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Step one of parenting force children. Training begins when the tantrums end. So after emotional maturity but before teenager. Or after teenage rebellion settles. Martial arts and meditation as a way to build discipline and emotional stability are a good foundation for actual training later in life.
 
tomer3392 said:
Maybe the MC should do an episode about raising force sensitives babies/toddlers/children for dummies, with representatives of light side force sects that give examples on how to make sure little Timmy will not start shooting force lightning because mommy and daddy refused to give him a cookie, also I hope the author would think about my body cam idea as it can be a cool story arc in my opinion.
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Considering it usually seems to require an active Force User to jump start another Force Abilities I don't think Little Timmy is going to be that much of a problem. The problem starts when they don't require another's aid. Usually, though those kids are rare and about as subtle as a brick.
 
Fallout5368 said:
Considering it usually seems to require an active Force User to jump start another Force Abilities I don't think Little Timmy is going to be that much of a problem. The problem starts when they don't require another's aid. Usually, though those kids are rare and about as subtle as a brick.
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Not with families training their force connection as a bounding family activity, at some point little Timmy will become sensitive just like his parents.
 
...Guys, gals and everything in between, given the amount of training it takes to get Force powers into a workable state. There's very little chance that someone can, without a mentor, discover more than one or two force abilities.

I would bet the Mind Trick, as asshole-ish as it is, was an adapted Sith technique learned by reverse engineering a defense then figuring out how it works. I doubt very much that someone just randomly figures out how to Mind Trick without help. Though the knowledge that the technique exists will inevitably cause it to reappear as people try to rediscover it.
 
Fencer said:
Yeah, that's canon to this story. I just cannot imagine every or even most parents approached going yeah sure I carried this kid for 9 months, we renovated the house and are already filling up the baby album but sure you can have them when they turn two or three and raise them and we'll be perfectly ok with never seeing them again. We'll just have another.
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I sort of assumed that a lot of those cases where the parents give up the kid so easily are more do to the fact that the kids natural force inclinations were obvious and dangerous to both the kid and the family. I imagine that most of those given up kids have telekinetic abilities unlocked or worse low level and inconsistent abilities with mental abilities. All it would take is little Billy going 'want' shiny and pulling a knife towards him for a responsible adult to call the temple. Worse little Suzy pulling off a weak force suggestion and only getting one parent consistently.

Honestly the most disturbing example of giving the kid up for their own good I could give would be Cal Kestis. Having Psychometry as a small child likely would really screw with you. How many people have an old candle stick, wrench, or the like in their possession little Cal touches it and suddenly at the age of two or three witnesses someone using that object to beat someone to death. Giving the kid to the temple would likely be a mercy, they can afford to give him completely new and unused objects until they can teach him how to restrain his power.

Being able to run faster, be more physically resilient, learn easily, or overall more healthy are the kids who get held on to.

Anakin is sort of an odd duck in that he pulled an advanced force skill Mechu-deru as his main force expression as a kid so we leave him as an outlier. I sort of see him like a lot of the physical reinforcement kids where if he wasn't a slave his mother likely wouldn't give him up.
 
Never really dug into the specifics of force sensitve young and what not, but my initial opinion is that given the size i remember for the Jedi order is 10,000 knights, and assuming the ones not selected and funnelled off into the agricorps and other branches are (generously)10x that amount, that is still an organization with less than 250,000 members in a galaxy with quadrillions of sapient beings. At that point I assume that the recruitment for the jedi order has a lower limit of force sensitivity that they won't bother recruiting below, only really going for the ones who are especially strong/talented from such a young age.

One example of that is in the Clone Wars tv series, the episodes dealing with Cad Bane hired to kidnap children on the recruitment list. We see that one of the kids was telekineticlly juggling childrens blocks. Heck even in the episode the mother of the Rodian child said she was told the Jedi weren't going to be coming by to pick up the child for several more years.

In addition, the existence of Anakin shows there are portions of the galaxy that the Jedi simply don't go to, and seeing those areas not exploding due to out of control force users, I'm going to assume that the vast majority of force sensitives not recruited end up just regular people with a little bit of Extra sprinkled on top.

Talking about theoretical force skills that untrained people would show up with, I do think the whole boost to physical skills/reactions would be the most common skills to show up, probably followed by the 'gut feeling' intuition. I don't think the Mind Trick would be showing up very often, but a lesser version, something like 'Force Charisma' or 'Force Persuasion' I would believe in showing up more. After all, someone being able to fast talk and convince people isn't really unusual.
 
I think I mentioned it earlier, but I think it must be said again if he is getting billions or trillions of views on his videos and then the ad revenue by itself will probably make john almost a billionaire, most definitely a millionaire.
YouTube pay between $2 and $12 per 1000 views. if we assume the Republic credit is significantly more valuable per unit than the American dollar and we go on the lower end of that payout per advertisement view Say 1 credit per 2000 views then if he has multiple trillions of viewers, he will still have more than 1 billion credits in the bank.
 
Knight-Radiant said:
Unless something was retconned... don't most force sensitive kids go undiscovered and end up with incredibly muted powers? Like, *hunches* that tend to be right more often than not, or intuition for a particular field?

That's why (IIRC) Anakin's ability to podrace (enhanced reflex + precognition) was considered notable for an untrained sensitive because without training, most species simply DON'T tap into anything like Jedi/Nightsister/Baran Do powers. Hell... LUKE didn't even know he was force sensitive despite being just as (if not more) powerful than Anakin!

Outside of disney lore, you don't get the good stuff without time and training. You don't just trip into Big Deal force power saccidentally
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It is heavily implied that the reason HAN is so good a pilot is that he was a Force Sensitive, just not powerful enough for the Inquisitors to recruit him.
Krazyfan1 said:
Consider: Force Sensitive babies....
But they unlock Force Speed.
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What level of baby? Immobile Potato or crawling around or even just-barely-walking? And what kind of Force Speed? There is the "Force Speed" that is a specialized body enhancement to let you move faster, and there is the "Force Speed" that makes something else move faster; Tele or Bio branch of Force Abilities, basically.
death & gravitas said:
I think I mentioned it earlier, but I think it must be said again if he is getting billions or trillions of views on his videos and then the ad revenue by itself will probably make john almost a billionaire, most definitely a millionaire.
YouTube pay between $2 and $12 per 1000 views. if we assume the Republic credit is significantly more valuable per unit than the American dollar and we go on the lower end of that payout per advertisement view Say 1 credit per 2000 views then if he has multiple trillions of viewers, he will still have more than 1 billion credits in the bank.
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I believe this has already been explained by the author, but basically a larger demographic is assumed as baseline. Like, the ads for a youtube video are assumed to hit ten or a hundred thousand people on each video per day, depending on the creator and how big their channel is, and you get a certain rate per thousand views. Well, in a galaxy of quadrillions of internet-connected people, we are going to see an equally larger number of views, and likely only an order of magnitude or so more "popular" creators. So if millions to a billion people (people who watch Youtube in English) means an expected hundred thousand views on the first day, and you get X dollars per thousand views, you are getting 100X dollars on that first day. The Star Wars Galaxy has a standard language, even those that can't SPEAK the language usually UNDERSTAND it, so all the quadrillions of people are in the same demographic Drop three to four orders of magnitude from "total potential viewers" to "actual viewers" just like we did with the Youtube views, and we have a hundred billion views on the first day for popular creator. Now assume they get an equivalent amount of money, as they got a similar proportion of the user-base. So instead of X per thousand views it would be X per hundred million or per billion views, and still getting 100X out of that video on the first day.

A quick check on youtube, and a streamer/meme reaction youtuber with nearly 1.5 million subscribers, on a video released 12 hours ago, is at a little over 50k views. That fits my guesstimates above pretty well.
 
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tomer3392 said:
Maybe the MC should do an episode about raising force sensitives babies/toddlers/children for dummies, with representatives of light side force sects that give examples on how to make sure little Timmy will not start shooting force lightning because mommy and daddy refused to give him a cookie, also I hope the author would think about my body cam idea as it can be a cool story arc in my opinion.
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He'd need to consult a mom or two before or during the episode. There's no way he knows how to take care of babies and hundreds of comments would call him out if he didn't.
 
Dead Pann said:
He'd need to consult a mom or two before or during the episode. There's no way he knows how to take care of babies and hundreds of comments would call him out if he didn't.
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Could be a reason for a part 2, where after the first episode, he brings in a Skywalker's mom and ask her for her perspective while Anakin gets embarrassed on the stream as she shows his baby pictures and his teddy bear or something.
 
Fencer said:
Step one of parenting force children. Training begins when the tantrums end. So after emotional maturity but before teenager. Or after teenage rebellion settles. Martial arts and meditation as a way to build discipline and emotional stability are a good foundation for actual training later in life.
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Meh, irl a lot of dangerous work can be and have been trained at a really early age.
From Shaolin monks starting their training as early as four years old, to things closer to us like child Coal miners starting to work at ten or even eight years old.
 
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Sith Vs Archaeologist
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    • Omake: Sith Vs Archaeologist

    The following was inspired by the below comment:
    Fallout5368 said:
    When they find out about Sith Ghosts I can see Historians besieging Korriban. Not to steal their few remaining artifacts but to ask the Sith Ghosts about their cultures.
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    Unnamed Tomb Complex On Morriban

    Lifting the geometric shape with great care Dr. Irwin Graves brushed off a layer of dirt before placing it on the table in front of him. As he does the item gives off a faint hum and a projection appears above it.

    "Who thinks to claim the wisdom of Darth W'ore?" The projection demanded as Dr. Graves pulled out a data pad and began to take notes.

    "Dr. Irwin Graves," He responded. "University of Taftan Archaeology Department."

    "And you claim to be worthy of my Wisdom?" Darth W'ore demanded looking at the elderly man before her. "I have seen rocks with more force presence than you."

    "Me?... no," Dr. Graves said holding up a pen as he looked her over. "But the galaxy deserves to know its own history."

    "As such," He continued still considering her or more accurately her outfit. "Was it usual for female Darth to dress like that and would you call it closer to a pleather body glove for fetish wear?"

    "YOU DARE TO SAY SUCH TO ME THE GREAT DARTH W'ORE?!?" She responded flaring her aura and shaking the dust off the roof of the tomb in her rage. "I SHOULD SHOW YOU THE FOLLY OF YOUR INSOLENCE!"

    "Was that supposed to scare me?" Dr. Graves asked. "All it would take is one slip of the pen and you will spend the rest of history known as Darth Whore."

    "Anyways you have obviously never attended an Archeaologoly department meeting discussing funding," He continued. "Just last week Dr. Mercy brought in a collection of Etten Flesh peeling tools to the meeting and Dr. Rubutnik brought a refurbished HK series droid to the discussion. It seems that every meeting has at least one rediscovered doomsday weapon or instrument of torment being put on the table to secure funding."

    "Now, answer my question," The doctor asked calmly. "Then we can get to the social education of the Sith during the time of the Sith Empire."

    "Oh and in case you decide to mess with me," Dr. Graves said leaning forward so that the feeble light in the tomb glinted of his glasses. "I am the only thing standing between you and Dr. Ikari in the linguistics department."

    Darth W'ore did not know why those words caused a shiver to run down her non-existent back and she did not want to as she settled down to talk with the man in front of her.
     
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    • ... It sounds like that lady was never called Darth Whore in her life. With that name and outfit? She must have been a Darth for an extremely short time to have so little resistance against that bit of namecalling. If she was named Darth War, that would at least make more sense than W'ore.
     
    Fencer said:
    Yup I went and threw another setting into my explanation. Why? Because it's still a more accurate than comparing things to middle ages Europe.
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    It's a much more apt simile. People would think differently of the church if priests wandered door to door, attempting to poach very specific toddlers for the cloth and a life of celibacy, instead of taking in abandoned children as novices every now and then.
     
    prince84 said:
    Omake: Sith Vs Archaeologist

    The following was inspired by the below comment:


    Unnamed Tomb Complex On Morriban

    Lifting the geometric shape with great care Dr. Irwin Graves brushed off a layer of dirt before placing it on the table in front of him. As he does the item gives off a faint hum and a projection appears above it.

    "Who thinks to claim the wisdom of Darth W'ore?" The projection demanded as Dr. Graves pulled out a data pad and began to take notes.

    "Dr. Irwin Graves," He responded. "University of Taftan Archaeology Department."

    "And you claim to be worthy of my Wisdom?" Darth W'ore demanded looking at the elderly man before her. "I have seen rocks with more force presence than you."

    "Me?... no," Dr. Graves said holding up a pen as he looked her over. "But the galaxy deserves to know its own history."

    "As such," He continued still considering her or more accurately her outfit. "Was it usual for female Darth to dress like that and would you call it closer to a pleather body glove for fetish wear?"

    "YOU DARE TO SAY SUCH TO ME THE GREAT DARTH W'ORE?!?" She responded flaring her aura and shaking the dust off the roof of the tomb in her rage. "I SHOULD SHOW YOU THE FOLLY OF YOUR INSOLENCE!"

    "Was that supposed to scare me?" Dr. Graves asked. "All it would take is one slip of the pen and you will spend the rest of history known as Darth Whore."

    "Anyways you have obviously never attended an Archeaologoly department meeting discussing funding," He continued. "Just last week Dr. Mercy brought in a collection of Etten Flesh peeling tools to the meeting and Dr. Rubutnik brought a refurbished HK series droid to the discussion. It seems that every meeting has at least one rediscovered doomsday weapon or instrument of torment being put on the table to secure funding."

    "Now, answer my question," The doctor asked calmly. "Then we can get to the social education of the Sith during the time of the Sith Empire."

    "Oh and in case you decide to mess with me," Dr. Graves said leaning forward so that the feeble light in the tomb glinted of his glasses. "I am the only thing standing between you and Dr. Ikari in the linguistics department."

    Darth W'ore did not know why those words caused a shiver to run down her non-existent back and she did not want to as she settled down to talk with the man in front of her.
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    Thanks for the omake!
     
    prince84 said:
    Not "A" Sith Lord but the "Many "that their enemies disposed of into the helpful body-eating hole.

    Darth Vore: I hold the minds and power of several thousand Sith. Do not anger me or you will join them.
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    If it learns whatever what it eats knew a mindreader could learn ALL the Hutts dirty laundry
     
    Fencer said:
    after emotional maturity but before teenager.
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    Speaking as an early childhood educator, there is no such period. Emotional maturity isn't reached until the late teenage years at the absolute earliest. Those who've had stunted emotional growth due to abuse, trauma, and/or various developmental disorders, may not reach full emotional maturity until middle age. Some may even never reach it at all.

    You might have meant to refer to emotional regulation or perhaps stability. The ability to actually choose how you express your emotions most of the time rather than being totally unfiltered. That usually manifests between the ages of 4 and 6.
     
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