Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age
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Oh; okay. I thought the "you become weaker and lose your lowest skill" meant we that we became weaker by losing our lowest skill, not that we became weaker (by dropping an Avatar level) in addition to losing our lowest skill. But you are right, and the vote option makes that clear.
I was figuring multiple infusions of gaerig heritage across the generations. A water affinity boy now, a fish girl later.
That said, its probably better symbolism not to cheat on saiga during the honeymoon year
edit: also at some point we should demand a shrineship. A mobile shrine we can project power from and can speed along to distant places because its always within our area of influence
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"current" as of the child's death, or of their birth?
EDIT: Also, how much legend do we get from Ur-Monsters? And can they ascend?
Also, do we get legend back for Ur-children when they die of when they cross the starting legend threshold?
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On a separate note, can someone tell me how accidentally Despising traits works? I'm afraid I must have missed it.
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
*is actually crying*
[X] Plan: Octopus Baby
Hey @Omegahugger, whenever you arise from the depths, here's a solidly thought out immediate octopus baby.
*is tired of waiting*
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You do realize I'm gonna put octopus babies literally as soon as i get home, right?
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Just got home myself, give me a minute to fully catch up to with the discussion. For now, priority Exploration to find octopus/squid, rest is negotiable and less important to me.
*Headdesk*
Mah, It's been so long since you said you would make a HALPFUL map. So long I made one myself
.Should have told me that earlier, I'll would have gladly changed things. Any other discrepancies or additions you want me to add or correct?
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[X] Plan Moongazer Baby
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Why do you betray me?
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[X] Ninjafish.
Whatever that plan is. I trust him to at least be aiming towards cool monster-people. I don't trust Veekie to be aiming towards cool monster people.
Elections are about trust as well as issues.
Whatever that plan is. I trust him to at least be aiming towards cool monster-people. I don't trust Veekie to be aiming towards cool monster people.
Elections are about trust as well as issues.
Others already said it, but a spirit child at this point is liable to choke our own growth to death. At least an Ur-child would take 15+ years to ascend, and an Ur-Beast 8+ years.
Theres just no population to cover that many spirits.
Good catch.
So the Crone is of Dead Stars and secrets, Stars, Mysticism, possibly Death.
The Giver is some kind of "Charity in Winter" concept, probably a Crafter or Trader if not a herd animal.
No idea about the Imprisoned One yet
Okay, so some risks there. I assume you mean forced avaar dematerialization or something more nasty from just going over the cap?
Safe traits:
-Fear 2 Legend - No weight
-Avatar 4 Legend - No weight
-Influence 3 Legend - Positive weight(shrine cap)
-Shrine 2 Legend - Positive weight(trait cap)
-Skill 1 Legend
-Mischief 6 Legend
-Sea 5 Legend
-Ocean Affinity 8 Legend(assuming upgrade)
Unsafe traits:
-Animal Aspects 1-2 Legend
-Human Aspect 2 Legend
-Exploration 5 Legend
-Moon Affinities 7 Legend
-Stars Affinity 5 Legend
-Frost Affinity 5 Legend
-Rain/Waves Affinity 5 Legend
-Wind Affinity 5 Legend
-EA Water 3 Legend
-Capricious One 4 Legend
So, a safe outcome this turn requires:
-Lowering unspent Legend as much as possible. 12 Legend will maximize the chances of picking up a trait instead of an Attribute. If we can drive it down to 6, we reduce the risks of going Moon and Ocean, which we always have strong weighting towards.
-Avoiding actions which emphasize an animal or human aspect. Those are all very cheap, and thus the prime candidate for exploding us.
-Avoiding exploration/astrology/violent water actions. Not really practical if we want to get anything done at all though.
-Avoiding actions which generate high Vehemence. We can only buy the expensive traits if our Vehemence is that high or if we have an excess of Legend(we do)
I THINK if we manage to lower our Legend and avoid scary actions this turn we should be fine.
Done. Replaced two of the Saiga chat items with a shrine upgrade demand.No plan Demands that mortals work to improve our Shrine
Note that Satiation must stay at 10 or above though after adding ambrosia. Drop below and we'd do whatever the hell.
Cute.
It indeed doesn't prevent us from gaining any more levels in avatar, but it DOES stop us from making either demihumans, regular monsters or Ur-Child.
But more relevantly, we won't have the Legend to pay for an Ur Child next turn. Fear Spirit making an Ur Child is basically incentivized to do so only on turns after they get a shitload of legend.
By contrast, Ur-beasts are more optimal on almost any other turn! In exchange for temporary loss of fertility and skill, you get plenty of Legend.
Really you'd have an easier case for regular monster.
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Sorry man, veekie's plan is more what I want right now.
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
On one hand, I didn't know that
On the other hand, I did say I'm tired of waiting
Plus I dig the rationale for the plan. No beef here, though, more Octopus Baby Plans can only be good!
I just had a thought that will warm the very cockles of your cold dead heart: pyramid babies
...idea
@Powerofmind
Is there any reason we couldn't spend off ALL free Legend by making twins?
Obviously not as much Sustenance to go around for both of them, but it does drop our Legend to the point where we can ONLY buy animal aspects(and explode) or an Attribute...
Since animal aspects are low probability unless we specifically Guide Fish, Bless Fishing or have sex with the animal, we'd be home free to turn the ONLY possible options to be skills or attributes, based on Legend gained. Since our Shrine is so low...
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[X] Plan Moongazer Baby
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
TWIN OCTOPUS BABIES! EEEEEEE
Monsters don't cost Legend though.
Once again, does anyone know where Despising traits accidentally is described?
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Moongazer Baby is having us make one now though, Ninjafish's plan is only looking for animals, not having babies.
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There you go good sir.