Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Everyone seemed to really like Liminal Carver and the Garden of Mists Project for WHR and I'm getting excited to see if they might have a place combined into LFWT+. We've talked about how we want to add Dream to LFWT's successor and I think the way to do that is to base the Art around the concept of traveling as movement for it's own sake, with purpose and as a metaphor for life and Ways. Since WHR would have the Dream Keyword we wouldn't have to add it to LFWT ourselves. Meanwhile the combination of Liminal Carver's defensive/Home aspect in WHR with the offensive/infiltration aspect of LFWT would offer a more complete understanding of barriers and boundaries in formations. WHR is an Art about being safe at home which parallels Ling Qi's other desire to be safe in Motion, her desire for Freedom being tied to both because what matters is the Power to go where you Want to be. How good would it be for an Art about freedom and traveling to end with a tech about Home, and how it is not a destination but the dream that guides the journey?
 
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"I judged that it was better for you to complete your personal business," Cai renxiang said, arching an eyebrow. "What good would it have done you to know that my Mother has delayed her arrival time"

"Well, it wouldn't really," Ling Qi said unhappily. "Still I don't like surprises. She didn't tell you why?"

"Just that a matter encountered on her route had required her attention," Cai Renxiang said, frowning herself. "She will only be delayed until this evening. I have been assured she will make it to the planned feast for our Bai guests."

Ling Qi nodded, glancing worriedly out the window of the study. She saw only an early morning sky kissed by the first rays of the sun. She didn't seen a second sun on the northern horizon, so surely the matter couldn't have been too critical.
Delayed for half a day, no nuclear launch backblast.
My guess is her flight plan intersected a Hui bunker and she had some...fun.
Cai Renxiang walked a step ahead with her hands folded behind her back. The only change she had made to her appearance was to bind her hair in a single tight braid that glittered with rose gold thread that caught the early morning sunlight, seeming almost to burn. Still, even that much change was surprising for Lady Renxiang.
Minimalist style huh. Makes sense, and the gold would really stand out in her usual garb...especially since she's tiny, she has a Light domain aura and all that is going to put sparkling gold right at eye level for most people.
Ling Qi found it difficult to read the man's aura, it was tightly controlled and internal, but every time he waved his hand, wrenching up and rearranging tiles at a gesture, or sprouting meticulously shaped plantlife or shrubbery in newly cleared spaces, she felt as a if she had just tried to read a page from one of Renxiang's denser mathematical texts.
Thats one way of blocking detection/analysis techniques.
Information overload.

Internal domain too
Diao Luwen paused,glancing over his shoulder at the two of them. For just a second, Ling Qi saw his eyes and they were dense circles of burning green formations arrays and numbers. Then he blinked and they were merely vibrant green but wholly human.
Spooky, though Qi already has a proximate special effect in her glowing moon eyes.
"Has she," he said, squinting at her. Ling Qi felt a prickling sensation like she was being measured, weighed and numbered. "Oh, yes, the one involved with those barbarians. Heard you killed one of those Hui vermin who had manage to run off to the wall."

Interest sparked in his eyes and Ling Qi found herself the uncomfortable under his focused gaze."You dabble in Dream work yourself I see, gates and thresholds? Not a bad focus for a young girl just building her house."
And the opposite for his detection. Some kind of deep scan applied quickly and cheaply.

Boundaries are a decent starting base certainly. Hard defenses can be overwhelmed when you're new and weak. Boundaries stall and disperse and gate attacks until they might as well just pass you over if they want to be done sometime this year.
Ling Qi's gaze flickered to her lieges direction, why was her father focused on Ling Qi? Lady Renxiang's blank expression was unhelpful. "I have only just begun to study such things," Ling Qi said carefully. "Although I was under the impression that Liminal works were out of fashion."

"Of a kind, of a kind," he dismissed, waving a hand, his palms and fingers were cracked and calloused like a workmans, at odds with the rest of his appearance. "The geomancy of Towns and cities is about directing the flows of energy properly, that includes manipulating what thoughts and feelings linger in the region's spiritual realm. So many old settlements are laid down with misunderstood principles, lazy and cheap formatting or at times I suspect active malice, it's been a terrible drain on the province you know. I am working to repair that as best I can, but you see what I have to work with."

He shot a venomous look over his shoulder. Apprentices redoubled their efforts
Speculation here: The initial mess was simply with importing Peaks style geomancy wholesale, disregarding the extensive Liminal work of the Weilu and the interlocking spirit pacts. Which caused a royal festering mess.

And then the Hui, as Peak backed rulers who were in an unstable and vulnerable position, considered whether they wanted to expensively fix the festering mess...or exploit it. Because the sort of festering bad juju is a self perpetuating problem that needs Liminal expertise to manage, and that'd let the Hui just ensure that everyone's too tied up to fuck with them.

A lot of speculation based on basically no data though.
"It's nothing," he said, squinting at her again. "I smell Hui on you girl. Did you take any artifacts from the one you killed?"

"We acquired a great deal of treasure," Ling Qi said slowly. "But most is being reviewed and catalogued for auction. All I have right now is a brush."

"Give it here a moment then. I won't have some child getting their fingers blown off or mind melted by one of their tricks. Enough of that in their trashy settlements and bunkers," Diao Luwen grumped. "I suppose I'll have to trust the auction houses on the rest."
Dude sounds like he's seen WAY too many of those.
He took it, muttering to himself as numbers and characters formed in the air around his fingers. The brush glowed briefly in his hands and then he handed it back. "Hmph, no surprises. Personal use item I suppose. Be wary of any spirit that arises from that thing."

"I have no personal use for it," Ling Qi said. "My family is very new though so it seems foolish to waste a talisman of such potency."

"Maybe, if that's the case, leave it in your home and not that ring. Let it absorb better feelings, use it for mundane painting even," he said dismissively. "It is potent, I'll give you that. Infuses paint with Law, makes more potent qi constructs."
A talisman that infuses Shen.
Used for mundane painting...we need to feed the talisman good feelings.

I wonder if its safe for Biyu to play with.
Can't get purer joy than a child at play!
"Oh darn, tact? I've been slacking," Sixiang huffed. "For what its worth, I think the guys just totally focused on work. Like that's his entire Way focused. Well work and hating Hui."
Curious. He's cultivating Peaks style or did he just intensely want nothing to do with other people, so cultivated purely around his work.

Aside from Fuck The Hui, which is powerful sentiment indeed.
 
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I think I got it. We make it phantom dancer themed. Phantoms have always represented fears for Ling Qi, they're enemies hidden (FVM/Mist), open (BKSD) and hiding in the open (PLR), so we show her growth by making Community themed, purely defensive phantoms in a LFWT/WHR/PLR fusion. LFWT and Vanishing helps us scatter into slivers of mist and shadow which is kind of like scattering into phantoms, it'd find a place for that very evocative phantom dodge in our dodge Art. West Wind Step combines with PLR's Dreamlit Dancer and Dreamwalker, a dance move sweeps spectral mist for an avoid and group teleport through Dream, with darting phantoms representing the myriad paths one can travel. Zephyr's Mocking Escape becomes the passive to give us more room for a Home/Community tech that unleashes phantasmal dancers to support LQ and her allies, giving them boosts to movement, avoid and stealth through the power of Community like Liminal Carver could do with wards, paths, illusions and misdirection. Between that and Breach in the Vault we have ample space to define Liminal Carver without dedicating an Art to it, and making Home not static but where her loved ones are which is suitable if we're ever going to live on our son.

And then for BKSD+ we continue with the other side of scary phantoms. Phantoms have been enemies LQ were afraid of, unknown in FVM, openly marching in BKSD, and manipulative/deceptive in PLR, so next we do ambushing enemies, those you know could strike at any moment be they barbarian raiders or imperial schemers resulting in a slight ambush offense theme. We take full advantage of the Project rework, having only one tech that summons an army of beasts then have projects about first hunting for the echo a great beast and composing a piece/tech to them (e.g. a Wolf that buffs the pack), then second taking our own memories to develop our understanding of them like making the tech more like CRX (unity buff), Meizhen (fear debuff), Cloud Tribes (speed harass) or Bloody Dream Weilu King (horde retribution) etc. so that it becomes a freeform Art about meditating on others, the past and our own experiences.
 
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Interlude: The White Blade Devil
AN: So going a little out of order here with the commissions but This one is definitely more appropriate for where we are in the story.


The first strike would be with the blade of the ninth sword law, striking at the intersection of Discipline and Pride, where untempered ego rotted the roots of the General's Sovereignty. Piercing this defence, her heart pearl would be wounded, allowing unleashed passions to degrade all further decisions.

"On this matter my authority supersedes yours sister," Bai Suzhen said calmly. "And being blunt, I find your objections to be irrational besides. My efforts will grant the army of Zhengjian access to superlative equipment."

"At what cost, sister?" asked her cousin, arching a perfect eyebrow. Like her, Bai Zhilan appeared by every physical metric as a paragon of the White Serpent. Her white hair spilled all the way to the ground, stopping just short of touching the base earth to be carried by invisible wind. A single dark violet flower was its only adornment.

The second strike would be with her primary armament, its eight ribbons would strike to sever the strings between the General and her Lieutenants. Failure was probable on the initial strike, but the attempt would place the General on the back foot.

"To use foreign goods to arm the first and greatest of our armies, even those crafted by a 'master' such as this Cai, is an insult to our clan, Bai Suzhen. Others have accepted the deals you have made, for they have been trades of trinkets and common goods. This agreement is beyond the pale."

"Father does not seem to believe so," Bai Suzhen replied absently, running a gleaming fingernail along the grain of the wooden desktop which filled the larger part of her office. Zhilan stood opposite her, stern faced and unamused. Bai Zhilan was unfortunately a figure she could not ignore. She too stood in the seventh realm, though Suzhen doubted her ability to attain the eighth. Her way held too many fault lines.

However, this did not stop those who opposed her from rallying at her cousin's call. It truly irritated Bai Suzhen, that tradition called for her to call such a blunt instrument 'sister'. "Bai Suzhen, it does not do you good to draw attention to your manipulation of our Clan Head's declining faculties."

"That is a most bold thing to say, Bai Zhilan," Bai Suzhen replied, letting the general's name drip from her lips like venom. So Zhilan and her supporters were already willing to make such statements. Concerning. Her father was a cruel man. He was a bitter and angry man. Most of all, he was a tired man. However, no rot had yet touched his soul

Most irritating.

The third strike would require her to wield the seventh blade, anointed in the Sovereignty of Clan, to sever at the root the blood that bound them and enable her to act without restraint.

"It is the only reasonable answer to why he would give approval to such an agreement. It still shocks me that you would even dare voice a proposal to trade any part of Grandmother's body to an outsider," Bai Zhilan replied, golden eyes narrow.

"One vial of powdered scale shavings, in exchange for five hundred sets of tailored gear crafted by the most skilled talisman maker of our age, and a further thousand sets of equipment made by her apprentices? It is an easy deal to make," Bai Suzhen replied, steepling her fingers in front of her face. "No, it is your sentimentality that I question Bai Zhilan. As if Grandmother Serpent, or Fabled Yao would disapprove of sharpening our fangs with every resource available when war is coming."

"Our ancestors would be shamed that you deem the Bai clan so weak as to require the aid of half-barbarous savages and their abomination of a queen to do so," Bai Zhilan said coldly. "But I see, as ever, that your brittle mind of steel is beyond reason. Know that your growing madness will not be unopposed."

"I would not have expected anything else. I welcome your aid in being sharpened for the headship, sister," Bai Suzhen replied.

The worst thing, she supposed, was that her cousin's opposition was not even born wholly from the intrusion into her sphere of influence, the army. No, genuine ideology fueled the greater part of her rage.

How troublesome.

The other woman turned on her heel, silhouette narrowing down to a blades edge as she vanished from Bai Suzhen's office, leaving behind the two silent guards, fourth realms the both of them, who had accompanied her to the doorway. Bai Suzhen's eyes fell upon them.

For them, the first strike would also be the last. The man's stance was too loose and he had a deformation in his respiratory pearl which would shatter under a single thrust of the second sword law, slaying him instantly. The woman's guard was weak on the right side, and her understanding of the Law of Steel flawed, a single palm strike would shatter her. Brittle blades both. How shameful.

The both of them bowed low, their faces pale as they made excuses and followed their Mistress.

As the door of her office closed, Bai Suzhen closed her eyes and for a single moment allowed herself to grit her teeth. It often felt that she would need to fight her fellows as much as the accursed Sun to lead the Bai from these trying times.

She sat in silence for a time meditating on the actions she would need to take to shore up her support in the face of more openly hostile opposition.

A gentle knock sounded on her door.

"Who comes," Bai Suzhen said without opening her eyes.

"It is but humble Lushen, with the lady's tea."

She knew of course, but it was...pleasureable to play at mortal foibles in this case. "Be welcome and enter."

Her husband silently drifted through the door of her office, scentless, transparent vapor slipping between the cracks in wood and formation to appear before her. He was a small man, half a head shorter than her and thin even for a Bai, His complexion was a shade darker than hers, touched by the sun, and his hair hung in loose ringlets to his shoulders, a shade of violet so dark that it could have been mistaken for a Xiao's black in the right light. His face was as narrow and handsome as any proper Bai man, and a pair of small spectacles perched on his nose, which he adjusted as he bowed low, keeping the tea tray level with his chest.

The first strike would not be needed, for there was no threat to kith or kin here.

"You are two minutes and fifty seven seconds later than the appointed time," Bai Suzhen said without heat.

"I apologize, my lady wife. I was caught up in a fascinating bit of experimentation," Xia Lushen of the Violet Sea Snakes replied.

"More fascinating than our luncheon," Bai Suzhen said, leaning back in her chair as he placed out the tea. She inhaled the scent of the leaves. A relaxing blend.

"I would never imply such, I am but an absent minded craftsman. Forgive me Suzhen," he said.

"Do try to be better, Lushen," Bai Suzhen replied, and he bowed again, but his smile never left. It was that quiet confidence that had endeared her to the genius of the Violet caste in the beginning.

Well, that was not entirely true. Witnessing the work of engineered disease spirits in destroying the encroaching jungle flora of the north had been the first thing to bring him to her attention. Such death, wrought without a single soldier's boots upon the tainted earth, was a work of art.

Personal affection had come later, with time and understanding. Xia Lushen understood, better than any save her sister Meilin, the urgency of undoing the complacent corrosion which had so weakened their clan.

"I was delayed somewhat, the palace is in a bit of turmoil," he commented absently, pouring out their cups. He sat down upon a drifting strand of vapor which curled around his body, emitting from one of the many vials and flasks which poked from the pockets and pouches which studded and hid among his voluminous sea grey robes. "I take it your cousins are moving?"

"They are," Bai Suzhen said, and in the privacy of her husband's company she allowed herself to vent some frustration. She had underestimated just how much support rivals like Zhilan had been able to gather and the sheer strength of the isolationist thought which ran through her people. She was gaining strength and support. As the southern roads were repaired and rebuilt and the riverboats began to flow, prosperity was coming back to the Thousand Lakes.

But it was slow. As the incident at the border with that idiot green caste child showed, stupidity could move with the speed of a lightning bolt. The problem was that she had not broken through to the Eighth realm yet. The same stubborn conservatism which dogged her heels now would ensure obedience from most of the White Serpents once she had achieved the pinnacle of might.

"Power and victory need no excuses," Xia Lushen said absently as her words slowed to a stop.

"Indeed, yet to rush for ascendance is also foolish," Bai Suzhen said sourly. The previous heir of the clan had shown that, crippling themselves and plunging all the way to the barest beginnings of the Sixth realm.

And in the end despite everything she was not looking forward to taking that last step.

"I understand what you must do, this has been coming for many decades, Suzhen," her husband said calmly.

Those of lower cultivation did not often understand well what it meant to achieve the highest realm. But she was of the seventh. She had glimpsed that summit and she knew its truth. She had already sacrificed so much to rise to where she was, carving away everything which did not fit the Sovereign she had become.The Eighth realm stripped even more than that.

She was the White Blade Devil, The Carver of Roads and Rivers, wielder of the Sovereign word Prosperity. Yet she remained Bai Suzhen. To take the next step would be to surrender even that and become her Law in totality.

"I wonder at that, our ally in the south raises many questions with her existence," Bai Suzhen said.

"Suzhen, it is best not to contemplate another's ascension, that way is futile," her husband sighed. "Particularly with that one."

Suzhen made a sound of agreement and yet she could not forget. She had seen behind the mask of flesh the being which had once been, seen the word which was at her core. It was not a word which should have allowed its wielder love.

That woman was an aberration among aberrations though, Lushen was right. "I hope at least that you will care for my niece when I am no longer able. I know you desired children and I have regretted not being able to accommodate that."

"Naturally," Xia Lushen said. "I am looking forward to meeting her, come this year's end."
 
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That woman was an aberration among aberrations though, Lushen was right. "I hope at least that you will care for my niece when I am no longer able. I know you desired children and I have regretted not being able to accommodate that."

"Naturally," Xi Lushen said. "I am looking forward to meeting her, come this year's end."

Awesome we are meeting Suzhen's husband who seems like a nice guy! And he's probably gonna be a cool adoptive father for Meizhen! New uncle get!

Also notice that Shenhua shouldn't be able to love. She somehow managed to keep that when she ascended. Her cheat must be even more potent than we think to let her do that.
 
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One vial of powdered scale shavings, in exchange for five hundred sets of tailored gear crafted by the most skilled talisman maker of our age, and a further thousand sets of equipment made by her apprentices?
The White Plume regiment numbers 1,000, I think? This deal gives Cai Shenhua a Great Spirit tier reagent in exchange for talismans fit to outfit half her own elite force and double that from her apprentices.

What does Cai Shenhua want the scale powder for? It's not for a dress for Bai Suzhen; that would have been a whole deal in and of itself, I think. The scale should be Metal and Water aspected -- it shouldn't be for Diao Linqin, either. Perhaps it's for Cai Tienli's dress?

"I hope at least that you will care for my niece when I am no longer able. I know you desired children and I have regretted not being able to accommodate that."
And so Meizhen loses yet another mother.
 
Not that my opinion matters a lot in this lol, but I wouldn't mind more out of order commissions in the future if it felt like it was complementing the current narrative.
 
I expect the scale powder is for her own works, a work at the capital Xiangmen, or a work at the Throne. If Cai Shenhua is expecting that Red Garden is going to rise and war against the Empire it could also be for a potent defensive work along the border of Meng and Red Garden. Thousand Lakes has long remained uncorrupted by the Red Garden, and that's likely due to Grandmother Serpent's influence.

Half-Barbarous Savages and their Abomination Queen? To look on that Glorious Tyrant Mother and call her abomination? Bahahaha, someone's jelly they can't cheat lol

And we are told, explicitly, that White annihilates the person that was in favor of a human shaped Law that will push for ascension. It's unsurprising that Jiao was unable to serve his friend An once An reached White, as his friend had annihilated himself. This also continues to build Shenhua up as a paradox, which is great because we love to cultivate paradox hehe


Power and Victory need no Excuses is an interesting precept to hold to as a conservative ideal that is held also by the reformers. There being no need for excuses doesn't preclude the ability to provide explanation, which was ultimately what failed the Bai when they refused to explain the reason they didn't plunge into Red Garden. The Bai would consider such explanations an unnecessary kindness, perhaps weakness. That said I think Meizhen is forming a Way that understands the benefits of intersocial conflict and cooperation beyond coercion, dominance and submission.

Her recent picking up of area denial skills, and her uncle's focus on disease as a tool to control area, makes me think that she will once more find herself strengthened through her intersocial bonds which are not purely coercion, dominance and submission.
 
It's a fourth realm talisman that's been declared safe by a master of liminal works... Biyu certainly isn't going to break the thing.
I am more concerned for Biyu making or inviting an Ḭ̷͋m̸̬̐a̵̦͆ġ̶̣ȋ̷̦ǹ̸̦a̸̦̔ř̷̬y̶̼͆ ̴̟̾F̴͇͑ṛ̷̿i̷͔̔e̷̠̍n̷̛̰ḏ̸̃ with it than the talisman breaking.
 
Suzhen made a sound of agreement and yet she could not forget. She had seen behind the mask of flesh the being which had once been, seen the word which was at her core. It was not a word which should have allowed its wielder love.

That's easy to explain. Shenhua was (is?) a xianxia protagonist. Heaven bends over backwards to accommodate her journey. She probably broke into the heavenly department responsible for defining such concepts, scratched the word LOVE next to the definition of her Law, and then left, leaving a trail of broken cannon fodder behind.
 
It's a fourth realm talisman that's been declared safe by a master of liminal works... Biyu certainly isn't going to break the thing.
I think they're more worried she will be safe from it. It was used to scrawl madness and hate for centuries, what if it starts whispering? What if she draws a fairy and it becomes a Moon spirit hunting down the slaves of the Cai or starts scheming chaos and rebellion?
 
I think they're more worried she will be safe from it. It was used to scrawl madness and hate for centuries, what if it starts whispering? What if she draws a fairy and it becomes a Moon spirit hunting down the slaves of the Cai or starts scheming chaos and rebellion?
We just had the expert say that it is safe at least until it develops an object spirit of its own, and that it should be used for mundane painting so the spirit is less obnoxious. Unless 'mundane painting' meant 'mundane painting while a cultivator hovers around ready to incinerate any suspicious looking art', I'm quite sure it will be fine.
 
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I think they're more worried she will be safe from it. It was used to scrawl madness and hate for centuries, what if it starts whispering? What if she draws a fairy and it becomes a Moon spirit hunting down the slaves of the Cai or starts scheming chaos and rebellion?
What part of "declared safe by a master of liminal works" did you not understand? If there was a serious risk of it whispering madness to the people that used it I'd expect that Cai Luwen would have mentioned that, because there's zero chance he would have missed something like that. The fact that it was used to scrawl hate and madness for centuries is why he specifically mentions not leaving it to stew in the ring and letting it absorb happier feelings and letting it be used for mundane painting.

Given all that, the absolute worst thing I expect to happen from letting Biyu use it to paint is 1: Biyu draws the attention of a great spirit of Artisans (either Dreaming Moon or Dawn Sun), or 2: she accidently animates a bunch of stick figures. This fire and brimstone bullshit isn't going to happen.
 
Honestly, my biggest concern about letting Biyu use the brush would be her losing it somewhere in an entirely mundane way. We'd definitely need to have someone watching her whenever she's using it and keep it somewhere she can't retrieve it herself.
 
White Blade Devil, The Carver of Roads and Rivers, wielder of the Sovereign word Prosperity
Nice, reminded me of K6BD, good memories, was glad to see a reference to another awesome series. I'm curious though, is it inadvertent semblance due to shared asian culture concepts or explicitly an homage? Has Yrsillar ever mentioned he is a fan, or am I seeing things?
 
Suzhen made a sound of agreement and yet she could not forget. She had seen behind the mask of flesh the being which had once been, seen the word which was at her core. It was not a word which should have allowed its wielder love.

This has got to be some sort of fuckery with objects spirits hasn't it?


Like, if we presuppose some facts it seems to suggest a certain interpretation of events:

1st presupposition:

Cai Shenhua knew that Renxiang seeing her as a young girl would utterly wreck her soul. She is after all, a highly experienced cultivator in the white.

2nd presupposition:

Cai Shenhua didn't hurt her daughter for shits and giggles.


This means there was a definitive purpose for breaking Renxiang in such a way and then putting her back together like she did.

We know that the pieces of Renxiang that were formed into Liming were the more emotional and maybe "human" elements of Renxiang:

Renxiang didn't answer her for quite a while, instead looking toward the mirror in silence. Just as Ling Qi was thinking to speak up again though, the heiress moved. Still staring into the mirror, Renxiang traced her fingers along the red pattern on her chest. "You know, I wonder sometimes if I am the craftwork, and Liming the girl."

Ling Qi frowned in concern. "Why would you…"

"I am aware that my rigidity and the justice I seek are not natural, my… focus and drive are not normal. Rather, is not an unending well of anger the far more human thing to feel, in the face of what was done?" Cai Renxiang spoke over her, not really seeming to notice her words.

The light in Liming's threads burned, and Ling Qi swore she could see the eyespots in the pattern narrowing in the mirror. The air thrummed with bloodlust even as Cai Renxiang's grip on the hilt of her saber turned white knuckled. She could almost hear the scream of rage locked behind the blade.

In particular, the way Cai Renxiang describes herself mimics the behaviour of higher tier cultivators - an unnatural drive, and an inability to be ideologically flexible - those sound very familiar concepts. In fact, our recent look at her father shows how he pretty much exemplifies those aspects of cultivation.

We also know that Cai Shenhua has somehow - despite being a white - held onto a vestige of humanity.

That means that Cai Renxiang - who has not integrated herself with Liming - is less human than she should be for her cultivation level, while Shenhua is more human than she should be.

So hypothesis time:

The object spirits Cai Shenhua creates from people allow them to "bank" humanity so-to-speak, until the cultivator reintegrates them.

For a hypothetical example, if for every stage of cultivation you lose 10% of your humanity it'd go something like this for a normal cultivator:

Untrained100
1st Realm90
2nd Realm81
3rd Realm72
4th Realm65
5th Realm59
6th Realm53
7th Realm47
8th Realm43

With Cai's technique on the other hand it might go something like this:

Untrained100
Post Cai Object Spirit Creation
80 (20)
1st Realm72 (20)
2nd Realm64 (20)
3rd Realm58 (20)
4th Realm52 (20)
5th Realm47 (20)
6th Realm42 (20)
7th Realm38 (20)
8th Realm34 (20)
8th Realm Post Reintegration54

Presumably Cai Shenhua figured out how to do this either by accident or by her own research, and Renxiang is her first proper "test" of it as a cultivation method.

It may also explain why Cai Shenhua cultivated so quickly - AFAIK, one of the reason cultivation becomes harder in the further stages due to how you have to cut away more and more of yourself, and at the later stages that becomes increasingly difficult to pare away the last parts. But if Cai Shenhua reintegrated her cut-off parts at say, the 6th or 7th realm, then she'd have far more material to cut away to form the 8th Realm.

Of course, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Apart from the ethical quandaries of the whole "break a child's soul into pieces" bit, it still remains that locking up most of your human emotions and foibles in a dark room for potentially 70+ years is not particularly healthy. Liming has only been sequestered inside Renxiang's soul for less than a decade, and is already pretty feral.

It also seems to remove the users ability to form spirit bonds naturally, and limits the person to within a radius of said object spirit.

"I can only assume. I am not privy to her methods," Cai Renxiang said. "I do know that I am unable to form normal spirit bonds, and that Liming cannot be attuned to any other person. I cannot even be very far from it for long periods of time."
 
Jiao's inability to go White becomes even more concrete. Xin is too much to give up
Even before that, his Way cracked badly because he based it on a person, and said person dissappointed him so much when/how/why he reached White that he just found himself in a lose-lose situation.

So Jiao 'retired' and moved to the Argent Sect to live out his remaining years with Xin ever by his side.
 
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Oh yeah, I forgot. Hmm. I wonder though...if LQ tries to keep it on the DL because Bao Qian warned her what it'd do to her rep, Shenhua would smell a secret. I wonder if Shenhua just sheds light on all secrets in her vicinity or if she allows people some control over their privacy. I guess we'll see.
Even if she does, there are levels of secret. Some people are keeping it quiet that they're attracted to people of the same gender, others are insisting that no really, they're so happy to see their cousin come over for dinner with no warning, and a few are plotting to assassinate her to try to plunge the Emerald Seas into war. Everyone (whose Way doesn't prevent it) keeps secrets from everyone, all the time. For a secret sensing ability to be useful, you need to be able to sense the...magnitude of the secret, or how dangerous it is. Or just know exactly what they're hiding automatically, I guess.
 
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What part of "declared safe by a master of liminal works" did you not understand? If there was a serious risk of it whispering madness to the people that used it I'd expect that Cai Luwen would have mentioned that, because there's zero chance he would have missed something like that. The fact that it was used to scrawl hate and madness for centuries is why he specifically mentions not leaving it to stew in the ring and letting it absorb happier feelings and letting it be used for mundane painting.

Given all that, the absolute worst thing I expect to happen from letting Biyu use it to paint is 1: Biyu draws the attention of a great spirit of Artisans (either Dreaming Moon or Dawn Sun), or 2: she accidently animates a bunch of stick figures. This fire and brimstone bullshit isn't going to happen.
Was thinking more that the cultivation gap between it and a mortal might be large enough for even a latent item spirit to influence her. A largely speculative consideration, given that as far as we know items without awakened spirits are completely inanimate.
"One vial of powdered scale shavings, in exchange for five hundred sets of tailored gear crafted by the most skilled talisman maker of our age, and a further thousand sets of equipment made by her apprentices? It is an easy deal to make," Bai Suzhen replied, steepling her fingers in front of her face. "No, it is your sentimentality that I question Bai Zhilan. As if Grandmother Serpent, or Fabled Yao would disapprove of sharpening our fangs with every resource available when war is coming."

"Our ancestors would be shamed that you deem the Bai clan so weak as to require the aid of half-barbarous savages and their abomination of a queen to do so," Bai Zhilan said coldly.
...she does know that the Bai's rise to power came with trading the tin needed to make bronze right?
 
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