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[X] To journey and seek knowledge is virtue unto itself
[X] Do not take insight from Roaming Moon's Eye
[X] Do not take insight from Roaming Moon's Eye
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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Well if one is uncertain of what will occur if nothing is done, and also uncertain of what will occur as a result of any action taken, that could certainly also lead to indifference. It really depends on the degree to which one cares about the outcome. The greater the concern, the more likely the decision paralysis, the lower the concern, the greater the indifference.
Not automatically no, but it can if there is no balancing insight that it is often necessary to act even when one is uncertain. Getting stuck on uncertainties whose magnitude one is also uncertain about is a recipe for decision paralysis. I've seen it happen to plenty of people in real life. It's why I'm uncomfortable with highlighting uncertainty to this degree in Ling Qi's spiritual development.
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Something like "There is no peace in emptiness, no content in stillness. Stagnation is death; act, change, move, think, and grow until the very end," then?
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[X] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
"The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming"
Directly contradicts
"Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end."
Directly contradicts
"Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end."
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...No it doesn't directly contradict it. One says that you never know what the future holds, that you can never know whats coming--its a statement. The other says that suffering has worth if the result can benefit your loved ones--its a goal to be strived towards.
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No, it doesn't. If insights directly contradicted ones we already had, they wouldn't be available. That's what it means for an art to be incompatible. You'll note that Ephemeral Night's Memory only offered one possible insight instead of the usual two or the occasional three; probably the other lesson(s) possible to take from it were incompatible with LQ's domain. Any argument for any insight that hinges on "this directly contradicts an insight already in our domain" is automatically invalid.
Now, could a situation arise where these insights conflict, despite not being in outright contradiction? Maybe? I guess I can sort of see it if I squint: I think your argument is "wanting to present something of beauty to those you care for at the end of a path might be undercut by not being certain that this can happen"? But I don't see that happening. Not being certain is a very different animal from not believing something is going to happen. It's epistemic humility, not epistemic helplessness. 100% is not a real confidence level, and this insight internalizes that.
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[X] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
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I don't see how?
No, it just means that it is impossible to fully assess the value of a path until after its done.
Think of it like going to the supermarket and finding out there's a really nice sale on produce. The fact that you got cheap quality lettuce helped make the trip worthwhile but you didn't that was going to be the case ahead of time.
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[X] The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming
I'm not entirely sure that weaving uncertainty into the fabric of her being is a good thing, but this option is the more attractive of the two nonetheless.
We've definitely established that LQ is not a Hidden Moon kinda person, so while a knowledge-seeking Insight might be an interesting addition to her Domain, I'm more interested in reinforcing and folding existing themes to see how far we can take it.
I'm not entirely sure that weaving uncertainty into the fabric of her being is a good thing, but this option is the more attractive of the two nonetheless.
We've definitely established that LQ is not a Hidden Moon kinda person, so while a knowledge-seeking Insight might be an interesting addition to her Domain, I'm more interested in reinforcing and folding existing themes to see how far we can take it.
I'm still deeply uncomfortable with internalizing uncertainty as a core part of her being, but I will grant that this seems to cover decision paralysis, if not indifference.
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I think it might actually manifest as not be complacent or overconfident. Instead always ensure that you're prepared for the future. Someone also characterized it as self-doubt which I think is deff wrong. This insight is more likely to have Ling Qi preparing for multiple things in the future. Its a very adult perspective, wanting to be prepared for anything. She has a family that she is responsible for, it makes sense that her character would become more cautious.
I'd agree that we aren't the typical adherent to the hidden moon, but I definitely don't think that she's not a "Hidden Moon kinda person". Our personal cultivation art Song Seekers Ceremony definitely has very strong hidden themes for instance. As Yinhui says:
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The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming .
I like to imagine, this winning and Yrisillar going "This means, you don't get to see the odds of success the dice rolls anymore. Because, you can't be certain of how things will turn out!"
That'd sure be an interesting way to let an insight have a meta effect on the quest, heh.
I like to imagine, this winning and Yrisillar going "This means, you don't get to see the odds of success the dice rolls anymore. Because, you can't be certain of how things will turn out!"
That'd sure be an interesting way to let an insight have a meta effect on the quest, heh.