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@Mr Zoat what was their reasoning in allowing this to happen?

My guess? "She's motivated to make sure he pays his penance."

I wonder if she sent the memories, not trying to revert him, but either wanting him to subconsciously remember what he did, with the dreams intended to torment his current self ("his punishment is not enough"), or if her memories of the event were just strong enough that they, for lack of a better word, "leaked" back to him slowly during their interactions.
 
Well, teenagers are idiots. This further confuses me, though, on who-did-what.
Goddamn it, forgot that part. OK, so we got the past about Dear Uncle Mal right. Then we got the crazy Martian Klannies in the mix during Megan's return to Mars after the Burner's reveal. And it sounded like the Hyper Klan was trying to recruit Malefic.

REVISED THEORY: The Klan figures out part of their burner's past. They also figured that SOMETHING happened with Mal and lots of people were mind wiped or edited and they want to poke it with stick. So during the White Power meeting they were having at the preserve, they convinced Megan; who is a strong telepath and is Mal's best and only friend to FIX his telepathy. With the more then likely borked in the head, daughter of one of his victims, and probation officer nearby constantly bombarding him with her thoughts of his past vile self for reasons.
But, it wasn't left in a can. Because....


This. Unless you consider the daughter who witnessed the events to be the can.

Why would a properly mindwiped individual need a probation officer to watch them? Its like the government knows that some of their stronger criminals might have tricks to pull themselves back together. Or friends to do that for them... Also probation officer means eventually they get paroled and released back into society. And they stuck, again, someone who has every reason to deny that release as the probation officer.

Welp going around in circles now. Time to cut the head of the snake eating its tail. We shall see next few updates. Unless Zoat cuts to renegade side...
 
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Well, teenagers are idiots. This further confuses me, though, on who-did-what.
Actually K'hym is also Mal's niece on acount of being his brother's daughter so this:
**I lived my whole life denying what I was. I think that I will properly thank my niece for releasing me.**

Shit, what did M'gann do?

**Knew…** Wait, that's… K'hym's voice. **That… You would be true to your nature. You are a kkrk!**
Can be parsed as Mal wanting to "thank" his niece, Paul thinking he means M'gann, but then he notices that Mal's other niece is there and that she is probably the one responcible for this mess.
Odds are Megan did nothing other than being there
 
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Source unknown, but my guess is either they're pretty damn crazy and want to 'return to their roots' (being psychotic madmen), or they're more concerned with actively working against Paul, thinking that all lanterns are in service of the Guardians, possibly both.
They clearly don't entirely understand themselves what they are doing, as demonstrated by their thinking that the Guardians are OL's "owners". On top of that they are fanatics. So, figuring out what they intended to do is rather difficult, since their intended results and what actually happened may well be rather far apart.
 
Learn to British.
Thank you, corrected.
I feel that the Martians held a massive idiot ball in letting the traumatized daughter of the victim be the guard for the deranged psychopath that rape-murdered her mother.

@Mr Zoat what was their reasoning in allowing this to happen?
A few reasons, not all of them particularly sensible. She was the only Martian who'd felt his mind while he was rampaging, as he'd kept his mental shields firmly in place before that. She was already infiltrating the White movement and so could (in disguise) get to his zoo without it being suspicious or (given the distances involved) painful. And it was hoped that contact with new Ma'alefa'ak would help her accept that the old one was gone.
 
A few reasons, not all of them particularly sensible. She was the only Martian who'd felt his mind while he was rampaging, as he'd kept his mental shields firmly in place before that. She was already infiltrating the White movement and so could (in disguise) get to his zoo without it being suspicious or (given the distances involved) painful. And it was hoped that contact with new Ma'alefa'ak would help her accept that the old one was gone.
That...is a very poor list of reasons. In fact the first reason doesn't even make sense; how does having felt his rampaging mind - as a victim no less - help keep watch over the guy? Have the Manhunters not heard of conflict of interests?
The Manhunters better revise their stupid SOP following this incident.
 
I'm still confused as to who says the following lines:
MrZoat said:
**Karmang wants you to join us, but his patience is not unlimited.**
Was Fluxus, they grey skinned Hyperclan member.
MrZoat said:
**Fluxus, deal with this stupid Earth animal, would you?**
Was Ma'alefa'ak, whom the SI had instructed Teekl to eat.
That...is a very poor list of reasons. In fact the first reason doesn't even make sense; how does having felt his rampaging mind - as a victim no less - help keep watch over the guy?
Because she knows what it looks like. If he shows any signs of reverting, she's best able to spot it.
Have the Manhunters not heard of conflict of interests?
Yes, but they're also telepathic. If someone is thinking 'I hate this person but I will still do this job to the best of my abilities' there isn't the same impetus to remove all such conflicts.
The Manhunters better revise their stupid SOP following this incident.
They probably will.
 
*sigh* Can nobody fight their natures in the DC universe? People do it every fucking day in ours.
Considering that destiny (of both the small "d" and capital "D" variety) is an actual thing in the setting, quite possibly not. That's probably one reason Grayven wants "immunity to destiny"; he doesn't want to be railroaded into being a character.

Just look at all those alternate worlds full of people with very different lives who somehow still end up acting in the same way, more or less. Or even the inverted ones. Something is clearly making people in radically different worlds decide that it would be a great idea to wear a bat on their chest or whatever.
 
*sigh* Can nobody fight their natures in the DC universe? People do it every fucking day in ours.
I'm honestly much less interested in this episode now: there's no nuance here, just a generic GOOD vs. EEEEVIL punchfest at best, assuming Zoat doesn't decide to have Malware reenact Game of Thrones for the next few updates (which I'll admit is unlikely, but considering he already ditched an interesting narrative for "MWAHAHAHAHA I AM RAPIST MURDERER!", I'm not feeling particularly charitable at the moment.)

We've completely abandoned any kind of nuance or depth to the story - it's just a psycho rolling around being a bastard because fuck you, a demonstrably less interesting story than a reasonable man going through a Falling Down scenario while dealing with Martian Black Panthers and the uncaring world that is Martian society as a whole. Like, having him be a gloating rapist just immediately tempts me to tune out until the insufferable/edgy section of the story has kindly fucked off to die in a ditch somewhere.
 
I'm honestly much less interested in this episode now: there's no nuance here, just a generic GOOD vs. EEEEVIL punchfest at best, assuming Zoat doesn't decide to have Malware reenact Game of Thrones for the next few updates (which I'll admit is unlikely, but considering he already ditched an interesting narrative for "MWAHAHAHAHA I AM RAPIST MURDERER!", I'm not feeling particularly charitable at the moment.)

We've completely abandoned any kind of nuance or depth to the story - it's just a psycho rolling around being a bastard because fuck you, a demonstrably less interesting story than a reasonable man going through a Falling Down scenario while dealing with Martian Black Panthers and the uncaring world that is Martian society as a whole. Like, having him be a gloating rapist just immediately tempts me to tune out until the insufferable/edgy section of the story has kindly fucked off to die in a ditch somewhere.
That's an awful lot to get out of one snippet.
 
I'm honestly much less interested in this episode now: there's no nuance here, just a generic GOOD vs. EEEEVIL punchfest at best, assuming Zoat doesn't decide to have Malware reenact Game of Thrones for the next few updates (which I'll admit is unlikely, but considering he already ditched an interesting narrative for "MWAHAHAHAHA I AM RAPIST MURDERER!", I'm not feeling particularly charitable at the moment.)

We've completely abandoned any kind of nuance or depth to the story - it's just a psycho rolling around being a bastard because fuck you, a demonstrably less interesting story than a reasonable man going through a Falling Down scenario while dealing with Martian Black Panthers and the uncaring world that is Martian society as a whole. Like, having him be a gloating rapist just immediately tempts me to tune out until the insufferable/edgy section of the story has kindly fucked off to die in a ditch somewhere.
Yeah. Another set character of canonically evil characters are acting evil in the same way as they did in the comics but with a minor adjustment for the Young Justice universe. The story is ruined forever!

Seriously. Do people not read the links Zoat gives?
 
I open my barriers slightly.
PAIN!
I'm.. face down in the dirt.
This is really starting to reach 'blithering idiot' levels of repetition. How many times must he be curbstomped by telepaths before he stops opening his brain for them?

Nice to know that Martian society isn't squeamish about dealing with insane monsters. Although their oversight and monitoring procedures could do with some improvement.

eh, really it sounds like the only reason that the personality death was reversible was because some idiot kept what was essentially a backup of his pre wipe mindstate handy and shoved it back into his head. Under normal circumstances personality death is just as effective as body death, with the added bonus of getting somone who can do a vital but normally impossible job on the surface.
Indeed. It is hardly the fault of the Martian justice system that they live in DC and that death becomes rather more negotiable when the main characters come to visit.
 
This is really starting to reach 'blithering idiot' levels of repetition. How many times must he be curbstomped by telepaths before he stops opening his brain for them?
They don't actually need that in order to attack you. At worst he gave Ma'al a minor assist in exchange for getting a much better idea about what was going on.
 
It spins out of control as she lines up a second shot.

Praexis swarm, go.

His head spins to face me as Construct Demons by the dozen tumble from the rings and fly at him, mouths open to bite and swallow. He back-pedals in the air, raising all four of his hands and firing beams of energy from them as well as from his eyes.

Is he familiar with this type of Demon or it that just standard training? No, telepathic, she might be aware that they want energy in their mouths.

In these two parts you switch pronouns so often that I actually have no clue whether it's supposed to be a male or a female that the SI's fighting right now.


My whole body humms with it and my vision goes white!

hums
 
Why didn't he combo the Brand on the Martian Mage with a flamethrower to break his will? That should have led to a near-instant branding.

Hell, why hasn't he been using fire regularly? He's good at telepathically projecting, he could be countering Ma'al's pain sending with a feeling of being burnt alive.
 
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