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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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And so Paul meets his first true recruit. I'm guessing he'll give the king instructions on how to prepare to use orange light.
 
He seems like a good candidate for the Green corps too, actually, since he has enough greed to attract that orange ring in a system chock-full of greedy motherfuckers but is showing even greater willpower by being able to resist the temptation to use it.

It's wrong that I kinda want him to go for broke dual-wielding two lights? And being a much better planetary monarch than Sinestro could ever dream to be?
 
I don't know what's more impressive: that he felt desire strong enough to call one of Larfleeze's rings to him, or that he had a strong enough willpower (and wisdom) to resist its temptations all this time.

Either way, I bet OL is/will be impressed.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
I don't know what's more impressive: that he felt desire strong enough to call one of Larfleeze's rings to him, or that he had a strong enough willpower (and wisdom) to resist its temptations all this time.

Either way, I bet OL is/will be impressed.
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"I was thinking about recruiting your daughters but, wow - I mean, whaw - you're even better for my purposes!"
... I mean, maybe he won't say something so easily misinterpreted... But since he pressed Myand'r's buttons within seconds of being told that the king is suspicious of the Orange Sigil, ehhhh...
 
Mr Zoat said:
12th July
20:16 GMT

"I did not take the ring, alien, because I recognised that no matter what it whispered to me in the dark of the night nothing good would bear the sigil of the Beast of Okaara."
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Smart man. Although it is going to cause Paul some diplomatic issues with him.

Maxx Crowley said:
I dunno...he doesn't seem clear headed enough to be a good Orange lantern. Desperate desire strikes me as a bad match.
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He was able to not wear the Ring, despite having those desperate desires. That shows incredible mental discipline.
 
I figure the strongest emotions aren't just one color. So he wants them back desperately because he cares about them dearly, and he is pissed off that they were taken from him in the first place.

It is kind of like the new core memories at the end of Inside Out. Those weren't just one emotion.
 
Well, now we know he missed the ladies. They are already undergoing to traumatic things atm.
Traumatic things I would never want anyone to experience. The powers they get from it are not worth it.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"I did not take the ring, alien, because I recognised that no matter what it whispered to me in the dark of the night nothing good would bear the sigil of the Beast of Okaara."
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Straight-up the smartest man in the Vega-system.
And isn't that a depressingly low bar.

Convincing him to take up the ring that he's already refused feels like a terrible waste. He was smart enough not to ruin his shit with it. Lets keep it that way.

Not to mention, he's going to be hostile to the idea, especially coming from someone who is themselves, wearing the sigil of the Beast of Okaara. (from which he believes that no good can come.)

Plus, he's a king, so there's the aquaman problem of a man with responsibilities not being able to gallivant around as a superhero.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
Yeah, see? This is almost exactly what I'm thinking now. I hadn't originally intended to go that way with it...
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Don't know, he isn't channeling his desire in productive ways, he is resisting them, that demonstrates great will power... Then again THAT may be the best mark for a future Orange recruit, have the will power to resist the corruption of the orange light and to deny it long enough to take off the ring when it starts to get overwhelming.


Mr Zoat, if the rings made by the beast of Okara are construct lanterns what happens to them when they run out of charge? Do they turn to dust and respawn in Larfleze (sp) ring?
 
iamnuff said:
I dunno, I kinda get what he means here. These two things aren't the same at all.
Human history is filled with slavery.
This clan's present day is filled with slavery.

If the question is "Should we kill slavers" then it's usually referring to present-day active slavers, not "anyone who has the blood of someone who once committed slavery, somewhere in their veins."

These aliens either have a society built on exploiting another species, or they do it for fun. Either way, the whole system has got to go.

Killing them all isn't the answer, because slaughtering civilians and children holds no practical purpose, but I wouldn't take military victory off the table.

Where are the Gordanians in this system based? A nearby planet? Liveships? Orbital stations?
If it's the latter, then maybe OL could (with help) transition the entire station into some far off corner of the galaxy, then make good on those interdiction fields.
Simple, neat. Leaves the Gordanians with no real way to respond.

If that's not an option though, the best I can think of is destroying their ability to fight back (gut their ships weapons and transporters) then demand they leave or you'll continue shooting holes in their station. Then drop the interdiction fields to prevent them from coming back.

I can't imagine that OL thinks he can negotiate an entire planet of slaves (and all the already taken slaves) away from this clan of slavers peacefully.
Well, technically I suppose he could just try to buy them all.
That's the wrong sort of message to give these Gordanians though, because it shows them that slavery does pay, and it pays extremely well.
I'd rather go with extremely precise and overwhelming violence, followed by the threat of much less precise (yet still overwhelming) violence to follow, if they don't do exactly what you say.
It's somewhat heavy-handed, but 'heavy-handed' seems perfectly appropriate here.

Obviously while you're doing this, you'd be scanning for Tamaranian life-signs on the ships/station and beaming them away.
Wait, can OL even do that? He needs line-of-effect for transitions, right? Going into or out of a space-ship without breaking atmospheric containment is a problem. 'Swhy Boom-tubes are such a big deal.

Well, if not, then brute-forcing it seems the best way. Find a section of the ship that looks uninhabited, breach it, seal it behind you. Then start rounding up the slaves via filaments and transitioning.
Anyone who wants to stay can go back, but everyone else gets a free ride back planetside.

Then comes society-building. Try to round up all the tech and knowledge for Erraia's stash, (and those of people like her) compile it all together (plus whatever you yourself decide to teach them) and build a prefabricated library stocked with all of it, in every major population centre on the planet.

Fixing Tamaran is going to be a long-term project, but that should give people something to do, while you deal with Lafleeze.
Once he's gone, we'll have Green Lanterns in the vega-system, and they can take some of the peacekeeping burden while you work on other stuff.
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I kinda agree. I mean, ID be very strongly tempted to try to kill the slavers, their clients, willing support personnel, anyone who's traded with/resupplied them without duress,anyone who's ever hired them, the rulers/leaders of any polity who's had willing dealings with them/aided them in any way shape or form without a figurative knife to their/their civilisations throat..
*is a proponent of the "slash and burn" response to both slavery and dragonslaying as a for-profit industry*
 
Mr Zoat said:
"No. It took me… I learned how to fight with them quickly because I was familiar with what they could do beforehand.
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This comment could bite him in the ass if this guy sticks around. It probably won't, but it could if he's not careful.
Mr Zoat said:
Yeah, see? This is almost exactly what I'm thinking now. I hadn't originally intended to go that way with it...
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He seems to be resisting the ring more than he is acting in a stable manner with his desires. Based on what's been shown so far, which is admittedly little, there's nothing contradictory about him being able to resist the ring itself while he views it as a thing from the Beast while also being susceptible to the mind altering effects if he put it on.

Also, it may be a bad idea to recruit people whose desires have a clear end goal. If the king most strongly desires the return of his family and the destruction of the Citadel, but little outside that scope, he would be a very limited Lantern compared to someone with more abstract desires such as building, knowledge, or the desire for stability and order.
varoksa said:
because he loves them not desires them. that would be gross....
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He desires their safety and well-being in addition to his other emotions for his daughters. "Desire" in the context of this story is very broad in scope, and doesn't have the same sexual undertones that we normally associate with the word.
Chaoswind said:
Mr Zoat, if the rings made by the beast of Okara are construct lanterns what happens to them when they run out of charge? Do they turn to dust and respawn in Larfleze (sp) ring?
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Construct-Lanterns draw directly from their owner's personal power battery, which for Larfleeze is the Central Power Battery. They shouldn't be able to run out of charge. No idea how they actually function as rings though.
 
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