Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Gan Guangli is a nice colleague, but I think he's basically irrelevant on this trip as a character. His most relevant purpose in the narrative of this trip is to be Cai Renxiang's teddy bear and a foil for which to evaluate the evolution of Cai Renxiang as a person and her ideals. This is because he knows the Cai Renxiang of yesteryear, not the Cai Renxiang of today, and his reactions to Cai Renxiang display that.

Insofar as his presence on this trip is relevant to him as a character, he's here to whet the appetite, to foreshadow the strengths he's gained over the course of his year in the Outer Sect by himself and also a potential problem in him growing his domain and way separate and distinct from Cai Renxiang's, which was necessary for him but also meant he missed out on complementary insights from cultivators in close contact and most of a year of character development for Cai Renxiang while he was Mr.-Not-Appearing. The foreshadowed strengths will be significant to how he wins in the upcoming New Year's Tournament, which is his proper introduction arc wherein he shows off that he can be an equal and can pull his own weight, rather than a liability as others like Duchess Cai or Xia Lin may view him as.
 
While the order the characters ended up in is about what I expected, I'm surprised by the difference in votes between Xia Lin and Meng Dan. I felt like we knew them close to equally well, but it seemed like everyone who mentioned him thought we understood Xia way better.
 
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While the order the characters ended up in is about what I expected, I'm surprised by the difference in votes between Xia Lin and Meng Dan. I felt like we knew them close to equally well, but it seemed like everyone who mentioned him thought we understood Xia way better.

For at least some of us this wasn't a matter of who we knew better but rather who would be more capable of denying a fulfillment of their desires and choosing to face the world instead. I believe that making CRX actually happy with her life is well beyond the capacity of a Cyan spirit, even with illusions. Gan Guangli made the mistake of choosing the former once but many of us had faith in him learning his lesson. We know a relevant insight of Xia Lin's that we could invoke ("So is this your Glorious Dawn?"), which means she would likely succeed. Which leaves Meng Dan.

Of our party, Meng Dan is the only one I do not trust to be able to break the illusion with our help and thus force Liming to activate. This is perhaps unfair to him but what little we know suggests that he may be extremely vulnerable to this sort of attack.
 
"Attention." She said. Her voice boomed strangely across the black plains. "Lady Ling celebrates her family's breakthrough. This tragedy however will not be ignored. Tomorrow Lady Ling will arrive and restore the village. Until then we will stand guard. Temporary housing will be provided for tonight." It was apparent that the commander had said all she intended to say given how she spun around and walked over to her fellow soldiers who were struggling to set up tents. Fields of loose ash didn't make great ground for tents apparently.
I think the thing I really don't like about this is how went into harmful neglect of the mortals. Like yeah, I don't see Ling Qi or her clan being particularly caring about the mortals under them, but I really can't see not taking steps to protect them from Zhengui's breakthrough. She would have had ample time to send evacuate/prepare all the nearby villages of what was going to happen and when. It would be less like a panicked evacuation into a bunker in the face of an attack and more like several days of retreat into a secure place with all personal belongings and valuables that could be moved.

I like the concept of the omake, what is life like for a commoner and what would a highlevel breakthrough be like for the surrounding environs, but Ling Qi has been confronted several times by how the common people can suffer because of Immortals, and I don't see her letting that extend to those under her responsibility.
 
I think the thing I really don't like about this is how went into harmful neglect of the mortals. Like yeah, I don't see Ling Qi or her clan being particularly caring about the mortals under them, but I really can't see not taking steps to protect them from Zhengui's breakthrough. She would have had ample time to send evacuate/prepare all the nearby villages of what was going to happen and when. It would be less like a panicked evacuation into a bunker in the face of an attack and more like several days of retreat into a secure place with all personal belongings and valuables that could be moved.

I like the concept of the omake, what is life like for a commoner and what would a highlevel breakthrough be like for the surrounding environs, but Ling Qi has been confronted several times by how the common people can suffer because of Immortals, and I don't see her letting that extend to those under her responsibility.

It was due to enemy action. The area around Zhengui was warded but the wards were sabotaged. The bunker was a plan B that was apparently capable of surviving the equivalent of a volcanic eruption, which means that it can potentially survive a Cyan or possibly Indigo attack. That's a huge investment for what seems like a pretty irrelevant village.

Despite the Ling clan being under attack, they sent soldiers to help basically immediately and Ling Qi herself will be coming by the following day to help them rebuild.

By the standards of the empire this would be the Ling going well above and beyond what is expected of them. Its just that even that isn't enough to fully protect the mortals under their care.
 
Of our party, Meng Dan is the only one I do not trust to be able to break the illusion with our help and thus force Liming to activate. This is perhaps unfair to him but what little we know suggests that he may be extremely vulnerable to this sort of attack.
Maybe, of Xia Lin's stubbornness might make her near-impossible to sway, while Meng Dan's perception helps him realize something is wrong more easily.
 
For at least some of us this wasn't a matter of who we knew better but rather who would be more capable of denying a fulfillment of their desires and choosing to face the world instead. I believe that making CRX actually happy with her life is well beyond the capacity of a Cyan spirit, even with illusions. Gan Guangli made the mistake of choosing the former once but many of us had faith in him learning his lesson. We know a relevant insight of Xia Lin's that we could invoke ("So is this your Glorious Dawn?"), which means she would likely succeed. Which leaves Meng Dan.

Of our party, Meng Dan is the only one I do not trust to be able to break the illusion with our help and thus force Liming to activate. This is perhaps unfair to him but what little we know suggests that he may be extremely vulnerable to this sort of attack.
We know Cai Renxiang's dream is creating a perfect society, without the flaws and corruption her mother reveal to her when she Awoke. She might not believe it's possible to achieve within her lifetime but she does believe in doing it step by step, every person doing their part and her potential being larger than most. So all the dream would have to show is Renxiang's version of our dream, only instead of a place of escape it's a city or region under her rule where everyone is happy and working together to set an example and advance the cause of civilization. She doesn't have to become Empress and have her every desire realized any more than Ling Qi did in her own dream, she just needs to feel like she made a perfect start.

And that's the vulnerability to it. Because for all that her dream would be a happy one it has to mean something and be a step towards a brighter future for her to be truly satisfied. Cai Renxiang can't be happy with a lie and that's why she's the best choice for this vote.
 
Management
"And that is a deal struck my friend!" Bao Qian said cheerfully. He extended his hand, and the Baron Fu grasped it. Their storage rings flashed, and Bao Qian felt the satisfying clatter of spirit stones spilling into his emptied storage space.

Baron Fu gave a sharp nod as he stood. An older gentlemen, just getting into his second century, with a short well kept beard and topknot shot through with grey, he was the first customer Bao Qian had on the agenda today. The sale couldn't have gone better. The crate the baron had been examining lay open, filled with soft gray ash that still smelled faintly of burning wood.

"You were not exaggerating about the potency of the material young man," the baron said gruffly, releasing his hand. "This will serve my clan's fields well in the spring."

Bao Qian nodded enthusiastically. This would boost business significantly. So far he'd dealt with intermediaries and lesser clan members, gaining the baron as a customer was quite a coup. The Fu family were among the more prosperous southern farming clans, providing elixir and pill materials for all manner of staple mixtures.

More importantly, the man's clan competitors would not wish to leave him with an advantage for long. "I certainly wish you the greatest prosperity, so that you might be inclined to purchase in higher bulk next time," Bao Qian said easily. His clan had a reputation, and he found that things worked out better when he leaned into it.

The baron let out a huff of laughter. "Naturally, we will have to see how the testing with our crops proceeds," he grunted, stroking his beard. There was a faint rumble of thunder then, and Baron Fu glanced to the south, good humor draining from his gaze.

The clouds on the horizon were dark, as they had been for weeks now. Bao Qian had seen the people of the Ganshu valley preparing the floodworks throughout his journey.

"Assuming we have a next year," Baron Fu said.

"Worry not my friend," Bao Qian said. While some might look to emergency as a chance for a quick profit, he was of the mind that customers looking to the future were better for business. "Have you not heard? Her grace intends to come south herself. The tribes won't know what hit them!"

The older man slowly shook his head. "Oh I don't expect another Ogodei, and my great grandfather lived through that too. But that doesn't mean my fields will be here afterward."

Bao Qian felt his smile dim a bit, and nodded more gravely. "Well, if it comes to that, I will put a word in for you with my Father. I am certain a little loan will get things running smoothly again in short order."

He disliked trading on his Father's name, but pride had no place when speaking of the devastation warring high realms could bring.

"I am not so certain my own liege would appreciate the interference," Baron Fu said dryly.

"I am certain the Wang would be reasonable," Bao Qian said humbly. "We are all folk of the Emerald Seas."

The baron gave him the sort of look which only an old man could give to a young man spouting foolishness, but nodded. "Perhaps. I'm afraid I have other business to attend to today, young lord, as do you I am sure. We will meet in three months to discuss the next sale?"

Bao Qian agreed, and they traded a few more customary pleasantries. Unfortunately the sour subject matter had removed his chance to improve the man's disposition much. Strolling back toward his wagon, Bao Qian manifested a single red stone in his hand, to idly flip between his fingers. It didn't help that the Baron was not wrong. The other counts had many reasons to distrust Bao deals.

His Grandfather had seen to that, with his predatory practices during the time of Ogodei and after. Although his own father and uncles had ousted the man before he could complete his attempt to join the Celestial Peaks during the Duchess' rise, too many had known for it to remain secret.

It was a shame though, Bao Qian mused, listening to the sound of the stone clicking against his rings. The seed that the Duchess had planted, and his Uncle, Count Bao was tending, was such a fragile thing. The idea of an Emerald Seas as a thing beyond a location and a collection of squabbling clans was so very fragile.

Reaching his wagon, Bao Qian flipped the stone up and caught it, letting it vanish back into storage. Well, plans were plans, but he had three more meetings before it was time to return to the Sect and indulge in his little… passion project.


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"You're late," the corpse-child huffed, tapping her bare foot impatiently.

"I," Bao Qian said with great dignity, letting his wagon roll to a stop in the yard he had rented. Meeting her dead white eyes was no longer unsettling. "Am exactly on time. You were early young miss."

She huffed, the very picture of a young girl trying far too hard to be an arrogant young miss. It reminded him of his own younger sister, trailing after his mother like a duckling. Beside her, the snoozing lump of a legendary beast, shrunk to the size of a large boulder, let out a rumbling snore. Because naturally it would be inappropriate for a young lady to meet an unrelated man alone. "That's the same thing, you shouldn't make ladies wait."

Bao Qian let out a chuckle as he climbed down from the driver's seat. Dealing with Miss Ling's… siblings, was always a touch surreal. It presented an interesting puzzle though, that he could admit.

Yes, an interesting puzzle was the best way to describe the Baroness Ling Qi. "Ah, but a polite young lady does not put herself in a situation in which she must wait," he chided. "Both sides must play their parts you know."

She narrowed her eyes at him, clearly wondering if she was being humored, made fun of, or given legitimate advice. The answer was all three, naturally. "Whatever," she huffed. "You wanted to talk about new songs? Big Sis is busy with her Boss."

"I had wondered why she was not present," Bao Qian said shrewdly. He had made the offer to speak with her spirits on their own, but he'd never expected her to take him up on it. It was so difficult to tell where the lines of her trust lay. "The expedition I suppose."

"Yeah," Hanyi said, hopping up onto the shell of the Xuan wu to sit down, her chin in her hands. "She's super busy."

"Well, no trouble," Bao Qian said breezily, it was unfortunate, he'd have liked more time to work on her. Especially as she would be gone for a month. "I'd wanted to discuss some theming for future performances. You see, I've gathered information, and I believe that your appeal could be improved during the winter, if you present yourself as a ward against its ills for those places which host you. Do you think that within your sphere?"

The south Emerald Seas was still a deeply religious place, there was a strong benefit to playing into that market.

Hanyi frowned in thought. "I guess. I don't really understand spirit stuff. I think I could probably bully little spirits and stuff into being nice though. Do you think people will like that? Won't it make bigger spirits mad?"

"I wouldn't present it as bullying," Bao Qian said with a straight face. This girl was really not half as elegant as she liked to pretend. It was amusing in its way. "We would be careful not to intrude into larger spirits territories, but there are few major spirits of winter in the lowlands. Besides, would their adoration not make you the 'bigger' spirit?"

"Huh, that sounds pretty cool," Hanyi said with a grin. "Like this doofus and the village."
Bao Qian nodded, having little idea of what she was speaking, but context gave him a guess. He had noticed that Hanyi had little direction to her domain, an oddity for a spirit at her level. He may as well help out. "Because of that, I-"

She held up her hand. "Wait, before I forget, there's something I wanted to ask since Big Sis isn't here."

Bao Qian raised an eyebrow, curious at what made the young girl sound so grave. "And what is that?"

"Are you actually pursuing Sis or not?" Hanyi asked bluntly.

He frowned in consternation. "I would not think of it as a pursuit exactly. I am seeking an amicable agreement between us."

Bao Qian could admit, he had in some ways been disappointed with the baroness. As a lover of music, he had thought that they would have something in common, but as that…. Interesting dinner had shown, she was not precisely interested in the field as a whole. As an artist, she was very isolated.

However, he did find her playing enchanting, on those rare occasions he had caught snippets coming to a meeting. The bleak loneliness spoke to something in him. The drive that had seen him leave the halls of the Bao behind, seeking fortune in the margins.

"Yeah, whatever, that's nice and polite and all, but you're losing your chance being all passive and stuff," Hanyi said dismissively.

"Excuse me?" Bao Qian asked, bemused. "I will be honest, young miss, but I do not think your Senior Sister would appreciate an aggressive approach."

Hanyi's expression screwed up. "...Okay, you're not wrong. But like, you're still not doing enough. Sis is more like Momma than she likes to admit. She'll totally just leave things as they are forever unless something gives her a kick."

"A kick?" Bao Qian asked, morbidly curious where she was going with this. He had not planned for this turn of conversation. But that was what happened, when dealing with these people.

"I dunno, I'm not a guy, and like you said, Sis doesn't like aggressive guys. But you need to keep putting yourself in front of her, you know? Sis is kind of a blockhead sometimes, if you let her, she'll just dismiss you as that guy she talks money with," Hanyi said authoritatively, crossing her arms.

"I… will take that under advisement," Bao Qian said. Receiving romantic advice from a spirit of winter and desire was not in the itinerary for today. "If we might turn things back to your performances?"

He supposed that there might be something in it though. His spirit beast would soon be returning from her scouting. Perhaps, when the baroness returned, he could invite her again. This time to a site guaranteed to have something of interest.

AN:With the holidays over commissions are back
 
Lol, Hanyi throwing shade on LQ and the questers.

But for real tho, Bao Qian can't be aggressive bc LQ's brothel hangups will flare up, and otherwise, we'll just chase those we already have high social bonds with. So how does BQ pursue us? By being nonaggressive yet persistent. LQ is wrapped up in desire, right? So maybe the key to her heart is that BQ likes spending time with her for reasons that aren't just Bao-greed-stereotype or male-lust-stereotype. Or something like that.
 
Man we really need to take some time to teach Hanyi etiquette. Too bad Gu Xiulan is away, I think Hanyi would appreciate learning her style of combative politeness.
 
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