Doesn't that spell need a flat piece of the dead creature to make the map out of, like "a piece of hide, carapace, or skin?" We only have dust left.
DP told us that Bloodwish could take care of that much. And once we're done finding the treasures, we can use the "map" as a focus to bring him back if the divinations are positive.
 
Mmm ok, It seems we need to choose the Scale of the map, so unless we can make more than 1 map we should use speak with dead first.
Edit: i"m hoping It will lead us to a cache of warforged or whatever he was somewhere in Essos.
 
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Mmm ok, It seems we need to choose the Scale of the map, so unless we can make more than 1 map we should use speak with dead first.
Edit: i"m hoping It will lead us to a cache of warforged or whatever he was somewhere in Essos.
That's a good idea. Bloodwish to restore the body or at least enough of the body to make a map, Speak with Dead from either Dany or Malarys to figure out where precisely the best treasures are, then Create Treasure Map according to that.
 
Part MDCCLXXXV: Judgement of Gold and Ash
Judgement of Gold and Ash

Seventeenth Day of the First Month 293 AC

"I will be short while weapons are still in hand. I am tired of killing but neither unready nor unwilling to do so at need, Ser," you offer the title ungrudgingly, for after all did you not recognize Ser Gerold's claim to it on the same grounds? As soft insistent ringing fills the still air as you draw out Dark Sister. "Your captain is not here, nor his famed stolen blade, but here its sister shines ready to drink the blood of foes and traitors. So tell me then, are you such?"

"What surety do you offer?" the knight calls back, his eyes widening at the sight of Dark Sister. Given its history you imagine it might have a certain frightful reputation among the Golden Company.

"Lay down your arms so that I may take the measure of the men who led so many to folly under the grasping vice-grip of dark gods and demons. Mayhaps you think me little better, but I am still a man, and you can trust the judgement of a mortal lord more than you can the wrath of evil masters for perceived failures of their slaves. Make no mistake that is what the Dark Lady you served viewed you as: little better than cattle to be discarded to the hungering awoken dead who yet slumber beneath us thanks to my company's intervention."

"Lies!" someone shouts from the window, followed by other calls, mostly shouting him down you are glad to hear.

You ignore the byplay and address the 'official' delegation: "Whatever crimes I uncover, know that my judgement will be swifter and more merciful than that of She of Many Colors and her servants."

Silence reigns once more, heavy with things unsaid and the fears of cornered men. Time to give them one more push... "We are not unmerciful, nor are we predisposed to wasting talented men. Those deemed worthy of amnesty will be offered a place in our service among the newly formed Legion. Those who refuse will be allowed to keep their personal belongings, but nothing else, and will need to arrange their own transport back to the lands of Ombar or other civilized lands."

You half-expect to hear screams and the clash of steel as the sellswords turn on each other, perhaps even bolts cast out, however it seems the Golden Company is above such treachery even now.

With a sigh Ser Andrew hands you his sword, the gilding on the hilt covering well-balanced steel.

***​

"...for your crimes I count you Jorn Flowers unworthy to bear the legion's steel, but not deserving of death either. Go forth where you will," you say, your voice loud and carrying in spite of the tiredness you feel, more of the spirit than the flesh. The litany of complicity and complacency entwined make it hard to judge indeed where the the sword must fall, but by all the gods that may be listening you will not lay down capricious or over-swift judgement, not even on your erstwhile foes, especially on them.

The sound of the heavy doors opening is welcome indeed, all the more so for seeing Dany and Ser Richard safe and sound. "The shrine's was abandoned and now it's sundered for good," your sister says with a satisfied, almost triumphant expression.

Unfortunately the task is far from done, indeed it takes up the entire day to pass judgement of less then half of the men before you, though thankfully by the end of it you have enough would-be legionaries that you can rest relatively easily that they will guard their former comrades overnight.

***​

"What do you think we should do with this?" Lya asks holding up the small bag that holds the Smith's ashes. The two of you have withdrawn for the night, yet neither of you is quite ready to give in to slumber.

"I was thinking of making a map to divine any secrets he may have known," you answer idly.

"That seems a... waste," she says slowly, uncertainly. "He called no fiends and offered no sacrifice of slaves and he was knowledgeable. I'd like to speak with him if I had the chance."

What do you answer?

[] Agree, keep the ashes for possible reincarnation

[] Present a counter-argument
-[] Write in


OOC: Lya is not very firm in her position here, so if you want to press it should be reasonably easy.
 
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[X] Agree, keep the actions for possible reincarnation

:(

Maybe if/when the wizard is revived we can get him to tell us the locations of various treasures.
 
@DragonParadox, can we at least Bloodwish the ashes into something we can use Speak with Dead on to get as much information as possible? Like a skull or something? We could ask about various treasures, the purpose of the interrupted ritual, if the wizard would be willing to serve us, what race he would most prefer if brought back with reincarnation, etc. And at the end of it we'd have a perfectly good skull to use as the focus of Reincarnate.
 
Maybe if/when the wizard is revived we can get him to tell us the locations of various treasures.

Maybe, but if I was him I'd be pretty pissed off at how my ritual, which Lya herself described as awesome btw, was interrupted at the most crucial point because of a band of adventurers who even now are asking me where any more of my stuff is stashed so they can root through it like possums through garbage.

But then again I am a spiteful bastard so what do I know?
 
As a general reminder to everyone, the very second Viserys' spells replenish we're using Blood Wish --> Create Treasure Map on the wizard's ashes to get the spellbook if it exists and whatever else the wizard might have known about.

@Goldfish, can you add that in as a general footnote so we can point to that later?

I'm, sorry, but I have to say this:
Ancestral Awakening
 
@DragonParadox, can we at least Bloodwish the ashes into something we can use Speak with Dead on to get as much information as possible? Like a skull or something? We could ask about various treasures, the purpose of the interrupted ritual, if the wizard would be willing to serve us, what race he would most prefer if brought back with reincarnation, etc. And at the end of it we'd have a perfectly good skull to use as the focus of Reincarnate.

You can make the ashes whisper as Speak with Dead with blood wish if you want.
 
Maybe, but if I was him I'd be pretty pissed off at how my ritual, which Lya herself described as awesome btw, was interrupted at the most crucial point because of a band of adventurers who even now are asking me where any more of my stuff is stashed so they can root through it like possums through garbage.

But then again I am a spiteful bastard so what do I know?
Speak with Dead doesn't actually interact with the soul. It more interacts with an imprint the soul left behind. That's why if, for example, we asked Elia's skull how she would react to a world of magic, we'd get no answer because in life Elia couldn't have even conceived of such a thing. If we cast the spell and it works, then the wizard has to answer all of our questions truthfully. It can't hide anything.
You can make the ashes whisper as Speak with Dead with blood wish if you want.
Okay, that's some consolation at least. @DragonParadox, can we make a note to do that before we bring him back or is this something we'd need to vote on?
 
Is there any sign that he would even want to return? He attacked us immediately on arrival and it seems unlikely that he would consent to Ressurection if we call him.
 
Is there any sign that he would even want to return? He attacked us immediately on arrival and it seems unlikely that he would consent to Ressurection if we call him.
I mean, he attacked us because we were clearly hostile. If he doesn't want to come back for resurrection, that's fine. We'd figure that out via Divination and Speak with Dead anyway. Even if he won't come back, we still have the salvaged fruits of his failed ritual, and we have his golems and his loot.
 
@DragonParadox

Some of our party can probably go home while we're doing the whole judging thing. Vee needs to finish the safe memory moss usage if we're going to use it for our anti-divination plan, and she can transport 3-4 people with her, depending on if DP let's her use her effective level 12 despite us not having done the level up for her yet.

Maelor and Glyra both should have an opportunity to rest before heading to do the important Tyrosh investigations, and Aradia needs to go visit Greenstone with Azema. If DP let's Vee teleport as a level 12 caster, she can bring along an Iron Archer to back Aradia and Azema up.

Is that an alright slight retcon (to let them go home after it's clear there wont be a fight) and can Vee teleport as a level 12 caster?
 
@DragonParadox

Some of our party can probably go home while we're doing the whole judging thing. Vee needs to finish the safe memory moss usage if we're going to use it for our anti-divination plan, and she can transport 3-4 people with her, depending on if DP let's her use her effective level 12 despite us not having done the level up for her yet.

Maelor and Glyra both should have an opportunity to rest before heading to do the important Tyrosh investigations, and Aradia needs to go visit Greenstone with Azema. If DP let's Vee teleport as a level 12 caster, she can bring along an Iron Archer to back Aradia and Azema up.
I want to spend a day or two clearing out the undead under Sallosh before any of that.
 
@DragonParadox

Some of our party can probably go home while we're doing the whole judging thing. Vee needs to finish the safe memory moss usage if we're going to use it for our anti-divination plan, and she can transport 3-4 people with her, depending on if DP let's her use her effective level 12 despite us not having done the level up for her yet.

Maelor and Glyra both should have an opportunity to rest before heading to do the important Tyrosh investigations, and Aradia needs to go visit Greenstone with Azema. If DP let's Vee teleport as a level 12 caster, she can bring along an Iron Archer to back Aradia and Azema up.

Iron golems are not sutble in action or easy to hide nearby.
 
Maelor, Glyra, and Vee aren't really anti-undead specced. I feel like the rest of the party is a sufficient preponderance of force. I think people forgot that finishing the Memory Moss safe usage is actually pretty important for our anti-divination plan that involves using memory moss on a significant amount of our Party.
 
Maelor, Glyra, and Vee aren't really anti-undead specced. I feel like the rest of the party is a sufficient preponderance of force. I think people forgot that finishing the Memory Moss safe usage is actually pretty important for our anti-divination plan that involves using memory moss on a significant amount of our Party.
Maelor's also a living wand of infinite dispels. He could come in handy here.
 
Now that Viserys has access to Blood Wish'ed Awakening; Can we please fabricate MwK obisidian humanoids and awaken them?

@DragonParadox that would work right, I mean whats the difference between that and Awaken Sand which is a published spell. :sour:
 
Now that Viserys has access to Blood Wish'ed Awakening; Can we please fabricate MwK obisidian humanoids and awaken them?

@DragonParadox that would work right, I mean whats the difference between that and Awaken Sand which is a published spell. :sour:

No way are we wasting XP to Awaken things. That is off the table forever if I have anything to say about it. Sorry.

If you want intelligent rock creatures, Lya can make sentient Constructs with no XP cost.
 
[X] Agree, keep the ashes for possible reincarnation

Don't forget the loot guys. They should have pried a lot of shiny stuff from the walls.
 
[X] Counter-Argument.
-[X] The Smith willingly worked for Illyrion Mopatis', as reprehensible a human being as we could hope to find. He also came uncomfortably close to killing Lya. That doesn't get rewarded with Reincarnation or Resurrection.
-[X] Surely he valued his spell books and other Arcane lore, and likely kept it nearby. We can use his remains to fashion a map to lead us to all he held dear. Blood Wish a Create Treasure Map spell with his ashes.
 
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