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You know what I think is odd? Wonder Woman is Greek and yet all I ever see her do in comics/cartoons is either brawl or chick-fu, instead of the boxer-wrestler she would be.

Maybe because Wonder Woman isn't really Greek.

Golden Age the Amazons were their own country (Amazonia) that made the kingdoms of ancient Greece look like third world countries.

Then when they moved to their new home Athena gave them a crystal ball that allows them to see the past, present and future, with which they not only made themselves the most technically advanced country in the world but they learned charles atlas psychic powers like all of Wonder Woman's powers.

And if they could do that, they probably took liberally from all the martial arts in the world past present and future too.

Like some Greek myths, in some legends the Amazons were Greek, in others they were from Libya. Like comic book writers, ancient myth makers were fine with contradicting each other. :)

Post Crisis the Amazons are the reincarnated souls of random women murdered by men reborn from clay. At least one of them was a neanderthal, and Hippolyta was a cave woman, Diana was the reincarnation of the baby in her belly when the caveman murdered his pregnant mate.

In that continuity the Amazons were recreated in Greece but since they all remembered their entire lives the techniques they already knew are more likely to contribute to their fighting style than their Greek neighbors.

And since the Amazons in that continuity all have superhuman strength and speed they probably formed their own martial techniques appropriate for a people capable of breaking steel with their bare hands and bullet time reflexes instead of learning martial techniques from the vastly slower and weaker Greeks around them.

Not to mention that in that continuity Amazons have invulnerability to blunt force trauma, so a boxer with human strength is no threat whatsoever, so I don't see those techniques impressing them much. But swords and spears and arrows can pierce their skin, so weapon training would probably be taken more seriously.

Post Flashpoint, well maybe someone who is fan knows how their origins might have changed.

Now here in this fic Amazons in which Amazons don't have powers and one certainly gets the impression that they have a deeper connection to ancient Greece than the norm, Amazons might have boxing and pankration in their skill set.

But Zoat emphasises wrestling for the superstrong, so Wonder Woman isn't likely to have Diana floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee.
 
Hmm, he seems to love combat, the thrill of it, more then being consumed and lashing out. He saves mementos of moments he treasures. It's an abstract greed, but greed none the less.

Which is sort of what Paul is looking for in his corps, isn't he? Those whose desires come sideways, are about things less concrete and more mental. People who can channel Avarice to DO things rather then to collect them and then dig a hole and sit at the bottom of it. Of course he also has said he wants those kind of people, but he wants them where Avarice isn't there strongest emotion so that it isn't all consuming. This guy has been flashing Orange every couple of sentences. And this guy is clearly a terrible person - so he isn't a perfect fit.

But the question is... is he a good enough one?
Well he probably wants to be a better one after knowing what that gets him.
 
Hey Mr zoat I can't stand wondering is Jade waiting for Paul or are they gonna have an akward will they get together after any other possible relationship has broken because it's dc and she's an ex villain and it broke up in the show and comics or what ( not trying to criticise I love your work I just can't stand not knowing or thinking about a possible ring transferred call to earth to talk to jade and whether or not it will actually happen the phone call I mean obviously she likes him enough to try and screw him before he left earth I'm just wondering are they gonna end up keeping in touch or are they gonna have an akward phase or etc before they get together)
 
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Hey Mr zoat I can't stand wondering is Jade waiting for Paul or are they gonna have an akward will they get together after any other possible relationship has broken because it's dc and she's an ex villain and it broke up in the show and comics or what ( not trying to criticise I love your work I just can't stand not knowing or thinking about a possible ring transferred call to earth to talk to jade and whether or not it will actually happen the phone call I mean obviously she likes him enough to try and screw him before he left earth I'm just wondering are they gonna end up keeping in touch or are they gonna have an akward phase or etc before they get together)


The SI doesn't know.

Yay.exe
 
Also I remember he said he really wanted to be in a relationship with jade when saying why he turned down sex as a sort of " I have to be with someone I love type deal and I really like you maybe even love you but it just is not fair to start a relationship just to put you through a long distance relationship in less then a day"
 
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He was talking about orange lantern constructs like that guy who are an entire planets supply of children since they didn't have jewels and crap like that or at least not enough

If something is plot relevant (like the future relationship of paul) Mr Zoat answers the question with "The SI doesn't know", is pretty much a meme.

In short, I don't think he is going to answer that specific question as he already answered a similar one in the past.

Zoat said that Paul would be in some sort of relationship with Black Fire, we considered that to be WoZ on the future partner of Paul... and then it turned out the Teen Titans Paul (RAGE) ended up in a relationship with Black Fire, thus we are unsure what happens now with Orange Paul or if WoZ is actually valid or just a little bit of trolling on his part.
 
Oh and also I think she said she'd been sending him signals for weeks\ months so long-term romantic interest
 
In england we use "off the top of my head" rather than "from the top of my head" but i'm like 90% of Zoat is just messing with you.
I hear and use both but yes I figured as much.

A charging headbutt is a good way to get yourself flipped on your back in short order.
This. Though you're even more likely to get front facelocked and guillotine choked.

I'm from California and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "from the top of my head" instead of "off the top of my head". What sort of bizarro universe have I crossed over into?
Meh, you guys don't even have a water supply.

Actually Paul does in fact know hand to hand. It's been brought up on at least two occasions.
Yeah, but he's more a bare bones beginner type, and was mentally complaining the whole way.
 
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Unless you have a piece of chalk, and draw some sqiggly symbols over something you want to hide. Then it can't scan shit. All hail the mighty chalk!

I've been reading it as arcane fields not being all that common in the galaxy, and either power rings not being rigged to handle them well, or anti-magic stuff being a higher-level ring skill/ability that the SI hasn't mastered yet.

As for chalk, etc... I don't see it as the chalk itself being powerful, but that the shapes traced out by it (possibly accompanied by the caster's own magic or mindset) react with the standing magic field of the planet (or sometimes the caster, or another power source) to draw in and shape magic to particular ends, and it's the standing wave pattern of concentrated magic that interferes with standard ring scans and other effects. There are probably ways around it, either by using tools which aren't constructs or really sneaky construct combinations, but we already know that orange rings (and the SI's original one in particular) don't come equipped with all knowledge in the universe. Possibly both it and the Green Lantern official field agent database don't specifically mention how to get around various kinds of magic because it's not considered common or powerful enough in most cases to be included in the For Dummies beginner-level manual.
 
Hey Mr zoat I can't stand wondering is Jade waiting for Paul or are they gonna have an akward will they get together after any other possible relationship has broken because it's dc and she's an ex villain and it broke up in the show and comics or what ( not trying to criticise I love your work I just can't stand not knowing or thinking about a possible ring transferred call to earth to talk to jade and whether or not it will actually happen the phone call I mean obviously she likes him enough to try and screw him before he left earth I'm just wondering are they gonna end up keeping in touch or are they gonna have an akward phase or etc before they get together)
Okay, @Rjrulew? On your keyboard between the / button and the , button there should be a button with a little dot on it. It might have a > on it as well. This is what we call a full stop. Americans sometimes call it a period. It's used for breaking up long sentences into manageable sections. Consider using it.

They like each other and find one another attractive. It's a reasonable start to a relationship, assuming that neither of them become involved with someone else before he returns to Earth.
Zoat said that Paul would be in some sort of relationship with Black Fire, we considered that to be WoZ on the future partner of Paul... and then it turned out the Teen Titans Paul (RAGE) ended up in a relationship with Black Fire, thus we are unsure what happens now with Orange Paul or if WoZ is actually valid or just a little bit of trolling on his part.
I'm reasonably sure that I said that about the Renegade.
 
Tamanarama (part 16)
13th July
09:36 GMT


Alert: ship has exited spatial fracture and is heading toward Hny'xx.

Thank you. Any change in the disposition of the other ships?

An image appears in my mind. There's a cordon around where the Hellwraith is floating, but other than that it looks like everyone has returned to business as usual. I nod to myself, then rise to my feet. At this point I can probably fly in-system myself without giving anything much away about my capab-.

Cream coloured light manifests around the Clan Commander's throne, shifting and writhing in an approximate uneven sphere. I step back, construct armour appearing around my body. Okay, there's a few things that could be-.

There's a crackle of… Purple lightning? From the area inside the sphere, then something flies-. I grab the object with a construct claw. A.. metal cylinder, containing… Complicated circuitry which… Doesn't appear to do anything, some plant matter and what looks like cultured meat. There's also a small repulsor drive-.

It jerks, trying to get out of my grip. Still not sure what's going on I let it go, watching as it flies back to its origin point and disappear. Right, some sort of teleportation system and… A test sample. Testing to make sure that it's safe to send things through. Ring, prepare to destroy anything that comes through looking threatening.

Compliance.

And armour, obviously.

Compliance.

No alert from the ship yet. Technology this advanced implies Psion, as anyone else who could teleport things onto someone else's ship would use it to cut a swathe through Vega's other powers. Could be an outside force… Qwardians would be the worst-.

The cream orb flexes inwards then opens up, revealing a Psion in utilitarian purple overalls. He takes a moment to examine his surroundings. "Ah. A success."

"Can I help you?"

The cream light peels away, forming a backdrop for him as he sits in the Clan Commander's chair. His eyes are.. curiously Human, though the decorative head crenulations are a little odd. "I think it's more about what we can do for one another."

"You think that I can help you get orange power rings."

"It would be nice, but I am… Prepared to set my sights a little lower. We Psions aren't really the.. stomping around and conquering types. Oh, and may I say? That was a rather nice stratagem with the construct. Forcing the Admiral to call you in?"

I frown slightly. "I thought it was one of Larfleeze's..?"

"Too convenient. You buy a group of Tamaranian slaves from that Gordanian outpost and then a short time later a construct slave arrives in a system holding Tamaranian slaves… In a system which The Beast-. I'm sorry, which Larfleeze's slaves have already bypassed? It might have been him, but it's far more likely to have been you."

"There's a certain logic to the assumption."

"Of course, we don't really have enough data to reach a firm conclusion. So I don't feel the need to report my suspicions to the Admiral."

"Good of you."

"The question remains, then, why are you here? The Gordanians would be happy to gather more slaves for you and I'm certain that a Lantern could acquire technically skilled workers elsewhere. Puzzling."

"Are you going somewhere..?"

"The Spiders think that you're working for the Guardians in some fashion. I think that unlikely. A Guardian operative wouldn't have handed that fascinating construct-resistant woman over to us."

"What do you want?"

"What do I want? I want what the Guardians have: agents throughout the universe bringing me information and technology. I want a power ring for the challenge it poses to my intellect and the convenience of making my own constructs. And what I offer in return is Psion analytics and technology. Not every challenge can be overcome with brawn."

"Do you think you can do those things better than the Maltusians?"

"Aaaah." He thinks for a moment. "Pride demands that I say 'yes'. But… Honesty demands I say 'no'. However, I imagine that they would want a controlling share in exchange for their help. In fact, if another Maltusian group were like the Guardians… I doubt that they'd demand less than absolute sovereignty. We Psions would regard it simply as an improvement on our relationship with the Citadel; run your organisation as you wish."

"Without more personal lanterns, it would be a crippled organisation."

"I understand your concern, but I'm certain that -given time- we could-." He blinks, then the cream light moves to cover him once more. "Perhaps we could continue this later."

There's a crackle of purple lightning again, then the cream light collapses in on itself.

About four seconds before the room's main screen lights up with the Citadelian Admiral's face. "Orange Lantern! So good of you to come!" His eyes narrow slightly. "Such fine looking armour you have. You simply must give me the name of your armourer."

"It's an artisan piece. I'm not sure you could persuade them to make a suit for you."

"Pity. Trogaar has explained the situation?"

"You want the Construct Lantern removed. It's doable. For a price."

"I wouldn't dream of insulting you by suggesting that you work for free. I also want to talk to you about your rings."

"Naturally."

"No doubt Trogaar has made his approach already. Fie, I say! What is a fleet compared to the power of a Lantern Corps?"

"Depends on the fleet."

"The Citadel is prepared to compensate you well for assisting us in exterminating the Beast of Okaara and taking control of his possessions. We have a history of working well with aliens and being true to our word. Assist us, and as our Empire spreads you would be second only to the Emperor in power and influence. Navies to serve under your command. Worlds, yours, their people to do with as you pleased."

"Generous, but… I have… Concerns, about the capacity of most Citadelians to make use of power rings. Yourself, your implants… I'm sure that you could cope, but the common infantry-."

"And no doubt you have concerns about our numbers. Some sort of nonsense about.. the constant cloning causing some sort of genetic decay. Hm?"

"The First Citadelian was by all surviving accounts an extremely intelligent man. His descendants aren't. Your numbers have been constant for a very long time and you need cybernetic implants to become intelligent."

"True. All true. But like any other people we are capable of change. It is fortuitous that you are here. When you are done with that construct-thing, come into the base to speak with me in person. I have something to show you that I think you will find very interesting."
 
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Hooray! More connections!

I can't wait to see all of them brought to their knees beneath his hee-

Ah- I-I mean, I can't wait to see Paul make even more intergalactic friendships!
 
I'm getting flashbacks to that point in New Vegas where House, the NCR and the Legion all start trying to recruit the Courier. Also:
At this point I can probably fly in-system myself without giving anything mush away about my capab-.
'much'
Technology this advance implies Psion, as anyone else who could teleport things onto someone else's ship would use it to cut a swathe through Vega's other powers.
'advanced'
 
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Can we stop having random characters appear out of nowhere? Because like, I have no idea who this person was. Was that Trogaar? And if it wasn't Trogaar, then why did this new character sound like the same person? Zoat's prose is already complicated, occasionally, to tell who is doing the talking, but it's especially odd nowadays.

With the previous episodes, we had familiar characters to base their WTR versions on. These characters may exist out there in like 2 comic panels or something, but I'm having trouble keeping up. A reread of the chapter would probably help me figure it out, but I shouldn't have to read it twice to understand it.
 
Can we stop having random characters appear out of nowhere? Because like, I have no idea who this person was. Was that Trogaar? And if it wasn't Trogaar, then why did this new character sound like the same person? Zoat's prose is already complicated, occasionally, to tell who is doing the talking, but it's especially odd nowadays.

With the previous episodes, we had familiar characters to base their WTR versions on. These characters may exist out there in like 2 comic panels or something, but I'm having trouble keeping up. A reread of the chapter would probably help me figure it out, but I shouldn't have to read it twice to understand it.
Im afraid this is rather common with sci-fi try reading anything by peter f hamilton , its a nightmare to remember all the names.
 
Introduced this episode:
Erraia - Tamaranian archivist*
Karras - Tamaranian prince
Myand'r- Tamaranian king
Zaark - Gordanain seneschal
Weezak - Gordanian chief
Trogaar - Gordanian clan commander
Mylissa - Rilsomtine-native social worker*
Tront - Psion researcher
Unnamed Citadelian Admiral - Citadelian Admiral

Characters marked with a * are unlikely to reappear.
 
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"Aaaah." He thinks for a moment. "Pride demands that I say 'yes'. But… Honestly demands I say 'no'. However, I imagine that they would want a controlling share in exchange for their help. In fact, if another Maltusian group were like the Guardians… I doubt that they'd demand less than absolute sovereignty. We Psions would regard it simply as an improvement on our relationship with the Citadel; run your organisation as you wish."
Honesty
 
Introduced this episode:
Erraia - Thanagarian archivist*
Karras - Thanagarian prince
Myand'r- Thanagarian king
Zaark - Gordanain seneschal
Weezak - Gordanian chief
Trogaar - Gordanian clan commander
Mylissa - Rilsomtine-native social worker*
Tront - Psion researcher
Unnamed Citadelian Admiral - Citadelian Admiral

Characters marked with a * are unlikely to reappear.


Err pretty sure the thanagarians are the hawk people with n metal and wings...
 
Introduced this episode:
Erraia - Tamaranean archivist*
Karras - Tamaranean prince
Myand'r- Tamaranean king
Zaark - Gordanain seneschal
Weezak - Gordanian chief
Trogaar - Gordanian clan commander
Mylissa - Rilsomtine-native social worker*
Tront - Psion researcher
Unnamed Citadelian Admiral - Citadelian Admiral

Characters marked with a * are unlikely to reappear.
FTFY, none of those people are Thanagarian Mr. Zoat.
 
Can we stop having random characters appear out of nowhere? Because like, I have no idea who this person was. Was that Trogaar? And if it wasn't Trogaar, then why did this new character sound like the same person? Zoat's prose is already complicated, occasionally, to tell who is doing the talking, but it's especially odd nowadays.

With the previous episodes, we had familiar characters to base their WTR versions on. These characters may exist out there in like 2 comic panels or something, but I'm having trouble keeping up. A reread of the chapter would probably help me figure it out, but I shouldn't have to read it twice to understand it.
Trogaar seems to be the Gordonian that got Paul here, they all want the same thing from him so he can't really do much about that I don't know if they exist but if they do, I don't think it matters. If it's obscure enough they might as well just be OCs.

I might as well have been assassinated with how ninja'd I was.
 
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As for chalk, etc... I don't see it as the chalk itself being powerful
Uh yeah. See...I was being extremely sarcastic with that. You know, magic being so powerful it allows simple chalk to block a power ring. Thought....that was obvious.

To the episode itself. Ooooh I don't like any of this. Watch yourself Paul. These really aren't people you want to get in bed with. I'm reasonably certain OL knows that but...well he is a deal making guy.

Of course he could always turn the Psion into a construct. Not his style but...safer.
 
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