel your signature on the stone tablet, still wordless, and the woman hops on vaguely horse-looking creature of shadow:
-Your knights will get here shortly, I've seen to that. Have a good day, Your Highness! Ta-ta!
It is a very bad day for Middenland and for Duke of Middenland in particular. The thing is, there are only so many dozens of beastmen you can slay before your hand falters or your foot slips or you blink in the wrong moment. Your greatswords lie proof of that statement and you're barely standing with a Runefang in the last working arm, death looming. Your only thought left is "Sword up - hew down" as you've been trained. You've lost a lot of blood and you're so tired that nothing can distract you: not even potent sense of dread filling your bones, nor the thunder hammering twice, nor the beastmen falling and running away in terror... Wait, what? You glance back and see a frame of a small woman in Witch Hunter hat with a strange-looking dwarven gun in one hand and metal sheet engraved with many lines of Reikspiel script.
-A letter from King Belegar Ironhammer. Please sign delivery notice, Your Highness - she says, offering you a stone tablet and a chisel.
You nod at the stump where your right hand used to be, stupefied. You probably won't die of beastmen today but blood loss can just kill as easily. At least, your last moments are entertaining. Witch Huntress runs to you:
-Just a moment, Your Highness. Breath deep, - she takes your arm in her left hand and you hear spring streams prattling, sense the tickling of fresh grass against your arm, vigor returns to your body and your mind feel refreshed. You chisel your signature on the stone tablet, still wordless, and the woman hops on vaguely horse-looking creature of shadow:
-Your knights will get here shortly, I've seen to that. Have a good day, Your Highness! Ta-ta!
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
It isn't only from AGG. I saw an instance of the negaverse arise independantly in Academia Nut's age of strife quest, though that never got to full omake status.
And personally, I'm less interested in the reaction posts about how amazing Mathilde is,since those often feel like someone trying to artificially inflate the character's reputation. Stuff like the Van Hal quest bits are my favorite, highlighing the oddities that come from shifting the PoV (IE, how horrible the starting council seemed, with it being a result of a ranald crit glitch)
And personally, I'm less interested in the reaction posts about how amazing Mathilde is,since those often feel like someone trying to artificially inflate the character's reputation. Stuff like the Van Hal quest bits are my favorite, highlighing the oddities that come from shifting the PoV (IE, how horrible the starting council seemed, with it being a result of a ranald crit glitch)
Hey, there was plenty of argument about how to us the other 2 actions. Nothing wrong with a little unity for once.
- Location
- Australia
Postal Service has convinced me. Switching from Knight orders to Elector Counts.
[x] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
[x] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Elector Counts.
- [X] To the Colleges of Magic.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.