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I've been reading through this for awhile. And recently while reading a let's read found out that their is apparently supposed to be a Successor state (at least according to Rumford) from the start of the collapse that stretches along the Rockies called Libertas.
They aren't really mentioned after the start of the collapse and I wonder if they existed.
They probably fell apart into smaller and smaller splinter factions of rural libertarian militias, as is the natural trajectory of batshit right-anarchist heavily armed bandits who hunt feral cattle on land they assert is theirs ranchers.
 
I'm suddenly reminded of @EBR's post from Stars and Stripes Forever about the "American Overseas Republic".

How many American expatriate and refugee communities are out there still flying the old Stars and Stripes? How many ex-embassy staffers and ambassadors became community representatives?
 
I've been reading through this for awhile. And recently while reading a let's read found out that their is apparently supposed to be a Successor state (at least according to Rumford) from the start of the collapse that stretches along the Rockies called Libertas.
They aren't really mentioned after the start of the collapse and I wonder if they existed.
IIRC any infrastructure that would allow for serious power projection across the Rockies was withered or had been destroyed for a long while as of the quest start- it is one of the explicit starting disadvantages of the New California Republic faction during chargen. This would necessarily be existentially catastrophic to any successor state stretching along the Rockies, since they'd end up being split in half.

It's plausible that there was some sort of robber-baron type of polity shortly after the Collapse that derived it's power from tolls on people crossing the Rockies that called themselves Libertas, but I suspect that there was never enough traffic that said extracted tolls would be enough to maintain the economic burden of keeping the passes open. So they would have been living on a very small amount of borrowed time even if there wasn't any external pressures - which the Pacific War definitely demonstrates there being.
 
So are our older energy sources completely decommissioned or just mothballed as a contingency? Because we can always convince the CAF that if they want to protect their investment, that we need every advantage against Victoria, reminding them that the Victorians would be far less receptive to the CAF and could easily try to undo all your hard work in the event of a military victory.
 
Non-Canon Omake: Hebel’s Herd
Hebel sat on the front stoop of the chapel, and looked out across the field at his flock. His herding dog, Snzzules, was out there making sure nobody went astray. Calmly enjoying the cool breeze as the mixed herd of sheep and goats grazed on the fields. Hebel looked behind him at the chapel and the strange collapsed structure next to it. Remnants of the old nation he heard stories about from his grandparents, and parents. His parents are a bit too young to remember as much as their parents, but they remember it more clearly. They tried to pass on what they could to him to "keep the legacy of our ancestors". Things such as reading and writing.

There was writing all over the place, on the building, on a rock close by, and on a sign. Hebel could read some of it. Like the chapel he was sitting in was called the "US center chapel". A strange name for a chapel he was told, but that's where he was sitting. The dead center of the old nation. The old heartland of a nation of 350 million people give or take a few. That number astounded Hebel everytime he remembered it. His village only had about a hundred people, he couldn't imagine a million filling this land. That's more people than heads of sheep and goats in all the herds he has seen in his life combined. But it was just an amusing thought to him. Passing him by as the wind does over the great plains of Kansas.

Relics like this chapel lay dead and silent all over his village of Lebanon. His favorite was the old Lebanon library. Full of dusty tomes and books from before the collapse. They had all sorts of interesting stories about the old world. Like the one he was reading now while watching his flock, a book called "The Girl Who Owned a City" which is about some disease wiping out all adults and the children need to survive in the aftermath. It was his favorite book when he was younger and more rebellious towards "the adults". Now he was rereading it to remember the details of why he loved it in the first place all those years ago.

Some books even had schematics and diagrams of some of the relics around town. Like the giant metal towers called silos on the south side of the village. Or some that explained how cars and tractors worked. Apparently his village used to be solely a farming village until all of the relics ran out of oil. Then they turned to herding. Hebel knows the relics aren't all disused heaps of scrap lying by the side of the road. Down south, the interstate highway was still partly used and maintained by local communities as best they could using dirt, gravel, and sheer tenacity. Traders from far off lands such as Denver or Kansas City travel that route mainly to get the wool and milk communities like Hebels produce. His parents still remember using cars before the last of the oil in Kansas was used. Nowadays they have a few horses they use to travel south to the Russell trading post on the 70 where he can watch the occasional cart lead caravan limp into town.

His parents told him many stories of before the collapse and after. Stories of dangerous lands to both the east and the west. Heroes of the old nation that tried their best to fight both, and ultimately were betrayed by their neighbors. Hebel couldn't imagine hating his neighbors enough to betray them like in the stories. Surely nobody could actually be as hateful and misguided from God's Love as these mythical "Victorians" were. It was probably just a bunch of scary stories used to keep him from running too far off into the plains and getting lost. The only neighbor he was even close to hating was Jebbadiah. The fool kept trying to steal wool from his sheep, saying he got the herds mixed up. Bah whatever, he will get his comeuppance at the christmas festival this year. Hebel is planning a special prank for him involving his precious wool and some superglue he found in an old shed that will be sure to get him good.
 
The fool kept trying to steal wool from his sheep, saying he got the herds mixed up. Bah whatever, he will get his comeuppance at the christmas festival this year. Hebel is planning a special prank for him involving his precious wool and some superglue he found in an old shed that will be sure to get him good.
You know, some people just spray paint on their sheep.
 
You know, some people just spray paint on their sheep.
Spray paint probably is not being produced anymore/easily accessible to shepards in bumfuck nowhere, and this is just an example of the low tech living style that people off in the middle of nowhere america are living like right now after decades of tech collapse.
 
There are other ways to mark your sheep. I don't think people normally brand them like cattle, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Then again, maybe this guy hasn't thought of that, though if so then he's... a bit of a dreamer.

Honestly I'm surprised they don't have someone watching the sheep full-time, that's kind of an important aspect of pastoral lifestyle.
 
There are other ways to mark your sheep. I don't think people normally brand them like cattle, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Then again, maybe this guy hasn't thought of that, though if so then he's... a bit of a dreamer.

Honestly I'm surprised they don't have someone watching the sheep full-time, that's kind of an important aspect of pastoral lifestyle.
He is suppose to be the one watching the sheep full-time is the problem, it gets boring out on the plains
 
Hebel sat on the front stoop of the chapel, and looked out across the field at his flock. His herding dog, Snzzules, was out there making sure nobody went astray. Calmly enjoying the cool breeze as the mixed herd of sheep and goats grazed on the fields. Hebel looked behind him at the chapel and the strange collapsed structure next to it. Remnants of the old nation he heard stories about from his grandparents, and parents. His parents are a bit too young to remember as much as their parents, but they remember it more clearly. They tried to pass on what they could to him to "keep the legacy of our ancestors". Things such as reading and writing.

There was writing all over the place, on the building, on a rock close by, and on a sign. Hebel could read some of it. Like the chapel he was sitting in was called the "US center chapel". A strange name for a chapel he was told, but that's where he was sitting. The dead center of the old nation. The old heartland of a nation of 350 million people give or take a few. That number astounded Hebel everytime he remembered it. His village only had about a hundred people, he couldn't imagine a million filling this land. That's more people than heads of sheep and goats in all the herds he has seen in his life combined. But it was just an amusing thought to him. Passing him by as the wind does over the great plains of Kansas.

Relics like this chapel lay dead and silent all over his village of Lebanon. His favorite was the old Lebanon library. Full of dusty tomes and books from before the collapse. They had all sorts of interesting stories about the old world. Like the one he was reading now while watching his flock, a book called "The Girl Who Owned a City" which is about some disease wiping out all adults and the children need to survive in the aftermath. It was his favorite book when he was younger and more rebellious towards "the adults". Now he was rereading it to remember the details of why he loved it in the first place all those years ago.

Some books even had schematics and diagrams of some of the relics around town. Like the giant metal towers called silos on the south side of the village. Or some that explained how cars and tractors worked. Apparently his village used to be solely a farming village until all of the relics ran out of oil. Then they turned to herding. Hebel knows the relics aren't all disused heaps of scrap lying by the side of the road. Down south, the interstate highway was still partly used and maintained by local communities as best they could using dirt, gravel, and sheer tenacity. Traders from far off lands such as Denver or Kansas City travel that route mainly to get the wool and milk communities like Hebels produce. His parents still remember using cars before the last of the oil in Kansas was used. Nowadays they have a few horses they use to travel south to the Russell trading post on the 70 where he can watch the occasional cart lead caravan limp into town.

His parents told him many stories of before the collapse and after. Stories of dangerous lands to both the east and the west. Heroes of the old nation that tried their best to fight both, and ultimately were betrayed by their neighbors. Hebel couldn't imagine hating his neighbors enough to betray them like in the stories. Surely nobody could actually be as hateful and misguided from God's Love as these mythical "Victorians" were. It was probably just a bunch of scary stories used to keep him from running too far off into the plains and getting lost. The only neighbor he was even close to hating was Jebbadiah. The fool kept trying to steal wool from his sheep, saying he got the herds mixed up. Bah whatever, he will get his comeuppance at the christmas festival this year. Hebel is planning a special prank for him involving his precious wool and some superglue he found in an old shed that will be sure to get him good.
Very nice! Non-canon for a few reasons, but I like the snapshot of life in the pastoralist communities springing up on the Great Plains. I also really appreciate the emphasis you put of literacy; there's a strong cultural tradition of valuing it in America, so it has been passed down in reduced form through families even in the absence of public schooling — but even with that, for many communities the reasons to spend all that time and energy on developing the skill are getting fewer and further between.

Nicely done!
 
What vehicles are being made for the plan just pickup trucks and whatever else we can scavenge or are we building what ever old vehicle blueprints that we can trade and beg for from foreign Nations?
 
Very nice! Non-canon for a few reasons, but I like the snapshot of life in the pastoralist communities springing up on the Great Plains. I also really appreciate the emphasis you put of literacy; there's a strong cultural tradition of valuing it in America, so it has been passed down in reduced form through families even in the absence of public schooling — but even with that, for many communities the reasons to spend all that time and energy on developing the skill are getting fewer and further between.

Nicely done!
Hey Poptart, how is the progress with the next chapter of the story?
 
Wonder if Stephen King made it out.

Chances are he was either killed by the CMC or died of old age in FCNY (with his last will stating his wish to be reinterred once Victoria - well, falls).
 
Fair chance he dies of old age before they fully take over.

By 2027 he'll be eighty years old, and the CMC doesn't even really start to engage in widespread terrorism that would let them start forming kill lists of random civilians until 2028-30 or so at the earliest.

There's no CMC-controlled government in New England as such until 2033. And even then (if I recall correctly) there's still a superficially "normal" government being influenced by the CMC behind the scenes as they gather strength for a purge to eliminate moderates from the state.

The really intense purging and rewriting of history doesn't begin until 2035-36 at the earliest, by which point King is pushing 90. Unless there's something important about King that I don't know, it's fairly likely that the CMC would be deterred from deliberately killing him by his reputation until such time as he dies of natural causes. Worst case they'd probably just put him under house arrest and not let him publish anything or use the Internet they're already rapidly cutting off from their own territory.

The mask-off fully totalitarian agrarian dystopia of the Victoria we are now fighting doesn't really... exist... until the very late 2030s.
 
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