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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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memoryofglory said:
but we don't really need to.
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No, uh...

If this guy returns to their undercities or whatever they can recycle him for another equivalent or to fuel a more powerful Shishigui given how their cultivation works

Plus given the resource crunch they're facing, offing the G7 in addition to the rest of his party constitutes a heavy investment of resources that the Shishigui will otherwise never get back

Setting aside that this is the only Shishigui of his type we've seen thus far. He appears to be unique

We absolutely need to kill him.
 
[X] Thousand Year Impenetrable Mist: B

I want this as a "future" KO Save for future Ling Clan members. Jiao's ability to facilitate the training of all Outer Sect members was cool af. I want some of that for the Ling Clan. Only thing missing now is the Scenario Shift, which can hopefully be done with Dream stuff, or facilitated by Formations.

I know its not really relevant to anything, but the Dream of Matriarch Ling Qi with Misty/Dream Training Sequence is too tempting to pass up.
 
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[x] Enlightenment's Unbreaking Mirror: B
Duration: Immediate
In the mist, even truth is blinding. Reduces the damage of spiritual arts within the mist by one rank, applied after other techniques and the user's armor. Enemies attacking the user during activation have their senses seared, reducing all Perception and Hit and Dodge by one rank for a short time.

Reduces damage incoming and applies debuff on the enemy, to not only avoid its next attack (-per / -hit) but also try to kill him easier (-dodge).

[] Thousand Year Impenetrable Mist: B
Duration: Short
It is said that in some distant vales, the mist never clears, and the earth has never known the unfiltered light of the sun. Grant all allies within Mist C rank damage reduction against spiritual damage. In addition, affected allies may receive one attack which would remove them from battle and instead be reduced to minimum health

Allows you to survive one overwhelming hit, which is nice but does fuck all afterward. Surviving with "1hp" is nice in games but realistically you're still fucking crippled and useless, and the enemy can still fart in your general direction to kill you anyway. Surviving the big hit to get killed by any follow-up attack would be pathetic.
The only time this really saves you is if the enemy uses a Kamikaze attack.

Only the first option actually gives us an option at winning the fight. Mist is the option that would allow our enemy to run away (hopefully without the Starstone).
As for hypothetical casualties... the only one at risk was Hanyi, but she pulled back into our dandian anyway...
 
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sergit said:
Though, to be honest, odds are, neither side will be anihilated,
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The 12 Star contingent present is facing almost 20 third realms while Guan Zhi duels their Cyan representative after almost being wiped out in the opening moments of the fight

If the G7 Shishigui is annihilated, Bardbarian wont be able to escape either. Hell, chances are that second Dancer keeled over from Hoarfrost Refrain already.

Annihilation is still absolutely on the table
 
Ayashi said:
Allows you to survive one overwhelming hit, which is nice but does fuck all afterward. Surviving with "1hp" is nice in games but realistically you're still fucking crippled and useless, and the enemy can still fart in your general direction to kill you anyway. Surviving the big hit to get killed by any follow-up attack would be pathetic.
The only time this really saves you is if the enemy uses a Kamikaze attack.

Only the first option actually gives us an option at winning the fight. As for hypothetical casualties... the only one at risk was Hanyi, but she pulled back into our dandian anyway...
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Bit disingenuous here - TYIM also provides a C-rank Damage Reduction for a Short duration which is the highest seen yet.
 
With this talk about them escaping if Ling Qi doesn't act, isn't there still another team lead by peak Green Liao Zhu waiting in the wings to deal with that?
 
Sieje said:
With this talk about them escaping if Ling Qi doesn't act, isn't there still another team lead by peak Green Liao Zhu waiting in the wings to deal with that?
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They've become entangled with Cloud Barbarian reinforcements. It's why they aren't moving in to help us out. Their ability to spot and stop fleeing barbarians is likely minimized at the moment.
 
While we're at it, since some people have argued that TYIM will leave our fellow disciples at 1 HP:

Is it guaranteed that the Shisigui's attack will proc the Panic-Button "which would remove them from battle" rather than simply be reduced with all the stacking defenses plus C-rank Damage Reduction?

Why is the default position to immediately assume the worst scenario?
Best-case scenario: TYIM leaves everyone wounded but still capable to fight/chase down enemies, whereas EUM means we debuff the enemy but potentially take casualties which weakens our battle potential.
 
Sieje said:
With this talk about them escaping if Ling Qi doesn't act, isn't there still another team lead by peak Green Liao Zhu waiting in the wings to deal with that?
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Liao Zhu and company are tied up handling the incoming reinforcements from the cloud tribes.

The fact is that the Shishigui looks to be running right now and is casting unholy hand grenade to do it. After what ever sacrifice tech he uses activities we are unlikely to be in position to chase him down. Plus unlike cloud tribes it is likely he can run by diving back underground. So the wandering kill teams circling the the zone are unlikely to be able to track him if he goes under them.
 
Resonant said:
While we're at it, since some people have argued that TYIM will leave our fellow disciples at 1 HP:

Is it guaranteed that the Shisigui's attack will proc the Panic-Button "which would remove them from battle" rather than simply be reduced with all the stacking defenses plus C-rank Damage Reduction?

Why is the default position to immediately assume the worst scenario?
Best-case scenario: TYIM leaves everyone wounded but still capable to fight/chase down enemies, whereas EUM means we debuff the enemy but potentially take casualties which weakens our battle potential.
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Nothing is truly guaranteed, but it seems likely that the abilities given by the choice will be used. Will everyone be at the edge of death? Probably not. Ruan Shen and Cai seem to be in fairly favorable health and qi levels at the moment. Ling Qi and Zhengui will... be running on fumes though. Zhengui's going to be fine given his health regen and ability to tank damage, and Ling Qi will probably be fine after a couple of moments having Zhengui healing her, but she's probably going to be in rough shape. And that's probably true with either option.

As for the best-case scenario... the best case for EUM is that the tech reduces the damage enough that nobody on our side dies while also debuffing the opponent enough for us to catch him and eliminate him as a threat. I can't imagine a best-case scenario for one of these techs resulting in people dying.
 
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So, quick question. Mirror says it reduces damage by one rank, applied after techniques and the user's armor. Does that mean that the reduction applies only to Ling Qi?
 
[X] Thousand Year Impenetrable Mist: B

I think this is more immediately helpful, I think it fits better with her themes, and I think it also has some serious potential for future development. Right now, for massive single-shot burst, Ling Qi just has Call To Ending, which requires an effect that the enemy could purge from themselves first. I'd expect anyone capable of Damage Reduction to have that sort of cleanse effect. Between Zhengui's Rebirth Inferno and her own "Branches and trunks bend and sway, but the roots must remain unyielding. Retreat only so far and then no more." insight, I'd expect that she can develop an Enmity effect technique--you know, the kind with a "this attack does more damage at low HP" tag.

Which is massively powerful for a defensive cultivator! That should be one of our priority picks it if shows up as an effect, and having the TYIM safety net makes that sort of attack reliable and versatile against spiritual attackers. (Even assuming TYIM never develops a defense against punching.) And that's just treating TYIM as a duelist technique and ignoring its ally support abilities!
 
Interesting! The spontaneous development of a tech would seem like bs, but it was foreshadowed (maybe obliquely to a rr reader) in the form of zhengui and his paradise rampart.

To my eye, both look fine.

Weaponized truth: cool, cool, cool. The mist parts, they stab at the enemy - only to be stabbing at some truth that they have kept hidden, even from themselves, and reel from the knowledge, their senses hindered.

It's a very Old Master kind of technique. :V

Impenetrable Mist : Today, nobody dies. Pretty simple in execution, but damn if it isn't badass.

A very protagonist-y technique, or Big Guy technique.

Both are cool.
 
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