[] Determine Internal Factions: Receive a dossier on the relevant internal factions of a polity you have diplomatic relations with. This will allow you to support or oppose their internal factions to be more favorable to your interests.
-[] Revanchists.

I would like to suggest this action. We are running our of land to take that was once ymaryn. The last thing we want is revanchists to push us to agro prestiege rivals once their primary goals are met. This action should open up options to weaken them.

Or have I misunderstood this action? I could read this as being external only.
 
What is the point of surveying Memory of Spirit?
Potentially finding something useful there such as a location for a new mine or something that could attract visitors.

[] Determine Internal Factions: Receive a dossier on the relevant internal factions of a polity you have diplomatic relations with. This will allow you to support or oppose their internal factions to be more favorable to your interests.
-[] Revanchists.

I would like to suggest this action. We are running our of land to take that was once ymaryn. The last thing we want is revanchists to push us to agro prestiege rivals once their primary goals are met. This action should open up options to weaken them.
I would recommend reading what that action actually does. It is about finding out about the internal factions of foreign polities, not investigating one of our own internal factions.
 
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World: The Ymaryn must have some sort of plan. They always do. Look at how long they lasted thus far.
Ymaryn: Yeah. Yeah. We totally do!
Ymaryn: *internal screaming*

[] Determine Internal Factions: Receive a dossier on the relevant internal factions of a polity you have diplomatic relations with. This will allow you to support or oppose their internal factions to be more favorable to your interests.
-[] Revanchists.

I would like to suggest this action. We are running our of land to take that was once ymaryn. The last thing we want is revanchists to push us to agro prestiege rivals once their primary goals are met. This action should open up options to weaken them.

Or have I misunderstood this action? I could read this as being external only.

Once we conquered Western Wall and Thunder Plateau, the revanchist movement will basically disappear.
 
[X] Plan Oshha

For some reason I feel like instead of Khemetri Amber Road is gonna be our cat that we pet

Definitely.
They are too far to be governed by us at current tech, thus giving them independence was the right move, but they are potentially Russia, huge amount of land and resources, and in OTL the first kings of Russia were vikings, Norsca here, but if Amber Road wins against them now, we will have Ymaryn kings there, with laws similar to ours. Thus we should be able to be natural allies fairly easily for a long time.
 
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I still remember the big plan we were trying for in Path of Industrialisation before it died. Namely that we were making very close allies with Khemetri, the Not-India Empire that the Black Sheep evolved into I believe and the Hung. Which basically meant that when combined with how we were a merged Russia and Ymaryn absent the Thunder Plateau, that we basically had the great majority of the world's breadbasket regions and population.

When you factor in that we were making friends with the Native American nation that had recently managed to form that had won their war with the Not!USA to control the Great Plains, Mississippi and maybe the Great Lakes... Well, most of our members might have only been technologically competitive thanks to help from us. But when you have such a hold on the world food supply, you can counter the soft and hard power that technological difference fairly easily. So long as you be careful because you do NOT want to push hard enough that the citizens of the more technological nations start to starve. As that way lies a world war.

Would be interesting if we manage to pull off something similar to that in this quest. We've started by making friends in India, Russia and the Hung at least recognise we're probably an almost equal. Just need to get some influence over in the New World whenever that happens, because we definitely aren't getting major colonies there any time soon. Khemetri will be difficult though the fact we do have that long legacy of being friendly rivals to a degree should help.

Of course, all this is VERY long term planning because the conditions needed for that sort of control over the food supply to be really useful are still centuries off. Except for our own lands and probably the Hung.
 
I really think your argument lacks any real basis in reality. Non-conquest military campaigns have occurred since pretty much the start of known human history and were generally not viewed as failures (even on the cases they were such) and certainly not if you came back ladden with loot etc. And punishment campaigns are far from a novel idea...
The problem is that we explicitedly justified our war and our con
 
Once we conquered Western Wall and Thunder Plateau, the revanchist movement will basically disappear.
Not quite. The QM mentioned that there was a chance that it would end there, but if given the chance, the revanchists would push to extend revanchism to reclaiming our status as King of the Hill.
Ymaryn: Yeah. Yeah. We totally do!
Ymaryn: *internal screaming*
Funnily enough, both of these things are true at the same time.
 
Unfortunately, the weather has been rainy and miserable and I haven't been able to work up the energy to work on the update. As such the vote will remain open until I'm ready to start writing.
 
Someone should write a side story about the Dragon general doing a victory march with his troops, and then being told by the King that he has one last job to do.
 
I forget, who was it that was recently at war with WW? Tarta?

And can we convince the other one (Polska?) to swoop in and pincer them?

Western Wall has been at war with the Rus/slavs of the ukrainian breadbasket.

Edit: Vote Closed.

Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on Apr 13, 2021 at 3:48 AM, finished with 37 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X] Plan Oshha
    -[X] Influence & Influence: Activate The Mass Levy!: Arm and mobilize up to a million soldiers. The earth quakes at your approach. None can stand against the might of The People. (85%. 1 year. Success and length of campaign rolled separately. Possible influence gains or losses depending on result. Unsustainably expensive)
    --[X] Black Sheep & Western Wall
    -[X] Influence: Rage Against The Steppes!: Demand the Black Sheep savages surrender and abandon their oppression of the people of the Thunder Plateau. (Narrative%. 1 year. +Influence)
    -[X] Influence: Honor of Elites, Western Wall: Demand the rebels surrender and swear fealty once again to their rightful lord! (Narrative%. 1 year, +Influence, Casus Belli if failed)
    -[X] Influence: Push Kus Numerals: Sponsor some programs to educate people in Kus numerals. (99%, 3 years, +success chance for actions involving kus numerals.)
    -[X] Personal: Attend to a particular action personally. (Provides bonus to action)
    --[X] Activate The Mass Levy!:
    [X] Plan Introspection
    -[X] Influence & Influence: Activate The Mass Levy!: Arm and mobilize up to a million soldiers. The earth quakes at your approach. None can stand against the might of The People. (85%. 1 year. Success and length of campaign rolled separately. Possible influence gains or losses depending on result. Unsustainably expensive)
    --[X] Black Sheep & Western Wall
    -[X] Influence: Rage Against The Steppes!: Demand the Black Sheep savages surrender and abandon their oppression of the people of the Thunder Plateau. (Narrative%. 1 year. +Influence)
    -[X] Influence: Honor of Elites, Western Wall: Demand the rebels surrender and swear fealty once again to their rightful lord! (Narrative%. 1 year, +Influence, Casus Belli if failed)
    -[X] Influence: Survey Memory of Spirits Province: Memory of Spirits has been surveyed many times, but technology and the skill of surveyors is always improving. It might be possible to find something of use there. (???%. 1 Year. Resources?)
    -[X] Personal: Attend to a particular action personally. (Provides bonus to action)
    --[X] Activate The Mass Levy!:
 
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