Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest
- Thread starter Neablis
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Do you see "per turn" in that analysis? I don't. I see "per action", in fact.
OMC operated warp ships will need crews aboard or in-system, but that doesn't mean they need the living space modification. A cabin for an OMC team can be had free. (Remember remote OMC is a late add-on. Denva didn't even have it until we came back.)
F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
- Shetland
Maybe but I'd prefer for Neablis to clear this up since the wording on living space is:
So I'm a bit puzzled over whether or not it's needed even for an OMC crew.
- Location
- Boston
Apologies for only getting to this after voting started.
That kind of organization might develop on its own over time, but you'd be able to speed it up and shape what it looks like (including "they all join the secret intelligence service W runs").
Good questions, if a bit annoying to try to make consistent rules for. The answers to questions 1-4 are all yes. As for the rest of it - I'll allow you to "just" upgrade it to psychic encryption by adding new shielding to the max. Remember, the conversion from BP to HP is 5 BP = 1 HP.
You might be able to set up something closer to a "psychic academy" on Denva itself, instead of the current Monastery practice of repressing their powers. Part of that would probably include the graduates of that academy becoming part of a broader Denvan society, either in the military or medical or whatever else.
That kind of organization might develop on its own over time, but you'd be able to speed it up and shape what it looks like (including "they all join the secret intelligence service W runs").
Naw. You choose what you want to do, I'm not going to impose a cap on Crew from one place. It's increasingly looking like Denva is going to be your home base for a long time, so that means it's appropriate for your crew to be mostly Denvans.
Hmm. You can just leave them in the brig.
Nope, because it's like 5-10 people, not thousands. Basically free to include an apartment suite's worth of space instead of lodging and infrastructure for thousands. So I've abstracted away the cost as basically just adding some walls & stuff to the bridge.
Done, quite a while ago: Post in thread 'Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest' Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest Mature - Sci-Fi
- Location
- colombia
[X] Plan Understanding Bongo
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Research Expansion
i been clear on my stance since quest begining,i wanna get the '101' package done,this plan progress 2 of the 3 leftover points,leaving the ''perfect the tripwires" for another turn while also progress either our AI research or our industrial capabilities
either is fine by me
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Research Expansion
i been clear on my stance since quest begining,i wanna get the '101' package done,this plan progress 2 of the 3 leftover points,leaving the ''perfect the tripwires" for another turn while also progress either our AI research or our industrial capabilities
either is fine by me
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[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
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[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
Hey @Neablis, is that old option of putting our captives into a medically induced coma to prevent sacrifice shenanigans like what happened this turn still valid now that we have Drugs? Mostly asking so it's clear for plan makers, and in case you say there's some other downside to doing it that wasn't previously brought up.
Anyways, plan boom. I like booms! @LightLan , I mostly like your plan. I have one... not so small issue with it, however. And it's not the cultist handover, though changing that over to comas if Neablis ok's it would be appreciated.
No, it's that if we're getting a diviner, particularly if we're hoping for the diviner Avatar rolled, then I am not certain this is investing enough towards that. Certainly, it's surprising that you're not using that 20RP going towards IC to at least sand off Faith to an even 50 RP left so it'll be easier to get it next turn, but frankly, faith itself is one of the cheaper options available for improving safety - it explicitly provides options for improved psyker training.
Cia busted our old lab, and she's still merely Epsilon. This new girl is going to be Delta, if an omake re-roll doesn't push her even higher than that.
I am uncertain that we are ready for an untrained delta having perils of the warp. If you're not making the Candle MK II, I strongly suggest swapping out Cramming and completing Faith instead, while directing runoff to Basic Psychic Suppression Devices.
I mean, there's mood regulators too, I guess. But that's 100 RP and I'm not sure how much it helps if we're picking up max sanity psykers... though, I suppose they would have helped Cia during her Dark Summoning peril, so there's that.
Separate from research... since Neablis just said you need to max out the shield to refit it for full psy encryption, Cia is on assignment, and new girl won't roll for perils this turn, you may want to just stuff the oubliette full of BP instead? Or the lab itself if you want to favor protecting Cia in case her roll affects her anyways.
Hm.
Hey @Neablis, is that old option of putting our captives into a medically induced coma to prevent sacrifice shenanigans like what happened this turn still valid now that we have Drugs? Mostly asking so it's clear for plan makers, and in case you say there's some other downside to doing it that wasn't previously brought up.
Anyways, plan boom. I like booms! @LightLan , I mostly like your plan. I have one... not so small issue with it, however. And it's not the cultist handover, though changing that over to comas if Neablis ok's it would be appreciated.
No, it's that if we're getting a diviner, particularly if we're hoping for the diviner Avatar rolled, then I am not certain this is investing enough towards that. Certainly, it's surprising that you're not using that 20RP going towards IC to at least sand off Faith to an even 50 RP left so it'll be easier to get it next turn, but frankly, faith itself is one of the cheaper options available for improving safety - it explicitly provides options for improved psyker training.
Cia busted our old lab, and she's still merely Epsilon. This new girl is going to be Delta, if an omake re-roll doesn't push her even higher than that.
I am uncertain that we are ready for an untrained delta having perils of the warp. If you're not making the Candle MK II, I strongly suggest swapping out Cramming and completing Faith instead, while directing runoff to Basic Psychic Suppression Devices.
I mean, there's mood regulators too, I guess. But that's 100 RP and I'm not sure how much it helps if we're picking up max sanity psykers... though, I suppose they would have helped Cia during her Dark Summoning peril, so there's that.
Separate from research... since Neablis just said you need to max out the shield to refit it for full psy encryption, Cia is on assignment, and new girl won't roll for perils this turn, you may want to just stuff the oubliette full of BP instead? Or the lab itself if you want to favor protecting Cia in case her roll affects her anyways.
Hm.
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- Outside the Box
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@Prime 2.0 I'd vote for a plan variant that switches out Cramming for Faith.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
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- Location
- Planet Earth, North America
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
Work today annihilated my spine, so I'll be doing substantial writing for the Delta Divination psyker omake tomorrow. After I recover, with the help of ibuprofen.
Work today annihilated my spine, so I'll be doing substantial writing for the Delta Divination psyker omake tomorrow. After I recover, with the help of ibuprofen.
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- Location
- florida
While not remarked upon. We did witness an important psychic technology here.
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[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Research Expansion
[X] Plan: Keep Calm and Carry On
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Research Expansion
[X] Plan: Keep Calm and Carry On
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- She/Her
[X] Plan: Nova cannons, muzzle Bongo, research Faith.
-[X] Idea: Ships! Ships now! We are shockingly vulnerable with only a single ship in orbit. Let's fix this. Short-term build some candles and longer term do research to design and build new and better ships with better weapons soon. Make a slight detour into demonology to muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Construction (600 VBP + 7800 Aetherion MS manus + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 9650 BP / 1000 BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
--[X] Captive Holding cells 41/50 HP -> 50/50 HP [45 BP Repair Bay]
--[X] Aetherion Shipyard repair (2814 BP)
--[X] Candle x 6 [use existing hulls to discount] (6000 BP)
---[X] turn over all the candles to Denva Secundus, because we do not have the personnel for them
--[X] Increase Psy Lab Shielding from 135 to 200 (325 BP). Cia blew up the lab last time when it had only 135 shielding and she got stronger since then. Add some more shields.
--[X] Increase Bongo Shielding from 540 to 640 and also actually get some of that scrying blocking shielding in his vault (500 BP)
--[X] Personal force weapon for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] Personal Void Shield for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] 1 BP left
--[X] 955 BP Repair Bay left, use for incoming damage on psychic shields due to demonology research
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[X] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[X] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Faith is My Shield? (15/75 -> 75/75 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (60 RP Overflow)
-[X][Free] Turn over Abacus Technology, Improved Gellar Fields and star charts over to Denva to earn a boon
-[X][Boon] Recruit a Diviner Psyker
-[X][Free] Turn over cultist prisoners to Denva
-[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building - Defends against hostile covert action and improves relations with existing allies, as well as gathering information for making new allies. Will only level if something interesting happens.
-[X] Cia: Assist with Demonology research. E.g. to "banish" demons before we figure out how
Basic change made to the leading plan, exchanging Efficient Equipment Distribution for finishing the Faith research, and putting the extra 40 RP into further progressing Intelligence Coding. Faith might be really useful for Psyker safety, among other things, and we're recruiting a very powerful Diviner. Plus it's good to work towards finishing all our half-completed research.
As for not finishing Efficient Equipment Distribution this turn? Unless researching the prerequisites immediately gives us Nova Canons, we're not going to be designing new, Nova Canon-equipped ships next turn, but the turn after.
Edit: Switched to @Prime 2.0 's more comprehensive plan changes on the next page.
-[X] Idea: Ships! Ships now! We are shockingly vulnerable with only a single ship in orbit. Let's fix this. Short-term build some candles and longer term do research to design and build new and better ships with better weapons soon. Make a slight detour into demonology to muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Construction (600 VBP + 7800 Aetherion MS manus + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 9650 BP / 1000 BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
--[X] Captive Holding cells 41/50 HP -> 50/50 HP [45 BP Repair Bay]
--[X] Aetherion Shipyard repair (2814 BP)
--[X] Candle x 6 [use existing hulls to discount] (6000 BP)
---[X] turn over all the candles to Denva Secundus, because we do not have the personnel for them
--[X] Increase Psy Lab Shielding from 135 to 200 (325 BP). Cia blew up the lab last time when it had only 135 shielding and she got stronger since then. Add some more shields.
--[X] Increase Bongo Shielding from 540 to 640 and also actually get some of that scrying blocking shielding in his vault (500 BP)
--[X] Personal force weapon for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] Personal Void Shield for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] 1 BP left
--[X] 955 BP Repair Bay left, use for incoming damage on psychic shields due to demonology research
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[X] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[X] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Faith is My Shield? (15/75 -> 75/75 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (60 RP Overflow)
-[X][Free] Turn over Abacus Technology, Improved Gellar Fields and star charts over to Denva to earn a boon
-[X][Boon] Recruit a Diviner Psyker
-[X][Free] Turn over cultist prisoners to Denva
-[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building - Defends against hostile covert action and improves relations with existing allies, as well as gathering information for making new allies. Will only level if something interesting happens.
-[X] Cia: Assist with Demonology research. E.g. to "banish" demons before we figure out how
Basic change made to the leading plan, exchanging Efficient Equipment Distribution for finishing the Faith research, and putting the extra 40 RP into further progressing Intelligence Coding. Faith might be really useful for Psyker safety, among other things, and we're recruiting a very powerful Diviner. Plus it's good to work towards finishing all our half-completed research.
As for not finishing Efficient Equipment Distribution this turn? Unless researching the prerequisites immediately gives us Nova Canons, we're not going to be designing new, Nova Canon-equipped ships next turn, but the turn after.
Edit: Switched to @Prime 2.0 's more comprehensive plan changes on the next page.
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[X] Plan: Nova cannons, muzzle Bongo, research Faith.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Understanding Bongo
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan Understanding Bongo
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
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