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Practically no one on Earth showed any interest in one.
Considering that most of the people that would have a chance to ask for one have seen what end-spectrum rings do to people, I'd be fucking wary of them too.

Green Lanterns seem mostly okay, but the Star Sapphire incident and the Ophidian Arc would be massively disconcerting. Jade was after all, kind of horrified by her complete lack of self control while wearing the ring.

She bends over slightly in the air, still breathing hard. "That was… I-. I wanted…"

"Yes." I generate constructs, showing before and after images of the people she just healed. "You did a very good job." She straightens up slightly, looking at the images. I hold out my right hand. "Will you please return my ring to-?"

She pulls it off her finger and tosses it back before I can finish asking, and I attach a filament to her before she can plummet to the ground. "I-. That was… Overwhelming. I don't think I'm ready for that."

Paul is by no means an average example of what happens when you wear an orange ring. He's one of the lucky ones that manages to be productively insane. Everyone else that has ever worn one started going bugnuts crazy within minutes, and when the ring came off they were terrified of how the ring was influencing them. Hell, Paul was in that same boat before his enlightenment. Remember the orange eyes incident with Wonder Woman?
 
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Oh I figured they were going to go Full Miller the second they used that Dark knight quote at Comic-con.
Interesting take on there here. His final conclusion is that going full Miller would have been better.
Honestly, I've been rather surprised that Batman has been...well the most reasonable I've ever seen him portrayed in this story. Not...too pleased with how Clark handled Superboy, though I know its in line with YJ canon, but Batman not being a raging prick who appoints himself the ultimate moral authority on everything has sort of thrown me.
I don't really understand that sort of portrayal. He clearly has friendly relationships with people, and that wouldn't be possible if he was an arse to them all of the time. When I go beyond what was Batman 16 canon I try to think about how a character like that could work in a semi-real world and go from there.
Yet at the same time when Zoat mentioned Paul and Batman becoming estranged or however he put it does give me hope that they'll go...knuckle to knuckle so to speak. Nothing would please me more than to watch Orange Lantern put Brucey boy in his place. I'm rather hoping the quote didn't pertain to Grayven or something.
No, that's the actual SI.
See, ever since I read this, I've wondered what would happen if Batman really went for it with a yellow ring.
I doubt Paul is actually going to kick Batman's ass, but like rooting for Kon to ditch the martian for some Orange Parfait'....one can dream.
Why not have both?
As for Jade...I think she just pulled a "I just want to be normal" thing. Oh how I loathe that.
No, she was going crazy too. She hate losing control of herself because that's about the only control she had growing up.
 
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I mention boxing because of it's grecian roots, but more as a substitute for the chick-fu I see her doing a lot. What do I mean by that? Oh you know, lots of flippy jumping around crap with tons of awkward high kicks to show off the legs.

Wonder Woman's powers generally include superhuman speed, agility, and mobility (superhuman jumping, plus either gliding or actual flight).

Boxing, as dependent on footwork it is, would not be the best choice for someone who should be fighting with not only a lot of movement, but a lot of three dimensional movement, if they're taking advantage of their superpowers.
 
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As for chalk, etc... I don't see it as the chalk itself being powerful, but that the shapes traced out by it (possibly accompanied by the caster's own magic or mindset) react with the standing magic field of the planet (or sometimes the caster, or another power source) to draw in and shape magic to particular ends, and it's the standing wave pattern of concentrated magic that interferes with standard ring scans and other effects. There are probably ways around it, either by using tools which aren't constructs or really sneaky construct combinations, but we already know that orange rings (and the SI's original one in particular) don't come equipped with all knowledge in the universe. Possibly both it and the Green Lantern official field agent database don't specifically mention how to get around various kinds of magic because it's not considered common or powerful enough in most cases to be included in the For Dummies beginner-level manual.
I suspect you are correct that certain symbols have power regardless of what they are made with. Paul found that he was unable to form the insignias of the other Lantern Corps because the symbol immediately would begin channeling the respective Light and disrupt his cnstruct.

Still...after Marvel took a big crap on all us long time fans with ANAD (Marvel pulled a DC...never thought I'd see the day they would do what they had been praised for not doing.) I sort of want to reward DC.
:???: What's ANAD stand for?

Yet at the same time when Zoat mentioned Paul and Batman becoming estranged or however he put it does give me hope that they'll go...knuckle to knuckle so to speak. Nothing would please me more than to watch Orange Lantern put Brucey boy in his place. I'm rather hoping the quote didn't pertain to Grayven or something.
They can disagree without actually coming to blows. Granted, it's far less likely in a comic book universe than in reality, but still... :p
 
This is something that has been bugging me for a while, but considering that the Green Lanterns had Lantern Powered Space Stations wouldn't it make sense that in certain circumstances you'd see them having Lantern Powered Space Ships?

Like, if you're dealing with something that is capable of producing ships that are actually strong enough to pose a threat to a lantern, or at least making ENOUGH ships that there's a threat, then why not just make Green Lantern Patrol Ships or that sort of thing?

...Actually, didn't we already literally board one a while back on Earth? At least, it was a Malthusian ship used by the Guardians so maybe they've still got some of those lying around. I figure a couple Malthusian ships wielding Green Light would put a damper on most any other force in the galaxy real quick.
 
I mean, if it helps, the "Batman" in BvSDoJ is about as authentic as a seven-dollar bill, what with him shooting people in the face and blasting cars (and their occupants) into fiery chunks with Batmobile-mounted autocannon fire. Also, his habit of infiltrating jails, fucking branding the criminals lucky enough to survive him with a Bat symbol, and running a secret conspiracy within the prison population whose members torture and kill anyone who has one of those brands. He's essentially a mixture of Frank Miller Batman at his most psychotic, the Punisher, and The Shadow with less subtlety.

Also, Superman comes across like Scion, so that's a fascinating exercise in fucking up a character to the point where they become their own deconstruction.

The rest of it is incessant dream sequences, overblown expository nonsense, and Jesse Eisenberg auditioning for a role as the Riddler because apparently no one bothered informing him he's supposed to be Lex Luthor. Ms. Godot gets praise because she's the only person who isn't either handing in a bizarre/stupid/insane performance or being forced to act like a lunatic by the script (aside from poor Jeremy Irons, who gets even less screen time.)

It's a shitshow, is what I'm saying.

I'm sort of assuming they're trying for a loosely-related cinematic version of Injustice with the DCEU. It doesn't excuse how terribly it's been handled, but it does at least explain the direction they've been moving in. Sort of a timeline with Superman Vs. The Justice League as the ultimate goal and final movie. More realistically, final three-part movie.

I thought that might be where they were going back in the first Superman, when he killed Zod. My suspicion has only grown since then, and BvS practically shouts it from the rooftops with that brief future-Batman sequence.

Will it be any good? Of course not. None of these movies have managed to step beyond 'not good' except for Wonder Woman, which was merely decent in my opinion. (It was as good as it possibly could have been, given it's tied to DCEU, and is basically a World War One movie in the second/third acts, which I'm sick to death of, but I'm not going to grade it on a curve.)

It's still interesting that they're trying it.

They really should have brought back Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor, though. Or anyone other than Jesse Eisenberg.
 
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...Actually, didn't we already literally board one a while back on Earth? At least, it was a Malthusian ship used by the Guardians so maybe they've still got some of those lying around. I figure a couple Malthusian ships wielding Green Light would put a damper on most any other force in the galaxy real quick.

Yes, and generally Abin Sur, Hal's predecessor, crash landed his ship right before giving Hal his ring, and since Zoat has already canon welded one GL cartoon character I wouldn't be surprised if some variation of Aya the ship girl showed up sooner or later.

So emotional light wielders using ships is hardly unknown, just rare.
 
Now I want to see Paul accidentally attract another robot girl and/or android, leading to awkward attempts of flirtation from the both of them, or people around them noticing how well and close they are with each other without acting romantic about it.
 
It's not better than getting the backing of the Controllers.
I don't see the two as mutually exclusive.
Paul is by no means an average example of what happens when you wear an orange ring. He's one of the lucky ones that manages to be productively insane. Everyone else that has ever worn one started going bugnuts crazy within minutes, and when the ring came off they were terrified of how the ring was influencing them.
One other critical difference is that he immediately knew that orange rings drive you insane, and attempted to counter its influence from the beginning. Although we don't know precisely what happened with Truggs, everyone else who has used an orange ring didn't have that advantage.
This is something that has been bugging me for a while, but considering that the Green Lanterns had Lantern Powered Space Stations wouldn't it make sense that in certain circumstances you'd see them having Lantern Powered Space Ships?

Like, if you're dealing with something that is capable of producing ships that are actually strong enough to pose a threat to a lantern, or at least making ENOUGH ships that there's a threat, then why not just make Green Lantern Patrol Ships or that sort of thing?

...Actually, didn't we already literally board one a while back on Earth? At least, it was a Malthusian ship used by the Guardians so maybe they've still got some of those lying around. I figure a couple Malthusian ships wielding Green Light would put a damper on most any other force in the galaxy real quick.
Incidentally the quote I was looking for had the answer to both your questions.
I consider Tula's question for a moment. Modern Green Lantern ships have giant green power beams focused by whoever the Lantern in command is and are protected by stupendously strong green barriers. They don't have automated weaponry because they don't usually want to kill whoever it is they're fighting. Modern Controller ships can look like just about anything, though the ones Stewart Ring records as being used by the Darkstars tend to focus on speed and stealth over gunnery. Since I don't know exactly where this ship is from or precisely who built it I can't say for sure. **Maltusian automated defences tended to be purely passive. The main protection for the ship was the fact that there were Maltusians on board. Still, if you see the ship react to your presence in any way, fall back and create cover immediately.**
So it seems like GL ships are the equivalent of a sledgehammer, which would be why they aren't seen all that much when the Lantern is able to deal with most issues with their ring's flexibility. Guardian ships are basically high tech rowboats: basically just to get you from place to place while the occupants provide the power and weaponry.
 
Honestly despite everything being said to OL being possible complete bullshit, it's super refreshing to see people have the right attitude towards power rings.

"Oh shit that's a power ring. Can I have one? What do you want for one? We really want power rings."

Practically no one on Earth showed any interest in one.

Yeah...that made no sense. Unless some universal rule is forcing them to adhere to to their theme. I'll give Robin a pass because of how Paul's ring nearly Larfleeze'd him. As for Jade...I think she just pulled a "I just want to be normal" thing. Oh how I loathe that.

Who else has he offered? He kind of offered Cornwall Boy before he left.

It might be do to two reasons, one being that they are assuming that they can't even use them in the first place unless they get chosen and the second being that orange power rings come with the negative of driving people batshit crazy. Hell even in the canon comic literally half colors come with horrible prices. Violet turns you into a yandere, red into a mindless rage zombie, black into a literal zombie and orange into a super powered Gollum that is likely to haul up into a cave guarding their garbage for eternity. And orange just happens to be the color that Paul is using.

Even one of the three mentally 'stable' colors pretty much screams villain.
 
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Tamanarama (part 17)
13th July
10:02 GMT


My escort peels off as I enter the Admiral's office… No, more of a lounge, really. The Admiral himself grins broadly as he turns his attention away from a screen showing me come up behind my Hellwraith and 'overpower' it, sucking it into the ring.

"I had assumed that it would be somewhat more complicated. No? Or is it a matter of personal skill?"

He's lounging comfortably on a… It looks a bit like a chaise longue, something he could be comfortable lying or sitting on. There are five other Citadelians in the room in a similar state of repose. No weapons or armour. Unusual.

"Something like that. If Larfleeze had been concentrating on that particular Construct-Lantern, things could have been a good deal more… Complicated. Fortunately, he wasn't."

"And if he had been?"

"Then… It would have been a contest. His needs against mine." I take another look at his companions. They seem a little more attentive than other Citadelians I've encountered. I can't see outward signs of cybernetics… Worth the risk of a scan..? "Unless it was controlled by someone else, of course." He tilts his head slightly as the rings feed me all information on the other Citadelians that they can gather passively. "I mean, if I can use an orange ring for an extended period while remaining free of the Beast's influence, it would be foolish of me to assume that I'm the only one."

"Wise of you. Though if you'll forgive me, perhaps not something you want to announce to the other party in a negotiation?"

"I doubt that your Emperor would be best pleased if I negotiated in bad faith."

"No, but you aren't obliged to tell us things until we are formally allied." He turns his head aside, looking towards a doorway. "May I offer you a drink? I was maintaining a reserve of.. quality product, but since our work here is nearly done we may as well finish it."

The other Citadelians aren't showing any of the usual symptoms of cybernetic grafts… The Admiral does… Skin pigmentation suggests that they're younger… Though that's not a precise guide…

"Thank you."

"Anything in particular?"

"Surprise me."

"Htcha!" He grins. "I should think I can manage that." He presses a concealed button on his chair. "Slave! Nectar of the Abyss, two glasses, twenty seconds!"

I wait for a moment, then frown. "Twenty..? Seconds..?"

"Yes, this may interest you. If there's one technology we Citadelians know, it's cybernetic neural interfaces. We-" The doorway he waved at opens and a Tamaranian woman in a ragged dress walks in, her eyes locked directly ahead of her and two large glasses containing a murky dark grey liquid balanced on a tray in her hands. "-have been experimenting on our… Excess labour pool." The woman stops next to him, standing completely still with her eyes still not wandering. He reaches a hand up and takes the closest glass before nodding at the other. "Take it."

I extend three filaments, lifting the glass from the tray. Ring, chemical analysis? Oh. Well, it's… Not toxic as long as I wear a power ring. I take the glass in my right hand and raise it to him in a toast. "Your health."

"Oh, no." He takes a snip. "There's nothing in here good for my health."

I smile and sip-. Oh it tastes like a horrible combination of raw fish and coal! Ring, facial expression!

Compliance.

Uraghuraghuragh!

"The world will seem so much better when we reach the bottom of our glasses. Slave, put down the tray." She bends her legs, lays the tray flat on the ground and then stands up again. And again, without looking around. "Twelve seconds, good."

The woman gasps, her eyes widening for a moment. Then she collapses, curling up on the ground and breathing heavily.

"What.. did.. you..?"

"A simple conditioning technique. Some slave masters use punishment and kindness to train their slaves. Citadelians are not kind. A few wires here, and the slave experiences terror or agony. A few wires there, ecstatic pleasure. Far simpler."

I…

I pictureVery clearlyCutting him in half with a construct blade and.. not quite killing him immediately.

"That… Seems like an unusual expenditure of resources…"

"True… But I can't spend all day raping them. Even we Citadelians only have so much endurance. Up, slave. Five seconds."

I-. I'm not red, anger. When I am confronted by the horrors of the universe I rejoice-

The woman pushes herself up slightly with her right hand twitching as she tries to get her feet under her.

-for when I am done there will be one less.

Five seconds.

"Ooooowwwaaaagh!"

The woman collapses again, twitching spasmodically and exhaling a constant crying moan.

"Is..? This what this facility is for? Better slave indoctrination?"

"No. Quite the opposite. Better Citadelian indoctrination."

"I didn't think that the Citadelians were at all remiss in brutalising those who stand against them?"

"When they created the First Citadelian, the Psions used any number of.. additives, to alter the way his Branx and Okaaran components melded together. Then X'Hal levelled their laboratory -and most of their cities- and their records were lost."

"You're trying to reverse engineer it."

"Oh, no. Interfering with the First's body is… Unthinkable. But learning to duplicate their work is a desirable objective. My friends here-" He gestures to the room. "-are better. Not on a par with the First, but far more capable than our usual neonates."

"Wise, but why tell me? And why hide it? I'd be surprised if everyone didn't already assume that you'd be trying something like this."

"Why conceal it? Timing. We don't want anyone to have time to prepare themselves. Why tell you?" He takes another sip. "I want to show you that we're genuine. The Citadel will rule, not through proxies as we do now, but directly."

"And the Gordanians?"

He leans back. "They can make themselves useful. We will still pay for their services. But they will no longer be… Essential."

I nod. "I'd… Like to inspect your facilities. I need to be certain that you can actually deliver."

"That can happen. If you hand over one of your rings as security."

"I'll do better than that. I understand that the Citadel has recently acquired two Tamaranian princesses?" A momentary expression of mild surprise and curiosity passes over his face. "If you would be prepared to give them to me..." I take the Ceebiss ring out of a pouch on my armour's torso. "I would be quite happy to give you this ring in return."
 
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Oooooh Paul you are a devious bastard. Just be sure not to be there when he puts the ring on and wait for Larfleeze to take care of him for you.
 
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