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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
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[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)

Convinced me, vote changed
 
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[X]She would make her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)
 
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Well that was fun! I'm really glad yrs expanded on them because I was really down on option one thinking it would step on wind thief's toes, but now I can see it's more about hit and run tactics and such which would work really well with wind thief!

As such I really like all three options and would be fine with any of them to win, so for now I'll be approval voting. May change later.

[X] She would make her successor a song of the early chill, the cold snap in spring, the cold that surprises and reaps the unprepared, a thing as much of wind as cold. (+2 Expression XP, Sets the Successor toward themes of Anti-Perception and Motion.)
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
[X]She would make her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)

Tasoli said:
Can I get a link to this? I don't remember reading it.
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Exorcist of Tonghou - Tales of Destiny

The pungent coppery scent of blood was almost unnoticeable beneath the miasma of anguish and hate that hung heavy in the air. I grimaced as I carefully (...)
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[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
Xepheria said:
I'm not sure 'purification and erasure' via death, cold and ice counts as happy and nice, and I really wish people would stop framing 2 as the only DPS option.

It's not. They're all damage options.
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I don't know, do we rely on concepts like Xia Ren's and Cai Shenhua's to kill our enemies? I mean both of them are awful at offense so this Art might not be sufficient

</sarcasm>
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the early chill, the cold snap in spring, the cold that surprises and reaps the unprepared, a thing as much of wind as cold. (+2 Expression XP, Sets the Successor toward themes of Anti-Perception and Motion.)
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the early chill, the cold snap in spring, the cold that surprises and reaps the unprepared, a thing as much of wind as cold. (+2 Expression XP, Sets the Successor toward themes of Anti-Perception and Motion.)
[X]She would make her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)
 
Aklyon said:
She would maker her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)

This sounds the most fitting as an FSS successor.
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Ling Qi rejected the core message of FSS, so I would argue otherwise.
I feel like doubling down on the old FSS is completely missing the point about what a personal successor art is supposed to be about.
We also recently had Grydja advise us to focus more on transitions, which is what option 3 is about.
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the early chill, the cold snap in spring, the cold that surprises and reaps the unprepared, a thing as much of wind as cold. (+2 Expression XP, Sets the Successor toward themes of Anti-Perception and Motion.)
 
As Xeph nicely caught, we do have advice from an old lady:
"Ending as transition, as transgression if you'd like to play with spice, you have this, and should build upon it, if you want an old woman's opinion."
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Imo clearly playing into it with 3, is a point against 2[*], and is ambivalent on 1 (thematic alignment due to wind thief/motion but no more than). We're not obliged to follow the advice, but given all 3 are (by necessity and design) plausible paths to take the art, I also see no reason to ignore it.

I'm soft-inclined to 3 given granny advice and purification seeming very nice to have in our wheelhouse given the threats we're gonna face (especially since CRX's brand is soft-countered by Yith-style corruption), so barring convincing arguments otherwise I'll go with:

[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)

[*] 2 seems more the honoring of Zeqing's old self, and works with LQ's domain to make her a Bai-style bastion in a large fight. Vs 1's wind-thief powered chaos elemental, or 3s uh... hard to parse but "Erasure" seems unpleasant and imo most directly leans into Causality which is a nice future goal.
 
[x] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)

This is a successor to frozen soul serenade so all 3 options are still going to leave us with an art that's good at damage. I prefer this option because purification of the world and return to zero that Yrs brought up in his clarification. Its still very deadly but also expands on its options. Giving us the opportunity for the art to do things like rip apart our opponent s buffs which is something we don't have ways of doing at the moment. If our opponents have there defences set up we mostly have to plough through them at the moment.

It also leans into the cycles theme which I think pairs well with the insight we took from FSS
There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings. (Cycles, Ending Creation.)
This insight is the anthesis of Zequing's original FSS was about so I feel that our successor should be moving away from the the original and the purification and renewal themes do this by enabling allowing the art to focus on the smaller endings.
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
Also can I just say I'm hype for both Wind Thief project options; 1 for building it into something beyond pure freedom and 2 for the sheer degree of transgression ability implied. Which makes sense given the origin of the art but still.
 
[X]She would make her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the early chill, the cold snap in spring, the cold that surprises and reaps the unprepared, a thing as much of wind as cold. (+2 Expression XP, Sets the Successor toward themes of Anti-Perception and Motion.)

[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)

I think 1 & 3 are the most interesting, and I look forward to hopefully seeing what we can do with it
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)
 
[X] She would make her successor a song of the years ending, the cold that puts the old world to sleep, that it may be born anew in the spring flooding, a thing of waters and rebirth. (+2 Expression XP, sets Successor themes toward Purification and Renewal)

Hello first time making a post here, I hope my vote counts, love the story and its characters
 
What I think has really sold me on option 3 is the clarification that it's really about setting the stage for spring, not about spring itself. One of the interesting ideas that Ling has played with recently is stage setting. Creating something that pays off later. We see it with her letters and her musing about BKSD. I would be interested to see if those idea could be explored more and what would come of it.
 
[X]She would make her successor a song of deep winter, the cold that cannot be banished without hearth and kin, a thing of purest dark and cold(+2 Expression XP. Sets the Successor themes toward Persistence and Power.)

I can see some good arguments for three and even agree with a few of them. But sometimes you need a hammer, sometimes you need power and persistence.

If three wins, I won't mind.
 
Xepheria said:
I really wish people would stop framing 2 as the only DPS option.

It's not. They're all damage options.
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That might be a misunderstanding because while they are all damage options, the argument is that option 2 is obviously THE damage option. LQ's weapon of war, like Yrs said. The one with the sauce.

I don't think anyone believes that the others won't be damaging, but it's not their sole focus, unlike the option which has POWER baked in. And this is going to be our signature offensive art.

I'm pretty certain that the terrifying purification arts we can all think about have POWER weaved in. They are also probably purely laser focused on what they are meant to do, and are in no way good comparisons to what the third option would give birth to.

Compromising both aesthetics, and maximum relevant mechanical effectiveness just doesn't make sense here, in my opinion.
 
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