Hence install a friendly AI, not set up shop there.
Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest
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Hence install a friendly AI, not set up shop there.
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We've seen it suggested that having emotions is part of what makes a soul chaos resistant.
Creating a new AI in a barren, boring system thus avoids the problem of Vita going stircrazy, by replacing it with the friend AI going crazy.
So we should leave a newly made AI. A sapient being, to watch over an empty shipyard that we may or may not come back to with nothing to do. I don't know about you but that seems like a very quick way for Chaos to get itself a new high tech ai run shipyard shields or no. Far better to just put the shipyard in an inhabited, friendly system and let it be useful and not go mad through lacking interaction. That would also help keep the friendly port/system alive.
Edit: Besides, we can't even get too a star system that is 'off the grid' so to speak. Even with a Void Abacus, we are still limited to systems reachable by the warp lanes. There isn't going to be any visitable systems that only we can get too. Which makes the ability to set up a hidden shipyard even more of a hassle.
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Insult Everyone!
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I mean, we could also just program the new AI with no need for social stimulation like P much all the non-social animals out there.
But then again, not good for fun, so... Mebbeh?
But then again, not good for fun, so... Mebbeh?
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do we have to give Thalya a report for turn 9?
are we going to continued subversion of mechanicus acolytes?
are we going to continued subversion of mechanicus acolytes?
Yeah, I mean not all AI are Vita, you could just program one not to be social and find enjoyment in solitude and contemplation. I imagine the DAOT had plenty of AI that weren't maverick explorers
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In our defence, we have only four actions per turn and a lot to spend them on.
As I understand the update, our new augments are much nicer than default mechanicus.(May need a research for proper mechadendrite with tools, but that should be doable)
Oh, and if they install our augments, they'd be installing something manufactured by us.
And I'll call back to this qm statement on hacking techpriests:
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I wonder how the Mechanicus Acolytes who found and solved our puzzles are doing?
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[ ] Plan need a shell!
-[ ]Diplomacy: Shooshing the Mechanicus
--[ ] Alright, the Mechanicus is getting out of hand; a ground based weapons arsenal, weapon satellites in orbit, and a giant secret space station?! Good grief! Regardless, it's time to send your report and with your recent breakthrough in machine spirits that are more cooperative, you can offer the blueprints to them(with a backdoor of course) in exchange, you'll need some servitors and some servo skulls, explaining you lost some to a collapse when the rocks prove to be more loose than expected. You should also talk to the other enclaves to see if you can make any allies there as well as check up on your 'students'.
-[ ] Research (200RP)
--[ ] 100 RP - Medium Void-shield installation (1000 BP, 50 CP)
--[ ] Small-craft Stealth (100 RP)
-[ ] Construction X2 (1100+1100=2200BP)
--[ ] Medium Void-shield installation, camouflaged (2000 BP, 50 CP)
--[ ] Manufactory X2 (200 BP, 100 CP) Built at the mine site
-[] Anexa passive action: Education - Roll to level, difficulty is DC20 (10+5Xlevel)
-[ ]Diplomacy: Shooshing the Mechanicus
--[ ] Alright, the Mechanicus is getting out of hand; a ground based weapons arsenal, weapon satellites in orbit, and a giant secret space station?! Good grief! Regardless, it's time to send your report and with your recent breakthrough in machine spirits that are more cooperative, you can offer the blueprints to them(with a backdoor of course) in exchange, you'll need some servitors and some servo skulls, explaining you lost some to a collapse when the rocks prove to be more loose than expected. You should also talk to the other enclaves to see if you can make any allies there as well as check up on your 'students'.
-[ ] Research (200RP)
--[ ] 100 RP - Medium Void-shield installation (1000 BP, 50 CP)
--[ ] Small-craft Stealth (100 RP)
-[ ] Construction X2 (1100+1100=2200BP)
--[ ] Medium Void-shield installation, camouflaged (2000 BP, 50 CP)
--[ ] Manufactory X2 (200 BP, 100 CP) Built at the mine site
-[] Anexa passive action: Education - Roll to level, difficulty is DC20 (10+5Xlevel)
Insult Everyone!
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I don´t think we actually can do that to machine spirits without the special machine spirit research.
Just noticed the edit:
We do not need a place that is off the grid, just one that is known not to have anything of note. Lifeless worlds not resource rich enough for the Imperium to have any use for but which we can get something out of with our superior tech and ability to operate machines in vacuum on the cheap.
We do not need a place that is off the grid, just one that is known not to have anything of note. Lifeless worlds not resource rich enough for the Imperium to have any use for but which we can get something out of with our superior tech and ability to operate machines in vacuum on the cheap.
Let's back up a bit, the way you're talking about this seems like your saying that we shouldn't bother building up the locals and just stick to an out of the way system. My question is why? Vita is going to want interaction (and goes insane without it) and while expeditions are one way to get that, I really doubt that she (in character) will want to just abandon the local human polity without leaving them a way to defend themselves. Regardless of any future hidden bases, our first and likely largest shipyard/infrastructure will likely be in this system.
We are going to have plenty of interaction with them because we are stuck here with the ad mech unknowingly holding them hostage in a way that forces us into secrecy. My point is we should not try to build advanced DAOT infrastructure next to these people because them being here is no way a bonus to said infrastructure while it will put them in danger by making the system more attractive to all sorts of unsavory people. By all means we should give them the means to return to the stars, but nothing that screams 'secrets of lost technology'. That is another reason I want to talk to the Craftworlders, they are powerful enough and skilled enough at hiding that we can give them the good stuff without doing more harm than good.
If we find some kind of multi-sector iconoclast polity and we somehow develop much better shielding then we can consider an uplift to far above imperial tech and counting on them for our infrastructure. In the meantime any bases we plan to return to regularly should be hidden in my opinion.
So you deliberately want to hold people back when we're in a Sector with a Space Marine Chapter, a Tyranid Splinter Fleet, an Awakened Necron Tombworld and a Demon World (and Aeldari, but unless this is a Maiden World they shouldn't care that much about this world) and 2 other powers that we don't know about? Nah man, fuck that. If any of the above find Denva Secundus with it just having basic Imperial Tech they're going to McFucking die. They need all the help they can get if they want to stand a chance at surviving if they're found.
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So, just a thought, but with some better grounding in physics and some research into the warp and psytech, wouldn't it be possible to use a mix of quantum mechanics and Einsteins mass-energy equivalence equation allow us to make matter from energy siphoned off from the warp?
I could see us eventually making exotic matter that doesn't manifest naturaly that way.
I could see us eventually making exotic matter that doesn't manifest naturaly that way.
They are going to McFucking die anyway, with the Tyranids and the Necrons that will be the end of it, but Chaos and the Imperium will also loot the tech. The question isn't what can we give this one world to hold off 'a Space Marine Chapter, a Tyranid Splinter Fleet, an Awakened Necron Tombworld and a Demon World' because the answer to that is nothing flat, it's how do we help them hide and 'can we find someone more capable of absorbing a major tech transfer before they are found and killed?'.
The only thing that might change those odds is AI, but
A) They would not take AI because of left over imperial prejudices
B) Our shielding isn't good enough to stand up to the attention of Chaos which they would get if they start expanding with that
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I think the theory should be sound but there are only two ways I can think to so so.
- Pull warp-stuff into real space, otherwise known as a warp rift therefore daemons.
- Open your Geller Field while in the warp therefore daemons.
No,I don't think we need anyone else than that anexa girl
I mean we are going to need non-bridge crew, we cannot just have everyone be hero/officers and robots. Someone at some point is going to ask that the enlisted take off their helmets, so in that sense yeah, we care because we need them in the long run not just right now.
Alectai
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I think the point is trying to force a schism in the Mechanicus between the old fossils and the people who actually do the work, so we can get ears on the inside and hopefully some cadre of trained technicians when the dust clears. I don't think there's any saving the old monsters at this point, but they don't all have to die.