Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Honestly, I hope Gan Guangli gets a similarly good fief. We should help him out with his development when the time comes.

This entire geographical region is pretty much a viscounty, we're just exploring the low level part of it right now. There's High Level Content gated behind Territorial Moosebart.

There's plenty of space in the region for Our Boi to find a spot of his own that he likes.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
What the Christ, people are gonna think that Renxiang is some kind of logistical genius for picking Snowblossom out as her initial seat of power!
She is a logistical genius, though. She just also has retainers who know how to turn wilderness spirits into friends.
We also have some leeway on the definition of "neighbor" and whether it precludes certain other relationships like liege or citizen. The inclusion of "dominance" and the tie it has to dragon-relations and the Empire has me worried that it would put us in Way-based conflict with Imperial structures of government rather more directly than I might like.
You see a problem, I see a feature.

[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
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[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

Regarding this vote, I see the offered insight as an exercise/meditation on the exclusion aspect of community that was mentioned earlier in the story. The community discriminates between those who are part of the community and those who are not. This insight defines a set of behaviors LQ expects from herself toward community members. She would expect this behavior from them, too.

This means that, for example, people who spy on us are not good neighbors in the eyes of LQ, which would affect how she interacts with them.

I am still unsure which way to vote

What is not a good neighbor?
  • A bad neighbor. This insight does not prevent us from recognizing those. This insight does not prevent us from politicking with one on semi-friendly terms anyway. This insight does not prevent us from choosing to be a bad neighbor.
  • An ally, generally. Particularly, an ally of convenience, nominal ally, or nascent ally, is not known to be a good neighbor yet. Only long-term bosom allies are likely to be considered good neighbors.
  • A subordinate or superior. That's a different set of interactions than Community.
  • Family, mostly. That's yet a different set of interactions. As matriarch, ours are and will be also subordinates. For others, relations between branch clans will be as neighbors (good or bad) though.
I don't know if our future tasks have completely changed, but Lady Ren once told us that one of the tasks she wants us to do is check on the Tax collector and law enforcer. How would we handle this? Or are they bad neighbors?
The nice thing about choosing the Cai route is that everything within the province can be treated as based on superior/subordinate relations if needed.

Repeatedly taking one insight over and over again isn't helpful.
Choosing non-conflicting insights is critical, though.

That said, I don't see much (we only have a couple Community-based insights), are you sure you aren't thinking about concepts?

Yes, the fief is forming up to be utterly ridiculous.
"High Danger" (per the original close fief vote) has indeed turned out to be an upside. It's not like we have enough project slots to do everything anyway.

(huh, the 4 people I replied to each have a different number of digits in their user id)
 
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[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
I should get back to my diffchecker habits:

Fief (most recent update only)
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Snowblossom Fief Threadmark 24-05-13 to 24-05-15 - Diffchecker

Snowblossom Fief Threadmark 24-05-13 to 24-05-15 - [QUOTE="yrsillar, post: 11601475, member: 870"] [B]Fief Development and Stats[/B] [spoiler=Term def

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Snowblossom Fief Threadmark 24-04-08 to 24-05-015 - Diffchecker

Snowblossom Fief Threadmark 24-04-08 to 24-05-015 - [QUOTE="yrsillar, post: 11601475, member: 870"] [B]Fief Development and Stats[/B] [spoiler=Term def

I dont think its worth doing a proper diffchecker just for the MoSS upgrade, that can wait for the general art threadmark. So the differences:

Rhythm of Exchange has gone from G3 and 'scene' duration to G4 potency and 'passive'

Bastion's Melody has gone from G5 to G6 potency, increased the number of entities who can have their enivornmental traits negated/reduced from three to four* and the reduction of potency to cyan or greater effects is by 8 instead of by 5.
It was a several days later
1. typo for @yrsillar
2. it being several days later means that we have an essential question that yrsillar has dodged on the discord:
Me: how many new ribbons is ling qi festooned with in the latter part of the update?

Yrs: cannot confirm or deny that LQ is a ribbon cocoon

Which of course just adds to the imagery of ling qi getting roasted by this court of daggers she's found herself in :V

"Hah, be more kind to your nephew's Madam Ling, you will make yourself that frightening Auntie!" Gan Guangli boomed. He chortled as she wrinkled her nose, looking at him with narrowed eyes.

"I am no Aunt at all," she scoffed, even if there did seem to be a small explosion of turtles and tortoises despite the cold weather. None of the breeds were spirit beasts precisely yet, but they all held a wisp of fire qi, the same way that their sheep held a wisp of wind.

"No. I think, by your own definition, you are," Xia Lin said, betraying her most grievously, sitting at the marble topped table set by the pondside. "Spirits are not like humans, but that does not change the facts."

"It was most joyous, smile Auntie Ling!" Gan Guangli guffawed. "Look upon your nephew's adorable face!"

While she was distracted the tortoise escaped her gaze and slid quickly back into the pond.

"I think Su Ling might be right to question your taste," Ling Qi grumbled. The little ones trundling about through the dying leaves and burrowing among the undergrowth were quite cute, but these slimy things… "...Lady Cai, should we not call the meeting to order?"

"No. You have some minutes remaining before its scheduled start," Cai Renxiang replied blithely, over the rim of her teacup.

Even Renxiang. Truly she was a member of a court of daggers. Her enemies would pay for these slights.

"Please, may we begin," Ling Qi said, definitely not whining.

"For the sake of our young elder's meditation schedule, I will support this," Xia Lin agreed.

Ling Qi narrowed her eyes, meeting hers, ensuring she knew vengeance was coming. Xia Lin's gaze was steel, welcoming the challenge.
Speaking of which, love this whole section, its wonderful and also ling qi reaping what she has sown in working to get CRX and her fellow retainers to be silly :V Here's hoping we can learn more about Xia Lin's maybe-crush on a White Sky soldier so ling qi can use that for vengeance fodder XD

But also, don't worry ling qi, you aren't an aunt...you're a grandmother! Qiyi is the aunt in the scene :p



*note @yrsillar you actually wrote 'up to for entities' instead of 'up to four entities' in the update
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

Wonder if this would reinforce Ling Qi's character growth and acceptance of the possibility of a romantic relationship of equals rather than one dominating the other?
As a side effect, Ling Qi is now fundamentally incapable of understanding why some people are into BDSM.
 
[X] Do not take insight from MoSS

Effective actors with such ambitions do not risk hard-limiting themselves on whims of idealism. These kinds of sentiments are already common in our outlook and always being worked towards; some canned notion of neighbourly relations can only be detrimental to a literal spy who will need to get her hands dirty at times.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.

Because while the insight is pretty obvious, and at the end of the day you sorta need something along those lines to advance smoothly through White. Since there is only the Way at White, and all the little things that are obvious to humans have been discarded along the wayside.

Also how Ling Qi ends up defining "Good Neighbor" alongside a whole lot of things will be done as she advances, and she is Moon cultivator meaning she has a lot of flexibility for how she defines her concepts compared to most cultivators.
Honestly, this feels like the "don't squash mortals in your presence, unintentionally" stuff for a white. At least, i can see it develop that way.
That makes sense as is would be doing MoSS except being the more powerful being in the interaction.
 
[X] Do not take insight from MoSS
This entire geographical region is pretty much a viscounty, we're just exploring the low level part of it right now. There's High Level Content gated behind Territorial Moosebart.

There's plenty of space in the region for Our Boi to find a spot of his own that he likes.
the Ling are very likely to become a viscount clan in the short(in cultivator terms) future. like, she will likely reach indigo within a century at most, and she is a ducal retainer, plus will have a powerful fief with plenty of room to expand. it will be very easy and quite beneficial for the Cai to make LQ a viscount(or possibly, a marquis given Snowblossom sits on the very frontier).
the wall is large though, and the empire claimed lots and lots of land. there will be ample space for GG to set his own fief.
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
I'm for it, Respect should be universal, at least at a certain level. Its literally the Golden Rule: Treat others how you want to be treated. A bit awkward in Xianxia land, but this only pertains to the treatment of literal Neighbors for now. Might change later, might be more defined or some such, but its fine for now. For instance, if we wanted Ling Qi to be a more wide-ranging and accepted Spirit/White, then we kind of need to be willing to promote something universal understandable and desirable. Like, for your average civilian, Ling Qi is quite possibly Terrifying. Hmmmm... Ideas..
 
[X] A good neighbor listens without spying, speaks without demanding, takes without dominating, gives without submitting. Respect is the foundation of community.
 
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