deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
I maintain that we're not getting an art from this but instead cute animal features.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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I maintain that we're not getting an art from this but instead cute animal features.
Also, re: massacre potential, note this:
My guess is that we're being press ganged into a scouting role. Ling Qi can't realistically shorten the actual fight time between cultivators at this level. However, with the King stomping around at Defcon one and most of the forest spirits on fire with vengeance, Ling Qi offers some small value as a more subtle tool to scout ahead.
The best route to save a bunch of mortals is probably not to say "hey, let's spare some folks" but rather to say "hey, all the assholes you want to kill are this way, let's go" while leading away from the innocent villagers.
My guess is that we're being press ganged into a scouting role. Ling Qi can't realistically shorten the actual fight time between cultivators at this level. However, with the King stomping around at Defcon one and most of the forest spirits on fire with vengeance, Ling Qi offers some small value as a more subtle tool to scout ahead.
The best route to save a bunch of mortals is probably not to say "hey, let's spare some folks" but rather to say "hey, all the assholes you want to kill are this way, let's go" while leading away from the innocent villagers.
- Location
- Earth
[X] Accept the blessing of Fang
I'm pretty sure the blessing descriptions are metaphorical, so I don't think we need to worry that it's talking about a physical-based attack art.
I'm pretty sure the blessing descriptions are metaphorical, so I don't think we need to worry that it's talking about a physical-based attack art.
- Location
- earth
Ah, right, I get your point then.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] Accept the blessing of Hide
- Location
- United States of America
I will note that if Sixiang thought that the cave dive with Li Suyin could possibly serve as inspiration for a song or poem, partaking in the Wyld Hunt lead by a White who ruled the Weilu over 12 millennia ago will be some powerful inspiration for a song.
Black Noise
Curious
- Location
- About 1AU from Sol
Wait there's still people planning on picking up more of AE? It's got major role-fit problems: tries to do FVM+FSS but worse at both roles than either, minions are ~meh as a result, uses projection so we'll need to master at Green 3 and then also modify it and hope it doesn't weaken it.
Overall a waste of AP given our current options and archive access. (plus we need those Lung meridians for more immediately useful arts)
I am pretty sure it is termed as 'shortening' because Ling Qi has already contributed by helping Vengeance-of-a-Burning-Grove, and thus probably made sure he would meet the King and pass his message.
If Ling Qi could have helped reduce mortal casualties it was by letting the King directly know where his brother was hiding. The only other realistic option to help mortals that I can see happening is to ask the King to spare Shen Hu and hope he will evacuate enough of them before the King rolls around.
I don't believe that asking the King to spare both mortals and Shen Hu has any chance to succeed.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Ask for something else, despite the risk
-[x] Ask that Shen Hu and any mortals be spared the hunt
-[x] Ask that Shen Hu and any mortals be spared the hunt
One is murdering humans in mass, the other is not. It's incredible to see "both sides are in the wrong" when one side explicitely said that they are murdering the mortals.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yeah, specifically avoidance/evasion of Ling Qi's actual like "body"(whatever that ends up meaning) based on the context of that little talk. Which honestly makes sense given all the legs up in it's craw.
I mean the rebel Weilu side seems to have been murdering spirits and burning down forests out of spite also.
But we did have the question if spirit lives matter earlier in the thread. So eh.
Indeed, this should be emphasised. They are explicitly killing mortals.
- Location
- At the end of the world
[X] Accept the blessing of Fang
DeusExBritannia
Red-White-Black-White
- Location
- Texas
[X] Accept the blessing of Fang
Watch this have Water in it too.
Watch this have Water in it too.
- Location
- earth
Oh-ho. I'd be most interested in seeing what that kind of tale might result in.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I don't think he actually can evacuate them. They're mortals who are a part of the dream, so I don't figure they can leave the bounds without dissolving into disassociated qi.
- Location
- into cup
Idk, man, I really don't see Ling being put in the driver's seat here. Given how the king is casually telling her to do her best not to go mad from the coming revelation, I think the conga line of murder is going exactly where the king wants it to, with Ling clinging on for dear life. His offhand remark about cutting the night short doesn't convince me otherwise; it's entirely possible he's talking about the dream itself being shortened because of Ling's decision to beeline straight for him. (The king's cognisant of the fact that he's participating in a re-enactment; notice his comments about interesting customs and the waking world.)
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
I mean, in the context of this specific Wild Hunt on this particular night I wouldn't put that high on the priority list. King here is out to kill his brother in his secret stone base. So whilst I think mortals could easily be collateral of the hunt (If abs doesn't manage to get them clear of it), I don't think they're an objective of it.
Which is partly why I don't think trying to negotiate to spare the mortals is a good choice. The best outcome that could reasonably be expected is the King promising to ignore them, and that's a gigantic risk to take with the mood he's in when I'm moderately sure he'd ignore them anyway. The mortals straight up aren't a factor in his revenge, they're just scenery.
I mean, the dream seems fairly large, and really any evacuation just needs to make sure they aren't in the direct path of the Hunt.
See now the real question is, "if we die in the dream, do we die in real life?".
If yes, we should definitely ask for sparing Shen Hu rather than getting some other buff.
I am concerned about this passage specifically
This isn't an honour, we're being press-ganged into his hunt and if we don't perform up to the standard we set earlier he probably won't stand for it. Given the reminder in this very update that we're (probably) stronger than Shen Hu, I don't want to get into a situation where we have to show that for real right now(even if it doesn't end up being permanent harm), because there will definitely be no turning back from this point.
Quite frankly, the existence of asking for Shen Hu to be spared as a default/non write-in option points to it being a possibility. Even if we don't end up fighting him ourselves, there is no way we'd get to protect him without repercussions after this point.
I expected summary death from this route, but I also didn't expect this guy to be so sadistic rather than being an uncaring murder force for anything below X power level. Just a reminder that there are worse things than summary death.
Whatever wins, I hope we come out of this okay. A boon would be nice too.
[X] Ask for something else, despite the risk
-[X] Ask that Shen Hu be spared the hunt
As for the mortals... well they're already dead. No need to stick our neck further out for the mere shades. (to clarify, these guys are looooooong dead outside the dream unless some of them ended up being super cultivators. The only value in trying to protect them right now is satisfaction)
If yes, we should definitely ask for sparing Shen Hu rather than getting some other buff.
I am concerned about this passage specifically
Like straight up, he harmed us here which shows he doesn't really value us (which is reasonable for a number of reasons, the least of which not being that this is a dream of past events and he knows it). He also gained knowledge of what transpired earlier from Vengeance but didn't mention Shen Hu at all despite the fact that he also contributed to the favorable outcome.
This isn't an honour, we're being press-ganged into his hunt and if we don't perform up to the standard we set earlier he probably won't stand for it. Given the reminder in this very update that we're (probably) stronger than Shen Hu, I don't want to get into a situation where we have to show that for real right now(even if it doesn't end up being permanent harm), because there will definitely be no turning back from this point.
Quite frankly, the existence of asking for Shen Hu to be spared as a default/non write-in option points to it being a possibility. Even if we don't end up fighting him ourselves, there is no way we'd get to protect him without repercussions after this point.
I expected summary death from this route, but I also didn't expect this guy to be so sadistic rather than being an uncaring murder force for anything below X power level. Just a reminder that there are worse things than summary death.
Whatever wins, I hope we come out of this okay. A boon would be nice too.
[X] Ask for something else, despite the risk
-[X] Ask that Shen Hu be spared the hunt
As for the mortals... well they're already dead. No need to stick our neck further out for the mere shades. (to clarify, these guys are looooooong dead outside the dream unless some of them ended up being super cultivators. The only value in trying to protect them right now is satisfaction)
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Yeah, but did they start that shit before or after the King & Co. went genocidal? One is begging for an asskicking, while the other is a perfectly acceptable reaction.