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Not good. Not good at all. Lots of screams and tears.
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There is a Ji Rong Quest?
EternalObserver
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If you mean a hypothetical AU version, then yes, there is one
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In an alternate universe.
Which is to say it's a hypothetical thought experiment, not a real Quest.
Winchester
Buzzzzzkill
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I love Ji Rong's heartfelt description of the situation.
Now, I *think* both Ji Rong and Ling Qi has gotten the gist of the situation - Sun Shao made a pact with an ancient enemy of the Empire, and has through some means inducted Sun Liling into that pact without warning her ahead of time, hence feeling betrayed. There's not much else that could effect a change in behavior and cultivation like this that you'd find *in that jungle*.
Now, Ji Rong's priority is "getting Sun Liling out of that pact", because as long as she's still being controlled by it she'll be in the crosshairs of the MoI if they ever find out about it. Ling Qi's goal has to be "getting the actual traitor dealt with", but we're not heartless.
So... how are we going to organize - under the noses of the high level cultivators like General Xia, who *will* go "slash and burn" if she finds out about the Sun treason - an intervention and Spirit-ectomy (because we're going to have to remove that Jungle Spirit she's bonded to) for Sun Liling, who is both socially and martially superior to our friend group?
I mean, we might have to smash half her cultivation to get her out from under the yoke of the Red Queen or whatever her name was, and if she *is* released she's still not going to be happy with *us*, but I kind of see it as the only way of saving her and Ji Rong from being purged by the Empire along with Dear Granddad.
Now, I *think* both Ji Rong and Ling Qi has gotten the gist of the situation - Sun Shao made a pact with an ancient enemy of the Empire, and has through some means inducted Sun Liling into that pact without warning her ahead of time, hence feeling betrayed. There's not much else that could effect a change in behavior and cultivation like this that you'd find *in that jungle*.
Now, Ji Rong's priority is "getting Sun Liling out of that pact", because as long as she's still being controlled by it she'll be in the crosshairs of the MoI if they ever find out about it. Ling Qi's goal has to be "getting the actual traitor dealt with", but we're not heartless.
So... how are we going to organize - under the noses of the high level cultivators like General Xia, who *will* go "slash and burn" if she finds out about the Sun treason - an intervention and Spirit-ectomy (because we're going to have to remove that Jungle Spirit she's bonded to) for Sun Liling, who is both socially and martially superior to our friend group?
I mean, we might have to smash half her cultivation to get her out from under the yoke of the Red Queen or whatever her name was, and if she *is* released she's still not going to be happy with *us*, but I kind of see it as the only way of saving her and Ji Rong from being purged by the Empire along with Dear Granddad.
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Ooh, I wonder if JR quest saw that through a Ling Qi interlude. Would be suitably dramatic!
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...there is no way the Empire tries to purge Granddad unless there's literally no other option.
He's an 8th Realm with an entire Province behind him, that would be, uh...
He's an 8th Realm with an entire Province behind him, that would be, uh...
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I don't know that it's actually treason. So far the Sun have been a dutiful part of the empire, loyal to the throne and used to keep the Bai in line with the rest of it. The jungle goddess doesn't actually change this. Yet.
So I guess I'm questioning whether there's actually a reason to consider them traitors, besides them joining with the one who killed the sage emperor back in the day. But there has been ages of time and oceans of blood since then.
The red jungle might be a useful tool against the ash walkers, if they ever come in contact. The Bai are going to propagandize the heck out of this- "going against the orders of your superiors leads to you becoming everything you hated" sort of story line. I don't know how the ebon rivers are going to take it. The Jin are probably going to be happy enough to treat the jungle as a bastion that secures their flanks against the ones they raid. The Xuan probably don't have an opinion?
The real issue is going to be when the celestial dragon finds out. I think it will cause a split between the peaks and their sublime ancestor, and that will really core out the reliability of politics.
So I guess I'm questioning whether there's actually a reason to consider them traitors, besides them joining with the one who killed the sage emperor back in the day. But there has been ages of time and oceans of blood since then.
The red jungle might be a useful tool against the ash walkers, if they ever come in contact. The Bai are going to propagandize the heck out of this- "going against the orders of your superiors leads to you becoming everything you hated" sort of story line. I don't know how the ebon rivers are going to take it. The Jin are probably going to be happy enough to treat the jungle as a bastion that secures their flanks against the ones they raid. The Xuan probably don't have an opinion?
The real issue is going to be when the celestial dragon finds out. I think it will cause a split between the peaks and their sublime ancestor, and that will really core out the reliability of politics.
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Phew thought I missed some LORE.If you mean a hypothetical AU version, then yes, there is one
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We're talking about a White with a combat-focused Way, with the resources of a Ducal clan, one of the mightiest armies in the Empire (even the footsoldiers are Greens), and the backing of a Sublime-tier spirit. The Empire ain't purging shit, at least not if they want to avoid a cataclysmic war.
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It getting out would fuck the Sun, though, in the medium term. Considering how many people were like, "We fought to beat those damn bastards" and here is their leader with damn bastards in his head.
But that'd be more, like, "Weakening his rule" or "Leading to a breakdown later" rather than, "Oh, and that's it for the Sun."
But that'd be more, like, "Weakening his rule" or "Leading to a breakdown later" rather than, "Oh, and that's it for the Sun."
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It depends on which way Sun Shao's plans go. Right now, he's colluding with an *actual* enemy of the Empire, not just a potential one. The Red Queen or whatever its name is is a known entity that previously killed one of the Emperors.
If Sun Shao wants to make a grab for the Empire? Then there'll be a fight one way or another, because the Bai and the Cai won't stand for it. If Sun Shao basically tells the Empire to screw off, the Sun are now independent? That's massive loss of face, and the Empire might have to bring them to heel or face a complete collapse because the other provinces decide "hey, we don't need the Empire either."
Either way, huge chance of a fight, one that only gets less winnable over time as Sun Shao has more time to set up for it without anyone knowing.
So, it's possible that we're going to have to rip the spirit out of Sun Liling and make her turn state's evidence against her grandpa to save the Empire (and her).
Ling Qi lives in *interesting* times.
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Didn't he demand the Sunflower adopt Liling as her part of the prenup precisely to prevent that? The Sun have a Sublime Ancestor now.
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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest) Original - Fantasy
Meanwhile in the Ji Rong Negaverse: “Okay. Everybody that Ling Qi girl is our next opponent. Here is what we know about her: She can fly She uses music to do most of her arts. She does frost damage Those mists are her primary debuffs She can fly. She is yrs’s street rat archetype so her...
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Varder
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Red Garden has always turned out a hell hole that no one should have ever invaded. And now they will have Sun Shao - aka either War-focused White+ Realm or the Carrion King Local Spirit Lord. "Empire might have to bring them to heel" doesn't mean that we'll be able to, if they bunker down in the Red Garden.
Ling Qi's perception has gotten monstrously good. She's starting to become aware just how dangerous she's become.
Them: it's unfair nobody else finds out they have to fight a White eventually when they are green!
it's just another side quest to the actual main quest for Cai Shenhua
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kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Someone better attack our shit soon, because I can't wait until we get to stab someone in the heart with [COMMUNICATION].
It's also really funny but also depressing that Ling Qi of all people forgot that how things go at the top aren't how they go when you are at the bottom.
Hanging out with ducal and count scions has skewed her in a lot more ways than just what the is normal cultivation progress
Oh boy, if only. She killed the Sage Emperor. The freaking founder of the Empire, who is probably worshipped in the Celestial Peaks despite dying before he could ascend, and who every single emperor and empress is descended from.
I fear that if that secret ever gets out, the Empress might not be able to afford not to start a massive civil war to avenge her ancestor. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if she and her father learned the truth a long time ago... and have spent a lot of resources ensuring it does not leak any further.
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It's especially a sore topic with Rong since he's feom
Ebon Rivers and one of the local vassal family members possibly ate his sibling and nobody gave a shit much less some local Zheng swoop in to save the day.
Ling Qi doesn't know that but hooo man did she touch a nerve
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Except Ji Rong can't even collaborate with his liege on the ol' regicide. Poor protagonist is doing his run on hard mode.
We just did this to him, didn't we?
Forcing an alien perspective on an unprepared mind is... unsettling. Something to keep in mind as we continue to develop these skills.
Though in this case, I expect much of his reaction comes from mundane imposter syndrome. I'm not sure Ji Rong feels particularly worthy of Liling's trust right now.
I appreciate the comradery displayed in this little rebuke, actually. Not only in terms of Ji Rong slotting so neatly into the role of "friend willing to call us incompetent to our faces", but also in the whole "relying on us" thing. Is there an opposite of a backhanded compliment? A... fronthanded insult, if you will?
Because this exchange feels like that, to me, with the implication that we're not great at international diplomacy but that everyone else would be even worse.
(not wrong, tbh)
The Sunflower Goddess didn't kill the Sage. That was her mother. The Sunflower Goddess is the Sage's daughter.
As far as I understand it, when the Sage forcibly married the head priestess of the Red Garden, she did some sort of sacrificial ritual that killed both herself and the Sage, and gave birth to some freaky super powerful spirit. Dunno about the exact mechanics...
Romv
A Memory of TREES
I was thinking of making a post about how Communication so far seemed limited to reading others' Way, when Communication sort of has to be two-way. But it seems like this is what it looks like in the other direction.