Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest

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Dmol8 said:
We won't be able to fully be sure of that until we get a method of measuring corruption so I'm still going to keep an eye on Cia. Just in case.
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No, I mean, it is literally a Psychic Phenomena effect taken directly out of the 40K RPs.

There are Phenomena effects that cause Corruption Points, but Phenomena for the most part is spooky bullshit and momentary irritations, and even the stuff that does give Corruption tends to be small numbers. Banshee Howl is not one of them. It deals so little that it's functionally not worth tracking, if it does any at all.
 
Alectai said:
No, I mean, it is literally a Psychic Phenomena effect taken directly out of the 40K RPs.

There are Phenomena effects that cause Corruption Points, but Phenomena for the most part is spooky bullshit and momentary irritations, and even the stuff that does give Corruption tends to be small numbers. Banshee Howl is not one of them. It deals so little that it's functionally not worth tracking, if it does any at all.
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Uh @Alectai? Why are you saying that Banshee's Howl doesn't give Corruption Points and then saying that it deals so little Corruption that it's functionally not worth tracking?

In how @Neablis is running this quest if Banshee's Howl doesn't give Corruption Points on the tabletop then it is not Corruptive. Simple as that. What you said here just plain confused me for a bit there.
 
Dmol8 said:
Uh @Alectai? Why are you saying that Banshee's Howl doesn't give Corruption Points and then saying that it deals so little Corruption that it's functionally not worth tracking?

In how @Neablis is running this quest if Banshee's Howl doesn't give Corruption Points on the tabletop then it is not Corruptive. Simple as that. What you said here just plain confused me for a bit there.
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I'm saying that the rules it's drawn from don't make it give Corruption. We're not measuring it that closely I don't think here, but even If Neablis is running a Corruption system, this is not an event that would have provided a measurable value of it.
 
Alectai said:
I'm saying that the rules it's drawn from don't make it give Corruption. We're not measuring it that closely I don't think here, but even If Neablis is running a Corruption system, this is not an event that would have provided a measurable value of it.
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And I'm saying you worded that so poorly in your previous post that I had to stop and think about how this quest works to be able to come to the same conclusion. Hence me talking about how your post confused me there for a bit.
 
Angle said:
...Why doesn't it? They both connect to Ascalon. And what do you mean by 'long loop'?
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Because if we go to Caldereth and then to Vorthryn, we're adjacent to two places we've already been, so we cannot do a one-move-and-explore into a new system. If we go to Vorthryn and then to Caldereth, we're next to two places we've already been and one place we haven't. So we can then have the option to explore into Aestron. Which is still only three jumps from Denva.
 
Aineko said:
Because if we go to Caldereth and then to Vorthryn, we're adjacent to two places we've already been, so we cannot do a one-move-and-explore into a new system. If we go to Vorthryn and then to Caldereth, we're next to two places we've already been and one place we haven't. So we can then have the option to explore into Aestron. Which is still only three jumps from Denva.
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Ahhh. Well I don't want to go any farther away than Vorthryn and Caldereth anyway...
 
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It's funny that we still call psychic shields psychic shields when they are developing into more of an all purpose psychic organ. Not only can we sense through them, but we can speak through them as well once we get alternative meanings done. Hell if we manage to crit Warp Weather prediction (which is a 40% chance now with Anexa on the job and might be higher by the time we do it) Vita will have effectively developed technomantic divination.
 
DragonParadox said:
I do not think we should poke the webway. We want the Eldar to stay friendly.
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Concur entirely.

We got great data out of poking the webway with the sensors we have - and the new empathic sensors proved their use.

If we go poke the webway without transiting up close - the most likely way to get practical information out of it - we're probably just going to torque off a craftworld. At that point, the best case is they hire a corsair to come after us - maybe even our friend - and the options get worse from there.

Please, SV, do not the webway. We can come back (or scan another gate) when we have upgraded sensors (beyond the point the Eldar realize we can see). Turns out, the same tech that lets us kick the Drukhari teeth in will let us snoop the webway.
 
Aineko said:
What great data? We got a little imagery and nothing we can learn anything from.

I'm not saying we should take another run at it, but in what way is the data great?
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If I read it right, we proved the efficacy of the Emotion sensors and saw the use-case transition. We also saw that we couldn't see it without something transiting it.

Demonstrating what works and when - and, crucially, what the limits of your abilities are - is good data to me.
 
DragonParadox said:
It's funny that we still call psychic shields psychic shields when they are developing into more of an all purpose psychic organ. Not only can we sense through them, but we can speak through them as well once we get alternative meanings done. Hell if we manage to crit Warp Weather prediction (which is a 40% chance now with Anexa on the job and might be higher by the time we do it) Vita will have effectively developed technomantic divination.
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Yes. And? Like our psychic shields are undergoing embryonic differentiation. Good to know. How many shielding/psytech types do we have right now?

Cause from my point of view our psychic shields so far are only differentiating down the skin/nerve embryonic line.

Edit: The proper term is Ectoderm. So far our psychic shields are behaving like Ectodermal cells with each research action differentiating them down Ectodermal lines of bionic development. Can they also function as mechanical Warp Mesoderm and/or Endoderm Cells?

Or do we need different research subjects for that?
 
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Nightlord256 said:
I really like this, it has two clear objectives and makes really good progress on both of them. While I am a fan of more exploration, I'd be willing to stick around one more turn for this.

It also got me thinking about tighter plan focuses in general while I was gaming. Which led me to a plan focused on Cia and Bongo:

[] Plan: Faustian Bargains 101 - with Prof. Bongo
-[] Research: 3x (600 + 70 +42 = 712 RP)
--[] Basic Psychic weapons (150 RP)
--[] Basic Pyromantic understanding (100 RP)
--[] Faith is my shield? (75 RP)
--[] Scrapcode Immunity (100 RP)
--[] Demonology (150 RP)
--[] Improved Gellar Fields (90RP)
--[] 47 RP floating ??
-[] Explore: Vorthryn

I'm still chewing on this myself, but figured I'd toss it up before clocking out for the night.
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It might make sense to throw those last 47 RP into Complex Genetic Enhancement we are going to need it to grow the Navigator.
 
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