Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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You know, I don't think we are ever going to do anything with those rotting pods we have. Any chance we might hand them over to Suyin to see if she can do anything with them?
Those are a crop. Wait till we have land to plant them in.

Grade 2 seeds are nothing special as a craft mat, but a prime source of productivity
Actually, don't the Gu have good iron/steel? Didn't Meizhen mention it in relation to that being something the Thousand Lakes tends to need?
Ahhh, iron makes sense. Thousand Lakes is good land for tin and copper(the lake environment would help percipate nodules of the stuff I think, if you could dredge it up somehow.
Iron ores fit the Gu biome, and it does require extremely high temperatures to smelt to crucible steel.
 
That said, we don't know what the Gu mines generate. Didn't even know they had mines till now, but it occurs to me that the Fire cultivating Gu could probably improve on a lot of smelting processes, and would need to import a great deal of charcoal.
It's been stated multiple times that post-Purifying Sun the Golden Fields went from breadbasket to mining region, because the spiritual radiation, while hostile to life, created a lot of valuable/useful sediments and minerals. We don't know the specifics exactly, but we also don't know or need to know what specific lumber varieties the various Emerald Seas regions produce.

You should probably be careful trying to match specific minerals to specific biomes. Iron is pretty common stuff and by no means is it found only in restricted environments. And I wouldn't call Cornwall a lacustrine environment.
 
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Agree to disagree. Lap dogs are useless, Ji Rong is showing to be anything but.

He's pretty useless. He's a punch man with no other skills at the moment. And we know Sun Liling is treating him like a mushroom - he's being kept dumb and secluded from all of her politics work because Ji Rong is a liability there.

It was Kang Zihao who ran politics, pr, and organizational leadership in year 1 for the Sun Liling faction. It's Kang Zihao who was doing outreach to Wen Ai, and it's Kang Zihao who can and is playing politics now. He came out of the year with his rep intact.

Ji rong's only job atm is to follow Liling around, panting like a dog, and then yap and bite at the people he notices are treating her badly. No noble invites Ji to anywhere (beyond as Sun Lilings plus one) because they know he's not a power in and of himself (ie he knows shit all) and he's just a thug who punches the people Liling points him at.

(Although fair's fair, Ling Qi was pretty useless too for the past four months. She's very slightly more useful because she can info gather for Cai Renxiang and maintain relationships that CRX points her to.)
 
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[X] Seek out Liao Zhu, there were things she wanted to get out of her mind, and she thought her senior brother might have useful insights.
 
Starting to seem likely, especially if Xiulan can keep her momentum in the inner sect. You don't tie a rising star to a lead anchor after all.
She'd need to get a really massive difference between the two, because from a cultivators lifespawn point of view, aka their familie's point of view, a difference of cultivation of just a couple years is nothing.
Something like hitting Cyan when Fan is still Yellow would qualify, but i'm unsure if anything less would.
 
She'd need to get a really massive difference between the two, because from a cultivators lifespawn point of view, aka their familie's point of view, a difference of cultivation of just a couple years is nothing.
Something like hitting Cyan when Fan is still Yellow would qualify, but i'm unsure if anything less would.
Not really.

Xiulan is showing a prodigious amount of talent and skill, and Fan Yu is floundering. Yes if they remain where they are relative to each other then things likely won't change, but that situation is unlikely.

The more potential you show, the more resources you either obtain or are given access to, allowing you to grow fast and continue to develop.

Purely for demonstration, let's do some math. Gu Xiulan is at 5, Fan Yu is at 3. Gu Xiulan has shown herself to grow at '2' resources per year. Fan Yu grows at '1' resource per year. In one year, GX is at 7, FY at 4. In two years GX is at 9, FY at 5. The divide between them grows. But in actuality GX is continuing to excel, to prove that she can and will show her might to all. Meaning that she will get more and more resources for her growth, widening the distance more. The original circumstances of the marriage contract are going to be unsatisfactory and grow dated, meaning it will be annulled by the Gu for better prospects.
 
Not really.

Xiulan is showing a prodigious amount of talent and skill, and Fan Yu is floundering. Yes if they remain where they are relative to each other then things likely won't change, but that situation is unlikely.

The more potential you show, the more resources you either obtain or are given access to, allowing you to grow fast and continue to develop.

Purely for demonstration, let's do some math. Gu Xiulan is at 5, Fan Yu is at 3. Gu Xiulan has shown herself to grow at '2' resources per year. Fan Yu grows at '1' resource per year. In one year, GX is at 7, FY at 4. In two years GX is at 9, FY at 5. The divide between them grows. But in actuality GX is continuing to excel, to prove that she can and will show her might to all. Meaning that she will get more and more resources for her growth, widening the distance more. The original circumstances of the marriage contract are going to be unsatisfactory and grow dated, meaning it will be annulled by the Gu for better prospects.
don't forget that they are unlikely to remain very long in the Sect. A few years at most.
once they are back "home" they'll get, if not identical, then least somewhat comparable resources.


note: i'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just that Xiulan needs to show more than the current one single step difference between Fan and herself.
 
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don't forget that they are unlikely to remain very long in the Sect. A few years at most.
once they are back "home" they'll get, if not identical, then least somewhat comparable resources.


note: i'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just that Xiulan needs to show more than the current one single step difference between Fan and herself.
I'm not sure about that. Yanmei has been here presumably for a number of years as she's a Core Disciple and got to Cyan in the Sect. The Gu May find it valuable to keep their youngest there since it is obviously not hurting their growth and allows for a decent communication channel to the Luo and other Emerald Sea nobles (like her best binch being the vassal of the current ES heiress)
 
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don't forget that they are unlikely to remain very long in the Sect. A few years at most.
once they are back "home" they'll get, if not identical, then least somewhat comparable resources.


note: i'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just that Xiulan needs to show more than the current one single step difference between Fan and herself.
A difference of realms is more than a step. Mid silver to late silver is a step. Full 2nd realm vs full 3rd realm is a whole realm (if you'll pardon the pun) of difference. I agree that with what she's shone so far, GX will not get out of her engagement; it's why she still refers to FY as her fiancé. But they are in a situation where, so long as GX doesn't stop and keeps pushing herself, the contract will get annulled as the difference between them continues to grow.
 
[X] Seek out Liao Zhu, there were things she wanted to get out of her mind, and she thought her senior brother might have useful insights.
 
Gu Xiulan is basicly besties with the left hand of a ducal heir, and good friends with a member of another ducal house, forget marriage, keeping her glued to these two is probably far more profitable for her family in the long run.
 
Gu Xiulan is basicly besties with the left hand of a ducal heir, and good friends with a member of another ducal house, forget marriage, keeping her glued to these two is probably far more profitable for her family in the long run.

That would be a bit funny. Initially she thought she would be our meal ticket through us being her handmaiden, but it turns out we are her meal ticket by connecting her with Renxiang and Meizhen
 
[X] Seek out Liao Zhu, there were things she wanted to get out of her mind, and she thought her senior brother might have useful insights.
 
She'd need to get a really massive difference between the two, because from a cultivators lifespawn point of view, aka their familie's point of view, a difference of cultivation of just a couple years is nothing.
Something like hitting Cyan when Fan is still Yellow would qualify, but i'm unsure if anything less would.
The need for a massive difference would be to avoid Fan simply being swapped out by a relative, which is what Xiulan wants as she wishes to be the clan heir, or at least delay it long enough for her to cultivate more.
I'm not sure about that. Yanmei has been here presumably for a number of years as she's a Core Disciple and got to Cyan in the Sect. The Gu May find it valuable to keep their youngest there since it is obviously not hurting their growth and allows for a decent communication channel to the Luo and other Emerald Sea nobles (like her best binch being the vassal of the current ES heiress)
The reason for this is probably that the Argent Sect has access to resources their clan either cannot afford to buy, or flat out cannot buy so it makes sense for them to keep anyone who will potentially have access to such resources within the sect.

Also based upon how the GF route would work with there being several years in the Argent Sect they're gearing up to actually retake land, and I'd speculate the terms for the Luo suit will revolve around that particular topic.
 
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It's been stated multiple times that post-Purifying Sun the Golden Fields went from breadbasket to mining region, because the spiritual radiation, while hostile to life, created a lot of valuable/useful sediments and minerals. We don't know the specifics exactly, but we also don't know or need to know what specific lumber varieties the various Emerald Seas regions produce.

You should probably be careful trying to match specific minerals to specific biomes. Iron is pretty common stuff and by no means is it found only in restricted environments. And I wouldn't call Cornwall a lacustrine environment.
Actually thats exactly why iron came to mind. Its extremely common as an ore, except in most places theres something more valuable on top of it, you wouldn't destroy good farmland for iron, but a freshly made wasteland would expose seams of iron ore, which might have been originally lower quality, but are now spiritually transmuted ore.
Iron is one of those materials where being infused with Sun, Fire or Death qi would improve its uses more than limit it after all. Death Iron/Soulsteel would be dangerous to use, but a weapon is arguably what its best meant for.

Now, the Gu have an advantage there in their strong focus on Fire cultivation, because the big logistics difficulty of iron production is that producing good fuel via forests is normally exclusive with strip mining out iron seams, both are land consuming in a way which cannot coexist.

Throw in fire cultivators, where they can augment furnaces. They can produce iron, even spirit iron, just with direct qi fire generation.

Its not a bad way to recover from a total economic crash, if you were desperately scrabbling for a new source of wealth in the wake of the apocalypse. We know the Gu used to be old style wealthy landowners being rich off the productivity of their land, and were forced to transition to selling stuff to stay wealthy.

No proof of course, but half the fun is in extrapolating from limited facts.
He's pretty useless. He's a punch man with no other skills at the moment. And we know Sun Liling is treating him like a mushroom - he's being kept dumb and secluded from all of her politics work because Ji Rong is a liability there.

It was Kang Zihao who ran politics, pr, and organizational leadership in year 1 for the Sun Liling faction. It's Kang Zihao who was doing outreach to Wen Ai, and it's Kang Zihao who can and is playing politics now. He came out of the year with his rep intact.

Ji rong's only job atm is to follow Liling around, panting like a dog, and then yap and bite at the people he notices are treating her badly. No noble invites Ji to anywhere (beyond as Sun Lilings plus one) because they know he's not a power in and of himself (ie he knows shit all) and he's just a thug who punches the people Liling points him at.

(Although fair's fair, Ling Qi was pretty useless too for the past four months. She's very slightly more useful because she can info gather for Cai Renxiang and maintain relationships that CRX points her to.)
Well, we hadn't seen Ji Rong doing much on screen because he's basically "Hero of another story" where we occasionally guest star, but I'd note that Ji Rong isn't useless diplomatically either. At least, not significantly more useless than Ling Qi was, considering Ling Qi spent most of the socials just being the BGM.

The dumb thug musclehead is player(and Ling Qi's own not exactly objective) perception. Ji Rong started with better social skills than Ling Qi, his problem is that he has a confrontational attitude, and his reputation is initially bad.

So he's basically running a Charisma + Speech(Intimidation) strategy, good for running a gang, but traditional nobles will only see this upstart talking like he's hot shit because he doesn't realize how high up the mountain goes.

I rather suspect he's been doing the rounds socially too. Just not at the big fancy events where he's a liability. From what we learned of our encounter in the Archives, Ji Rong is actually quite personable if you were dealing with him personally.
don't forget that they are unlikely to remain very long in the Sect. A few years at most.
once they are back "home" they'll get, if not identical, then least somewhat comparable resources.
Reminder that noble family resources are not unlimited. If Fan Yu is floundering on the Green threshold, theres very little reason for them to throw good money after bad, compared to investing in a younger sibling or cousin instead to try for more.

Performance nets results.
We've seen Han Jian get his resources reduced because of poor performance in his youth, and we've seen Xiulan and Meizhen get extra resources for doing well.
The only outlier is Liling, who Sun Shao spoils rotten as his sole main line heir and heaps resources on regardless.

If Fan Yu goes home somehow still Yellow(admittedly unlikely) he's probably going to be sidelined entirely to a minimum stipend, possibly being married off to strengthen a lesser alliance or tighten ties with vassals.
Green resources are expensive even for nobility.
 
May the Force... be with you?
May the Force… be with you?

Ling Qi's eyes shot open and with an anguished gasp she rose from the ground to a sitting position. Eyes darting to and fro, panic began to set in. Towering metal structures rose all around her, hemming her in a small alleyway next a metal bin holding what smelled like the refuse of a city. In fact, nothing smelled natural as if there was an underlying irritant pervasive through the air, like the smoke from a campfire but thicker. The last thing she remembered was tucking in Biyu for bed and stepping out to the garden to cultivate. But this… this was clearly not her fief or any city she knew of in the Emerald Seas, let alone the Empire.

As she stood up, it hit her, a weakness that she had long since moved past, the absence of something she had long since become accustomed to. There was no qi, no qi in her or in the world around her. Even Zhengui, Sixiang, and Hanyi could not be felt in her dantian or anywhere near her. In fact, she didn't even seem to have a dantian. Horror began to overwhelm panic, and as she looked at a puddle in the ground, she saw an unfamiliar face. The face of a child, around ten or eleven years old, looked back at her. She felt a shock reverberate through her entire being, and she began to fall backward with no control over her body. And as she hit the ground, blissful darkness took her.

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Waking up was a painful experience for Ling Qi. Every movement caused her muscles to protest, and even her bones seemed intent on failing at any moment. Or perhaps, this was what being a mortal felt like, without qi strengthening the flesh. But even in her memories of her time in Tonghou she hadn't felt like this, so it was probably just this body's particular weakness. Still, a simple plan for the immediate future had developed. Survive. She didn't know where she was, she didn't know how she got here, she didn't know if she could even talk to any person or barbarian here, but she did know what she needed. Food, water, and shelter. Ling Qi started at the dumpster, looking for anything that appeared edible. Much of it was useless trash, much of it out of materials she couldn't recognize. But there was some food. A single fruit seemed to be in decent enough shape, with only a single bite taken out of it. It reminded her, in shape, of Zeqing's fruit. Certainly not in taste though. It was a bitter fleshy taste. Ahh well, time to find some more food and a source of water in this strange place. After that, a safe place to rest.

Traveling through the maze of alleys was difficult for someone who had no previous experience with them. However, it seemed that whatever place this was, it was city like and followed some of the same logic that Tonghou did. Buildings created alleys, streets ordered the buildings, and there were some places in the city better forgotten about by decent folk. It was unfortunate that she was in the places that decent folk seemed to want to forget. There was, however, a… problem Ling Qi discovered while standing at the edge of a street. In front of her was a chasm that stretched down for eternity, lights from some sort of flying carriage the only thing visible. It was oddly reminiscent of the chasm Ling Qi and Li Suyin had discovered in the corrupted cavern. The revelation of how expansive this place was brought new concerns, concerns of finding a secure place from below and above, and how one misstep might send her plummeting towards her death. Sighing, Ling Qi turned around and darted between the crowds of people going about their business. Securing a temporary abode wouldn't happen if she was listlessly standing around.

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Coughing and gasping for breath, Ling Qi crawled up a flight of stairs towards cleaner air. Going down did not appear to be an option after all. The taint she had quickly grown accustomed to was even more prevalent a couple of meters down, and while bearable, it quickly grew worse the further down she went. It was like acrid smoke filled the air and tried to suffocate everything that breathed it in. There was, however, a silver lining to the whole mess. She had been able to actually hear and understand someone, even if they were speaking with a completely unknown accent, and heard them reference a place called Nar Shaddar. Whether that was the name of a business, district, or of this entire spirit forsaken place she didn't know. But it was information. One, she could actually understand people, and two this place wasn't so barbarous to not even have a name. If it was named, that meant that there were likely other places with names and that meant someway to travel between the two. It would seem, after all, that any place was better than this squalid, rancid, forsaken place.

Additionally, she could feel… something. A light presence that pushed at her constantly and seemed to be everywhere. There were flows and ebbs to it like qi had, but it didn't seem to have different types. Just a singular presence that flowed and ebbed, and seemed to particularly favor her when she was desperate or panicked like it wanted to be near those flaring emotions. Which was kind of twisted in a way, like a spirit enjoying the suffering of those around it.

Suddenly she felt something in the presence. A whirlpool dragging the presence towards a bottomless depth, and in the depths of that whirlpool she could feel the emotions. Hatred, envy, anger, rage. All of it was coming straight towards her. It took her a split second too long to react and flee. Instead, as the whirlpool crashed around her, trying to suffocate her with the sheer amount of presence it had gathered, she jumped into one of the trash bins and dug herself inward. Closing the lid, she huddled in the trash, focusing all of her attention on breathing calmly and as shallowly as possible. And as the whirlpool's center reached her location, it stopped. Slowly, ever so slowly, the lid of the bin was opened and Ling Qi saw the face of the whirlpool. It was human looking, but with dark red skin and tendrils of flesh drooping from between the nose and mouth. The thing smiled a menacing dark smile.

"My, what little thing do we have here?"

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Ling Qi looked out amongst the swirling lights of this… hyperspace place. Her captor was asleep in a locked room, but there was an automaton watching her, likely ready to prevent her from doing anything dangerous or damaging to the ship. His conversation with, presumably, a superior of some kind had been enlightening, but ultimately of no immediate value. Apparently, she was to be brought to a place called Korriban and trained in their academy. For what purpose, she didn't know.

Of more immediate value was the information gathered when boarding her captor's ship and leaving Nar Shadda behind. Nar Shadda was, apparently, the name of an impossibly large sphere where she had been, and not simply the district she had been exploring. It stood to reason, then, that Korriban was another one of these impossibly large spheres with other people on it. Which meant that either the Celestial Empire was on another sphere which could be reached with this ship or something else entirely. Given some of the texts she had read regarding the moon and the heavens back in the Argent Sect, having the Empire being on another large sphere was unlikely. Which meant that in order to get back… she needed to figure out how she got here. Yeah… this was going to be a problem.

Turning to the automaton, apparently called X2-C3, which somehow was even worse than Li Suyin's naming schemes, Ling Qi began to ponder how to approach conversing with it. Eventually, she settled for the simplest straight forward method.

"So," Ling Qi began, "what do you do X2-C3?"

"Beep, boop, bppphlt."

Cradling her head in her hands, Ling Qi could only begin to imagine just how terrible this trip would be.

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It was even worse. The barbarian, apparently named Lord Runior, mainly kept to himself and meditated. Which left Ling Qi almost entirely to her own devices, and with nothing to do, not even cultivating, boredom quickly set in. Her entire life for the past three years had been an almost constant progression of activity: cultivating, exploring, training, politics, engaging with friends and family, tasks for Cai, etc. Having nothing to do, for days, was maddening. Finally, the time in hyperspace ended, and Lord Runior began driving the ship towards, presumably, Korriban. It was looked like a light red ball, with what seemed like some brown dust swirling across its surface. For some reason, she got the impression that it was dry and dusty, and would not be a pleasant place to live.

Stepping out of the ship after it had docked proved her initial impression correct. The blistering sun baked her skin, and the stone radiated painfully against her bare feet. Everything around her was bone dry, and only the shade seemed to offer any sort of comfort. Gu Xiulan would have loved it here. Lord Runior quickly marched her out of the strange port, and inside the utilitarian looking hall. Stone and metal seemed to be the mainstay construction material, and it was apparent that little effort was placed into the craftsmanship of the building. The number of individuals getting out of their way seemed to indicate that Lord Runior was a man of some import amongst his tribe, and given the diversity of the human looking barbarians around, it would appear that Lord Runior's tribe was quite large and successful at subjugating other tribes.

Soon enough, though, Ling Qi exited the long hall, and an edifice of metal and stone rose from the surrounding landscape. Emblazon with the same symbol she had seen on Lord Runior's ship it was clear that this was where he was taking her. Guards clothed completely in metal made way for the group as Ling Qi approached, and entered, the massive building. Stone engraved with strange archaic looking iconography predominately covered the inside of the room, and Ling Qi noticed the dramatic increase in people.

Clothed in dark robes, each of them seemed far too busy to pay her any attention. But those who caught Lord Runior in their periphery turned, paled dramatically, bowed, and hustled with an even quicker step away. There were a few who were braver, opting to sneer at her, before hurrying on to their tasks. Most notably, however, was that every single one created an eddy in the presence. Nowhere near the level of Lord Runior, but still peculiar.

However, this main hall was clearly not Lord Runior's destination. As he dragged her further and further into the recesses of the building, she began to wonder exactly where they were going. Training halls filled with individuals holding blazing sabers of light passed by as quickly as they had come and even one room seemed to hold the implements of torture. The iconography became even darker and twisted whenever she descended into a lower level until, eventually, Lord Runior stopped by a black metal door. Knocking twice, he opened the door and pushed Ling Qi into a dark room lit by only a couple of candles and occupied by a single elderly woman. He entered the room himself and closed the door.

"Overseer Ragate," Lord Runior spoke in his dark gravely voice, "as agreed I brought you a potential acolyte."

"So I see," said the woman, "and as agreed, Lord Runior, I will support your next bid for the rank of Sith Commander, you have my word. Now, I believe you have better things to be doing than dragging this poor acolyte around."

And with that, Lord Runior nodded and left. And Ling Qi was left alone, in a dark room, with an even more menacing woman.

"Come, child," Overseer Ragate said, "there is much to do, much to learn, and much to achieve with your new place. First, tell me your name so I can get the appropriate filings done."

Ling Qi swallowed hard, and responded, "Ling Qi."


A/N: I have never played "Starwars: The Old Republic" but the Ancient Sith Empires and the Old Republic have always fascinated me in Starwars lore. Anyways, I hope you enjoy the omake, and as always critiques and criticisms are welcomed.
 
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