Also have we considered we could just make a spell specifically for the trip? Resist Disease if we want to just walk around being plague incubators until we can find the time to drop a Panacea on the party, or Immunization (or some better name) if we want to no-sell them.

We already have a spell to deal with that issue. Life Bubble is perfect for preventing exposure to environmental hazards and lasts a long time each casting.

[X] Diomedon
 
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Also, what about talking to Amrelath? And some safety preparations for the shadow tower?
I Also don't feel like looting the city, we are not grave robbers, we should contact the spirits and put them to rest instead of waiting for them to come out and try to defend their home.
 
Please reconsider our position regarding these ruins, we want to one day resettle these plains, not leave them more haunted that when we found them.
We can still get a reward, both knowledge and the location of things they are willing to part with are on the table for most spirits.
 
Hmmm... I wonder...
So, Old Gods and Others act in retaliation with each-other actions...
...Just how bad is it going to be, if Old Gods will get a near-epic-level entity as a dinner power-up?
*whimpers*

Ahem.
On an unrelated matter... What's our plans with spellblobs? Are there ways to multiply them?
I think that getting a vat with one of those for every 1-2 hundred legioners will be helluva useful for them...
I don't think it work like that, the Others get to counter what the old gods do personally, I don't think they get to counter what the old gods bestow for sacrifices, else Bloodraven would probably have tried to get us to cut down on sacrifices, and wouldn't be encouraging the clansmen to do mass sacrifices.

So all in all I think the others only get to counteract what the old gods do without sacrifices, Bloodraven reviving our mother they got to counter, if we had gotten her revived by sacrificing a bunch of beings, they wouldn't have gotten to counter it, because the sacrifices aren't the old gods using their own power, it's the old gods shaping part of the power from the sacrifices and taking the rest, so while the old gods are involved, they aren't using their power just shaping power already in the world.
 
What about having Dany remain here with us, have her Contact the spirits and reach and agreement with them.
We repair the worst of the damage illyrio did, fight any Spirit corrupted by the priests, and lay the others to rest.
We can still loot anything illyrio left behind and the door.
 
@Diomedon Why everyone except Richard?

Someone should be teleporting with Viserys on the "outside" of the demiplane in case of mishap. We don't have Greater Teleport yet.

@Diomedon Lya won't be much help with the Music of Creation action. I would be fine with her spending those two days to forge a familiar bond with Aebys.

She's helping Dany, as one of the three people who can put days towards it (It's Xor, Dany, Lya limited). I assume she's turning fabricate towards helping, as well as pitching in on the organizing. To get two Lyre actions a month, we need 4 days from outside Xor to help.

Alternatively, Dany could do more and Lya could pick up some of Dany's Garin days to open up the days.

Wait. @Goldfish @Diomedon, doesn't Maelor have CHA as his casting stat? He's a Warlock, Sorcerer, and Eldritch Theurge. Why the WIS item?

His wisdom is 9, and we frequently send him out to be the wiser head between him and Glyra. He could use it. :p
 
What about having Dany remain here with us, have her Contact the spirits and reach and agreement with them.
We repair the worst of the damage illyrio did, fight any Spirit corrupted by the priests, and lay the others to rest.
We can still loot anything illyrio left behind and the door.

That seems pointless to me. The restless Undead cannot be reasoned with or placated. We already know Undead plague the area and that others are still in some sort of torpor state.

And it's a huge amount of trouble. No way are we going to invest the time or resources to repair a crumbling ruin.
 
That seems pointless to me. The restless Undead cannot be reasoned with or placated. We already know Undead plague the area and that others are still in some sort of torpor state.

And it's a huge amount of trouble. No way are we going to invest the time or resources to repair a crumbling ruin.
It would just be to return relics to their graves and fight off the corrupted. we csn likely find the source of the undead and clear them if we dont come in guns blazing.
One of the priests is probably corrupted and is dragging the others with him.
 
Because Maelor already has a Charisma boosting item, which would cost a lot and take a long time to upgrade. The +1 item is cheap and would remove the -1 Will save penalty he currently suffers from.
His wisdom is 9, and we frequently send him out to be the wiser head between him and Glyra. He could use it. :p
... Objections withdrawn.

As for binding Aebys as a familiar for Lya, there's no real harm in putting it in next turn. It doesn't sound like a complicated ritual, just an expensive one. Expenses that we can more than afford at this point in our careers. We're at the point where each and every fetch quest nets us tens of thousands of IM on top of arcane treasures. Hell yes.

On a side note, @Goldfish @Diomedon, what were the specifics of the familiar binding ritual? So we pay the 1000 IM and essentially buy the Improved Familiar feat? Could we take advantage of that between Viserys and Varys? Just use the ritual to get Improved Familiar and leave the original Obtain Familiar feat to be retrained for meta-magic? And more than that, are we allowed to do it more than once per person to also bind the dragonpen to Viserys?

We should eventually bind the dragonpens to all the party members, btw.
 
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I want to do eabys sooner because the ??? Might help with research and we are doing research this turn.
As for the particulars, dp approved replacing the feat with a ritual.. but didnt give any details other than It should be expensive, we should probably ask him
 
Just thought of this, but we need to take a few extra security measures when we go to Lys. Maelor and Glyra were thwarted at every turn by some bastard that kept sending the guard after them. So it's either divination or some sort of magical drone with with a see magic spell, like our greater ravens. Either of them means trouble.
 
I want to do eabys sooner because the ??? Might help with research and we are doing research this turn.
As for the particulars, dp approved replacing the feat with a ritual.. but didnt give any details other than It should be expensive, we should probably ask him
Alright, when DP wakes up we'll make sure to ask him all the details so we can have it on record. Also, @Diomedon, @das_slash is right. The ??? from Lya bonding with Aebys should help a LOT when it comes to research actions. Depending on what DP tells us (mainly how long the ritual would take), I'd prefer for Lya to do the ritual instead of learning Keen Edge and Flashburst.
 
... Objections withdrawn.

As for binding Aebys as a familiar for Lya, there's no real harm in putting it in next turn. It doesn't sound like a complicated ritual, just an expensive one. Expenses that we can more than afford at this point in our careers. We're at the point where each and every fetch quest nets us tens of thousands of IM on top of arcane treasures. Hell yes.

On a side note, @Goldfish @Diomedon, what were the specifics of the familiar binding ritual? So we pay the 1000 IM and essentially buy the Improved Familiar feat? Could we take advantage of that between Viserys and Varys? Just use the ritual to get Improved Familiar and leave the original Obtain Familiar feat to be retrained for meta-magic? And more than that, are we allowed to do it more than once per person to also bind the dragonpen to Viserys?

We should eventually bind the dragonpens to all the party members, btw.

That's honestly asking for too much and stretching the bounds of DP's generosity ridiculous amount.

Lya already has the ability to obtain a familiar, which would otherwise require a feat, if a character met the prerequisites. It's different to use a ritual to boost a feature the caster already possesses to one degree or another.

If you wanted to do the same with Viserys, he would first need to break his Familiar bond with Varys, which I will not support at all.

Teana has a Familiar/Item bond with a +4 Charisma item. That is not getting replaced, if I have anything to say. What she has is already amazing.

Maelor is our last eligible caster who could bond to a Familiar who has yet to do so. If he can also use whatever ritual mimics the effects of the Improved Familiar feat, I think he should bond to the Shadow Drake rather than a Calligraphy Wyrm.

Alright, when DP wakes up we'll make sure to ask him all the details so we can have it on record. Also, @Diomedon, @das_slash is right. The ??? from Lya bonding with Aebys should help a LOT when it comes to research actions. Depending on what DP tells us (mainly how long the ritual would take), I'd prefer for Lya to do the ritual instead of learning Keen Edge and Flashburst.

Ya'll are making a huge assumption that the ??? will be useful in any sort of way for research purposes.

I'm not going to support leaving those spells off, either. Already compromised on the other stuff to a great degree. Screw the ritual if it comes down to it this turn.
 
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I think we can fit Sothoryos in before Tyrosh. We have a Greater Teleport to the place, and I love when we go dungeon delving. Treasure should be nuts.

Anyway, there's a ton of good stat boosters we should have Leila craft. We've under underutilizing her for a while.

And in the topic of underutilized things, Tyene and Poison. Sweet Yss do we need to settle on some default poisons for her to use. She can deliver ingested poisons through spells. Aka, that which DP has drastically buffed to "you have 20+ CON or you don't even get a save" or so.
 
That's honestly asking for too much and stretching the bounds of DP's generosity ridiculous amount.

Lya already has the ability to obtain a familiar, which would otherwise require a feat, if a character met the prerequisites. It's different to use a ritual to boost a feature the caster already possesses to one degree or another.

If you wanted to do the same with Viserys, he would first need to break his Familiar bond with Varys, which I will not support at all.

Teana has a Familiar/Item bond with a +4 Charisma item. That is not getting replaced, if I have anything to say. What she has is already amazing.

Maelor is our last eligible caster who could bond to a Familiar who has yet to do so. If he can also use whatever ritual mimics the effects of the Improved Familiar feat, I think he should bond to the Shadow Drake rather than a Calligraphy Wyrm.



Ya'll are making a huge assumption that the ??? will be useful in any sort of way for research purposes.

I'm not going to support leaving those spells off, either. Already compromised on the other stuff to a great degree. Screw the ritual if it comes down to it this turn.
Can we at least have Viserys benefit from the ritual as well? We pay 1000 IM for the ritual, get the Improved Familiar feat for Varys, and then retrain Obtain Familiar. I don't think that's too much to ask. The ritual was designed with this in mind. Familiars are not optimal at our level, but they're still great thematically. So DP felt like to fit it in without sacrificing a feat he just needed to make it costly. And that's a price I'm willing to pay. 1000 IM to free up another feat for meta-magic? Hell yes. Don't assume it won't work right off the bat. Let's ask DP about it first.
I think we can fit Sothoryos in before Tyrosh. We have a Greater Teleport to the place, and I love when we go dungeon delving. Treasure should be nuts.

Anyway, there's a ton of good stat boosters we should have Leila craft. We've under underutilizing her for a while.

And in the topic of underutilized things, Tyene and Poison. Sweet Yss do we need to settle on some default poisons for her to use. She can deliver ingested poisons through spells. Aka, that which DP has drastically buffed to "you have 20+ CON or you don't even get a save" or so.
Don't forget the sacrifices. Just imagine how much HD those spiders are going to give us.
 
Right, she was limited by not having that magic poison belt thing, right? Need to add that to her Wishlist...
 
And in the topic of underutilized things, Tyene and Poison. Sweet Yss do we need to settle on some default poisons for her to use. She can deliver ingested poisons through spells. Aka, that which DP has drastically buffed to "you have 20+ CON or you don't even get a save" or so.

I've brought this up several times and I've gotten pretty frustrated with how little thought has been put into Tyene's poison use. DP doesn't seem to want her to use it, either, considering how many times Tyene has somehow gone on missions, or even gone purposefully into battle, without bringing a single dose of poison with her. It's ridiculous. The whole reason I argued for the Toxic Spell Metamagic feat was so she could use poison more frequently, but it has not happened even once.
 
I've brought this up several times and I've gotten pretty frustrated with how little thought has been put into Tyene's poison use. DP doesn't seem to want her to use it, either, considering how many times Tyene has somehow gone on missions, or even gone purposefully into battle, without bringing a single dose of poison with her. It's ridiculous. The whole reason I argued for the Toxic Spell Metamagic feat was so she could use poison more frequently, but it has not happened even once.
That was fixed. Earlier Tyene's poison immunity was tied to one of her Paths, so DP had an excuse to not bring poison because her immunity wasn't always active. Then @TotallyNotEvil negotiated and got perpetual poison immunity for Tyene (very recently) so now she has no excuse not to bring poisons everywhere. We should be seeing her have some fun in the near future.
 
Can we at least have Viserys benefit from the ritual as well? We pay 1000 IM for the ritual, get the Improved Familiar feat for Varys, and then retrain Obtain Familiar. I don't think that's too much to ask. The ritual was designed with this in mind. Familiars are not optimal at our level, but they're still great thematically. So DP felt like to fit it in without sacrificing a feat he just needed to make it costly. And that's a price I'm willing to pay. 1000 IM to free up another feat for meta-magic? Hell yes. Don't assume it won't work right off the bat. Let's ask DP about it first.

That doesn't make any sense, I'm afraid. Obtain Familiar wasn't a feat Viserys learned. It was a Class Feature built right into his original Sorcerer PC.

Varys is a snake, although a magical one now that she is a Familiar. You can't just undo that without consequences, as in it would kill her dead.

I get where you're coming from here, but your inexperience with D&D is showing a bit.
 
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