DangerKitty
shoddy writter
- Location
- lala land
[] Let things lie for now, you'll tell him later but not ask for any favors. [No Wang Clan negotiations next turn. Lean toward limiting count clan involvement.]
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Nice to see Xiulan got around to sending that letter. Also interested to see more talk on the adoption option.
On the vote, not sure if we'd spread ourselves too thin trying to have our cake and eat it but working off a pre-existing connection to increase influence with nobility in our home province seems a good idea to me. Our choice of diplomat over sect disciple might move us away from allies and home politics but that seems a good reason to strengthen what connections we can while we can.
On the vote, not sure if we'd spread ourselves too thin trying to have our cake and eat it but working off a pre-existing connection to increase influence with nobility in our home province seems a good idea to me. Our choice of diplomat over sect disciple might move us away from allies and home politics but that seems a good reason to strengthen what connections we can while we can.
doesn't make us stable either
Ultimately, the Wang are one of the border counts, so keeping them on side is important.
I'd also say that, broadly, we and Renxiang lean more towards trying to bring everyone along and work together, rather than Shenhua's more autocratic attitude. We're trying to be more humanising here.
I'd say that at the very least sending the message that we understand that they have interests here and that we aren't going to ignore them is important.
I'd also say that, broadly, we and Renxiang lean more towards trying to bring everyone along and work together, rather than Shenhua's more autocratic attitude. We're trying to be more humanising here.
I'd say that at the very least sending the message that we understand that they have interests here and that we aren't going to ignore them is important.
- Location
- Colorado
The thing is we don't need a formations expert for that. Stuff like wards around settlements are the kind of basic imperial technology that no one bothers restricting information on. We can probably design the basic formations for a settlement ourselves even with our rusty formations skills and hire a specialized yellow 'expert' and some red workers to implement/maintain them. For more important stuff like our house we should certainly hire a Green expert (Li Suyin if she has the time), but there's no need to keep an actual expert on hand for mere maintenance. Not until we have an actual city or something.
Medicine is similar, even a Red medicine maker is invaluable to a mortal village, and our clan is a bit too small to justify hiring a Green doctor just for our family. A Yellow doctor might be worth the expense, but I'm not even sold on that yet, it might be more efficient to have a well stocked 'first aid kit'. For any kind of serious sickness infecting someone we care about we have the transportation capabilities to either go to a doctor or bring one to us
Also, Woohoo Xiulan letter!
Better to have them on the inside pissing out than on the outside pissing in as they say.
- Location
- United States
Let's solve all these issues and just adopt li suyin : p
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- Location
- CA
I agree with both of these, but also, in relation to this part:
Regardless of whether or not we bring anyone in, people are still going to say that this affects their interest in way X and therefore they want change Y because at some level this affects everyone. If nothing else, it changes the definition of "barbarian," which is a big cultural shift, and people are going to have opinions about that. Not bringing anyone in doesn't mean that we can avoid catering to people, it means that we can't be sure we'll have anyone to point to so that we can say, "Hey, we're not opposed to reasonable concessions." And if we initiate reaching out, then we get more control over when and how that happens, and we can be much more sure that will happen before the first time we have to say no.
I'm in favor.
In terms of profits? Yes, being the exclusive dealer is far more profitable, and you get to control the whole process so theres less risk of triggering offense. If it turns out the Wang strongly object you could even have the project be actively hindered(unlikely given what we know of their stance)
But the issue is that we don't really have the capacity(short of being County sized) to make full use of that profit anyway, so, more advantage for our clan, less for the province.
Xiulan!!! 😍 😍
She left at the end of Turn 7, I believe, and right now it's the beginning of Turn 12. A difference of roughly 3 months, meaning the communication lag time between Golden Fields and Emerald Seas is roughly 1 month.
Yeesh, the lag is probably worsened due to the inhospitable geography of Golden Fields, and that's not a great logistical problem to have for an Empire. Probably why the Imperial centralization project is so difficult. (Though, I wonder, what was An's answer to the communication lag? The Imperial Hammer Sect is based on architecture, which can be useful for communications, but their focus is on fortifications.)
One of the cons for the diplomacy route was that some factions among the Emerald Seas' nobility wouldn't value any accomplishment in the foreign arena. Renxiang noted that malus could be mitigated with dedicated effort, and Ling Qi noted that elevating supporters of the their foreign diplomacy efforts via the diplomacy's bennies could also offset the malus.
In this light, the vote is part one of how Renxiang's standing among the Emerald Seas' nobility could be elevated: bringing count clan investment into the diplomatic mission's success on the outset, or Renxiang handing out the fruits of success afterwards.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Remember that story of the Weilu High King who's daughter married an Ice Witch male? Part of the problem with his efforts was that none of his subjects bought into and supported him, so his changes wound up dying with him. Everyone was too distrustful of the foreigner and those associated with him. Getting buy in encourages some people to trust us, which forces others to trust or wind up insulting significant portions of the Province.
[] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. [Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.]
This is what I'm voting for.
[] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. [Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.]
This is what I'm voting for.
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NoxOfUmbra
Shadow of the night
- Location
- Colombia, South América
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. [Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.]
2 reasons:
1) The Wang are the southernmost count clan of Emerald Seas, their focus should be, in consequence to the south with the Cloud Barbarians, any big project involving the ES and WS will need in some form their infrastructure, having them in the loop will assure us a good neighbor and will tie them, imperial moderates, to our star.
2) This is about lean to involve the other count clans, not just the Wang, meaning we present a united front, which makes it more difficult to oppose and sabotage, it isn´t just CRX who you are pissing if this goes wrong, it assures that everyone is invested in the success of this project. Yes, we lose some advantage in the short term, but this will pay off way better later, I think.
2 reasons:
1) The Wang are the southernmost count clan of Emerald Seas, their focus should be, in consequence to the south with the Cloud Barbarians, any big project involving the ES and WS will need in some form their infrastructure, having them in the loop will assure us a good neighbor and will tie them, imperial moderates, to our star.
2) This is about lean to involve the other count clans, not just the Wang, meaning we present a united front, which makes it more difficult to oppose and sabotage, it isn´t just CRX who you are pissing if this goes wrong, it assures that everyone is invested in the success of this project. Yes, we lose some advantage in the short term, but this will pay off way better later, I think.
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I loved this scene. Poor Yu Nuan triggered our domain hard. That was a really cool reaction that happened, and I think it's helping Qi really think on what her family means to her. Thinking about that is likely to help identifying a solution to our heart demon issues. I'm looking forward to getting closer to our soon-to-be sister!
Biyu just wants a puppy, new big sister is a bonus! Hanyi might be a little jealous as inducting the person who beat Hanyi in a music duel has to smart, however getting a chance to eventually prove that she's better might sooth those feelings. Great update!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I can't see any great reasons to NOT include as many influential people as possible other than sharing the potential reputation gains from success with more people.
It seems absolutely one sided that inclusion of the count clans is the way to go, especially if this potentially gives us new husbando options. Beyond that any contacts we make in our first independent venture could be extremely useful when we do shift our focus to setting up our barony. We could end up with massive boosts in infrastructure, industry, administration and more simply by knowing the right people from nearby settlements, towns, and cities.
For me this is an easy:
[] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. [Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.]
It seems absolutely one sided that inclusion of the count clans is the way to go, especially if this potentially gives us new husbando options. Beyond that any contacts we make in our first independent venture could be extremely useful when we do shift our focus to setting up our barony. We could end up with massive boosts in infrastructure, industry, administration and more simply by knowing the right people from nearby settlements, towns, and cities.
For me this is an easy:
[] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. [Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.]
I think opening negotiations with the Wang is just good sense, the reason Ling Qi went to Wang Chao was because of his family's specializations in defensive tactics and fortifications (and thus the breaking thereof), getting Wang investment means that the new fief will have stronger defenses and more developed tactics for the fief's soldiery giving Renxiang the best chance of minimizing the blood on her hands.
Yeah Ling Qi and CRX dont have the strength to make a monopoly on trade south with this opportunity.
But they can become fixtures of the diplomatic efforts as a go between with the white sky, so involving more counts is to their advantage.
- Location
- Spain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You convinced me!! Defensive tactics and fortifications!!!
I didn't remember the specialization of Wang clan... 😅
[X] Explain the situation to Wang Chao, and see if he can put you in contact with any helpful relatives. (Opens Wang clan negotiations for next turn. Lean toward expanding count clan involvement.)
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