A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Evaunit02mark1 · Feb 6, 2018

Ah I can see the update now.

So this is what everyone was excited about.

[X] Yes (All your trade goods totaling 27,000 Gold worth of trade goods for 30,000 Gold worth of various reagents and 6,000 Scepters)

For the first time in my life I feel, Looted out.

I'm going to need at least 20 minutes before I can think of stealing something/someone else.

BeepSmile · Feb 6, 2018

DragonParadox said:
You can also buy various magical beasts or hire mercenaries, even mercenary wizards or other mages

Great!

Goldfish said:
Frankly, she is not worth the expense, and I'll fight resurrecting her just as much if anyone decides we need yet another person to sponge up our valuable time and resources.

Yeah, I'm anti-effort with rezzing this girl. My limit: we provide the diamond if Doran does not have one. If he pays for it. Past that he can go talk a long walk of a high cliff.

BeepSmile · Feb 6, 2018

Goldfish said:
We are only on the 4th day of the 5 days we allotted ourselves for the Shaitan escort mission, and we have 2 more days of wiggle room after that before we cut into anything else scheduled.

We can easily spend 2 days here now. There is stuff we want to get done; visit a holy place and get healed, look into curse breakers, do some shopping, etc.

I want to go shopping with Lya, that's all. If we can put off getting the books, that would be nice.
and we really should make a scroll list again.

TotallyNotEvil · Feb 6, 2018

[X] Yes (All your trade goods totaling 27,000 Gold worth of trade goods for 30,000 Gold worth of various reagents and 6,000 Scepters)

Azel said:

Though I wouldn't mind some Boots of Teleport

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Belts of the Wide Earth for EVERYONE!

Azel · Feb 6, 2018

I maintain my position. Dorne got more then enough from us. If they want even more, they pay for it. Favourable rates like we gave the Iron Bank, since they are allies, but I won't support to give Doran a wet fart for free after Ellya.

Abhishekam · Feb 6, 2018

Wait hold on is that 30000 Gold worth of reagents at Molten Skies prices or Material Plane prices?

Scribbler · Feb 6, 2018

So is this it for our current interaction with House Ajhar? The trade deal is obviously great, but I though people had other ideas like starting a mine (@Tomcost ), negotiating access to the MS portal (@Azel ), and "selling" (I imagine for political capital rather than currency?) the information about the Plane of Balance. (For that last one a lot of people said we should do it as soon as we have more information about the locals. Do we have that now, or do we need to find out something else?)

Do people just want to keep our entanglement here to a minimum, or are we planning on bringing those things up later? (If so, when?)

TotallyNotEvil · Feb 6, 2018

Abhishek M said:
Wait hold on is that 30000 Gold worth of reagents at Molten Skies prices or Material Plane prices?

MS.

Enough to craft for a few turns at least.

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

TotallyNotEvil said:
[X] Yes (All your trade goods totaling 27,000 Gold worth of trade goods for 30,000 Gold worth of various reagents and 6,000 Scepters)

Belts of the Wide Earth for EVERYONE!

Belt of the Wide Earth

Holy fuck, it's a teleport item!

And it would only cost 400 IM to craft! @TotallyNotEvil, we can add the effect onto the belts we've already got, right?

BeepSmile · Feb 6, 2018

TotallyNotEvil said:
[X] Yes (All your trade goods totaling 27,000 Gold worth of trade goods for 30,000 Gold worth of various reagents and 6,000 Scepters)

Belts of the Wide Earth for EVERYONE!

@DragonParadox Can we craft a duskblade variant? Same thing, but costs a spell slot of the highest level that a duskblade has available at level 10/11 (usual level 5 slot people have)?

Waymar deserves some love for being awesome-shonen I think.

Honestly, if there was a telepathic bond between the various party members, he'd probably still be blushing from the emotional praise/awe-equivalent

Edit: We are so calling an illusion to show this to his family later.

Goldfish · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
Belt of the Wide Earth

Holy fuck, it's a teleport item! And it would only cost 400 IM to craft! @TotallyNotEvil, we can add the effect onto the belts we've already got, right?

600 IM after the EA discount.

Rather than adding more effects to belts, I would prefer to make them Boots of the Wide Earth, which we then add the Anklet of Translocation effect to.

Abhishekam · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
Belt of the Wide Earth

Holy fuck, it's a teleport item! And it would only cost 400 IM to craft! @TotallyNotEvil, we can add the effect onto the belts we've already got, right?

Wait hold on it doubles our carrying capacity as an add-on? Does that stack with our other carry buffs? Because if so Viserys with belt can lifting an Inn on each arm.

Viserys: "Dost though even LIFT!?"

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

Goldfish said:
600 IM after the EA discount.

Rather than adding more effects to belts, I would prefer to make them Boots of the Wide Earth, which we then add the Anklet of Translocation effect to.

If we're making Boots of the Wide Earth, then it would only cost 300 IM to make. Original D&D crafting price is 4,000 gp, that converts to 800 IM in Prime Material prices and 400 IM in Molten Skies prices, and then the Extraordinary Artisan shaves off 25% of that leaving us at a nice and low 300 IM.

This would be such a boon for sending out baby adventurers.

tarrangar · Feb 6, 2018

Azel said:
I maintain my position. Dorne got more then enough from us. If they want even more, they pay for it. Favourable rates like we gave the Iron Bank, since they are allies, but I won't support to give Doran a wet fart for free after Ellya.

Rhaenys is also a Targaryan, so if they provide the diamond, us providing the spell is fair once Dany can cast it.

If Doran want someone not related to us resurrected however, he will have to pay in addition to providing the reagent.

DragonParadox · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
If we're making Boots of the Wide Earth, then it would only cost 300 IM to make. Original D&D crafting price is 4,000 gp, that converts to 800 IM in Prime Material prices and 400 IM in Molten Skies prices, and then the Extraordinary Artisan shaves off 25% of that leaving us at a nice and low 300 IM.

This would be such a boon for sending out baby adventurers.

You still need a 5th level spell-slot to use it.

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

DragonParadox said:
You still need a 5th level spell-slot to use it.

It's still something that Dany, Malarys, and Tyene will immediately be able to take advantage of. And later on so will other party members, and even the baby PCs when they're strong enough. This is the perfect way to get around the Wizards/Sorcerers only rule for Teleport.

BeepSmile · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
If we're making Boots of the Wide Earth, then it would only cost 300 IM to make. Original D&D crafting price is 4,000 gp, that converts to 800 IM in Prime Material prices and 400 IM in Molten Skies prices, and then the Extraordinary Artisan shaves off 25% of that leaving us at a nice and low 300 IM.

This would be such a boon for sending out baby adventurers.

It would get Tyene what she wants: Freedom

(Teleport = Freedom in my view, freedom from the surly bonds of distance-in-space!)

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

BeepSmile said:
It would get Tyene what she wants: Freedom

(Teleport = Freedom in my view, freedom from the surly bonds of distance-in-space!)

Sure, but it's not like we don't already let her do whatever she wants. She even ropes Viserys into taking her shopping for clothes.

Massgamer · Feb 6, 2018

Since we are close to reviving Elia will we also revive her children?

I ask since surely she will ask and like her they met an unjust death.

Goldfish · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
If we're making Boots of the Wide Earth, then it would only cost 300 IM to make. Original D&D crafting price is 4,000 gp, that converts to 800 IM in Prime Material prices and 400 IM in Molten Skies prices, and then the Extraordinary Artisan shaves off 25% of that leaving us at a nice and low 300 IM.

This would be such a boon for sending out baby adventurers.

We don't divide the crafting price. We divide the final value by 10 to get the IM cost for us to craft.

8000 ÷ 10 * 0.75 = 600 IM

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

Massgamer said:
Since we are close to reviving Elia will we also revive her children?

I ask since surely she will ask and like her they met an unjust death.

Yes, but not with a resurrection scroll. Waiting for Dany to get strong enough is the better option.

But I'm really not a fan of any attempts to give Rhaenys to the Martells. She's a Targaryen, she should be with us.

Goldfish · Feb 6, 2018

Massgamer said:
Since we are close to reviving Elia will we also revive her children?

I ask since surely she will ask and like her they met an unjust death.

If Doran pays for it. Otherwise, no.

BeepSmile · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
Yes, but not with a resurrection scroll. Waiting for Dany to get strong enough is the better option.

But I'm really not a fan of any attempts to give Rhaenys to the Martells. She's a Targaryen, she should be with us.

... She's 3. IDGAF. And her mum probably will be all clingy and going WTF!?

noliar · Feb 6, 2018

Duesal said:
That's where Fabricate comes in.

Fabricate makes one finished product per casting by my reading. We want to make 10s of thousands of arrow and bolt heads and thousands of spearheads. Unless we can make them on sprues via Fabricate (does a line of arrowheads on a sprue count as a finshed product when the heads must still be separated to be used?) we'll want to work the glass by more conventional means.

Not to mention that providing work for crafters is better than taking up mage time for the overall SD economy.

edit:

from srd said:
Material Component

The original material, which costs the same amount as the raw materials required to craft the item to be created.

My bold

Duesal · Feb 6, 2018

BeepSmile said:
... She's 3. IDGAF. And her mum probably will be all clingy and going WTF!?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Still under our authority, not Doran's.

noliar said:
Fabricate makes one finished product per casting by my reading. We want to make 10s of thousands of arrow and bolt heads and thousands of spearheads. Unless we can make them on sprues via Fabricate (does a line of arrowheads on a sprue count as a finshed product when the heads must still be separated to be used?) we'll want to work the glass by more conventional means.

Not to mention that providing work for crafters is better than taking up mage time for the overall SD economy.

That's why instead of fabricating thousands of spearheads and arrowheads, we fabricate colossal blocks of dragonglass which Viserys can lift with his halfdragon forms, then planeshift back to Sorcerer's Deep. Once home we can then fabricate that block into the arrowheads and spearheads. The crafters can be busy by putting the spearheads and arrowheads onto actual spears and arrows.

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