Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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ImperatorV
The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
Valid points. I think I'll dual vote then.
[X] Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.
[X] I am the Student of [Winter's Muse][Songstress of Endings], Feel free to join the performance how you see fit
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
She doesn't know, she might assume but telling her about Zeqing is an actual piece of important information and clarifies how exactly Ling Qi can do her own ice things, which she doesn't really have much reason to know.
[X] I am the Student of [Winter's Muse][Songstress of Endings], Feel free to join the performance how you see fit
- Location
- Florida
If we got her full support I'd imagine there'd be a giant ice palace able to tank a hit from a stray cyan technique surrounding the stone and her husband as a medic for our cavalry us and our spirits, I'm not sure how much of that we'd get with the other vote.
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- Location
- Florida
I just remembered, Zeqing warned us about learning FSS before reaching full green else it would be more ingrained in us and our Way.
With this response to Ice Lady she might think just that about us and when she learns more may even want to teach us about herself, where she came from, and perhaps if we're super lucky more arts we can learn from her!
I also now suspect all Ice Ladies have spreadsheets in their heads, she knows we have them ourselves, it may not be bond by family or blood but it's far greater than either... ITS THE MINMAXERS BOND THAT TRANSCENDS BEYOND!!!
With this response to Ice Lady she might think just that about us and when she learns more may even want to teach us about herself, where she came from, and perhaps if we're super lucky more arts we can learn from her!
I also now suspect all Ice Ladies have spreadsheets in their heads, she knows we have them ourselves, it may not be bond by family or blood but it's far greater than either... ITS THE MINMAXERS BOND THAT TRANSCENDS BEYOND!!!
Artanis Prime
Knight of the Fallen Dream
- Location
- Matrix of Leadership
[X] Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.
- Location
- Staring into the void
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- Location
- The Space Between
[X] I am the Student of [Winter's Muse][Songstress of Endings], Feel free to join the performance how you see fit
first of all, shifting vote to this because Hell Yeah this is excellent. If lineage is important, Zeqing and Hanyi are of a lineage that was potentially lost to White Sky, or only exists through branches, as the glacier slowly retreated. That's awesome <3
are you asking for combat build or social build? or generally both?
Ultimately the only thing that's consistent with our build is that we're a cultivator with a flexible Yin nature. We have decided to have certain limits to this flexibility, where we decide to dig in and cede no more. Most of our build on both sides will end up being quite flexible as a result, with a few extremely firm roots we will not cede.
You can read our Domain Insights to see what we're building narratively.
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Socially, we are building on Sincerity. Being more mindful of the "echoes that ring out of earshot". And counteracting the lies we tell ourselves, which may extend to the lies that others tell about themselves (to themselves) later on.
It's a Resolve build that will make use of our Earnest and Sincere Expressions to interact/communicate with others. We are quite good at communicating with Spirits.
We haven't decided on all of our Social Build. CRX was hoping for a Spymaster with extremely strong loyalty. She revised her hope to "diplomat" when she saw how . . . not competent we were at opening our mouth. Our Social Defenses were adequate but . . . we had no way to influence talks. Just listen.
I'm personally hoping for Diplo/Master Spy in which we take the risk of our cultivated contacts on personally instead of endlessly burning connections for profit/gain. Spycraft is not a good grounding for Good Civ. You get the wrong people in those positions and they poison the whole well with their corruption. Spycraft is an effective tool, and should be handled competently by those with not much love for intrigue or plots, but great joy in outsmarting/outmaneuvering their opponents. A Yin-Reactive counter-espionage ring would do well for CRX I think. And we would be well suited for it, especially as a Diplomat that forges Sincere bonds and Expresses clearly.
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Combat-wise we're a Spiritual Cultivator that focuses on Area Control in a battle. Our Ducal friends and allies all have builds that allow them to be Well Rounded with Specializations in which they blow out all non-Ducal/Marquis ranks at. Due to many fortunate circumstances, we have been able to also create a very Well Rounded build as well.
Outside of battle we have a lot of Utility focused on Stealth, Spiritual Diplomacy and Speed. Being excellent at those three, and having reasonable Perception, we're quite a good Scout.
On top of that, we have 3 Green Spirits. Which is more than any Ducal we've seen.
It's interesting as a build because we could function well in almost any role, such as the deep-vanguard Scout/Spotter (as we did in this fight). When we deploy, we bring 4 Green combatants with us (our Dress is a spirit and will eventually mean we're 5 combatants "by ourself") and as a Control specialist we can really lock-down areas that need immediate assistance. Being competent at the other roles, or having spirits that can assist at the other roles, means that we're also able to assist areas that need something more nuanced than any-old Control specialist.
Our big weakness right now is the emergence of "Disruptor" builds at our tier. Builds that seem to try and cut External Domain cultivators off from their expressions (buff chains or field effects, constructs, anything persistent) in order to open up an opportunity for traditional Duelist or Blaster builds to pound the Control-cultivator into submission. An example would be that Lightning Cage that tried to sever our links to our field effects just now. That's spooky.
We're not Ducal tier because we don't have the same resources, comprehensive Art quality, or intentional build synergy.
as a scrappy commoner, we're going to be at an Art quality disadvantage until we can start creating our own Arts, which will hopefully synergize as we build them.
first of all, shifting vote to this because Hell Yeah this is excellent. If lineage is important, Zeqing and Hanyi are of a lineage that was potentially lost to White Sky, or only exists through branches, as the glacier slowly retreated. That's awesome <3
are you asking for combat build or social build? or generally both?
Ultimately the only thing that's consistent with our build is that we're a cultivator with a flexible Yin nature. We have decided to have certain limits to this flexibility, where we decide to dig in and cede no more. Most of our build on both sides will end up being quite flexible as a result, with a few extremely firm roots we will not cede.
You can read our Domain Insights to see what we're building narratively.
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Socially, we are building on Sincerity. Being more mindful of the "echoes that ring out of earshot". And counteracting the lies we tell ourselves, which may extend to the lies that others tell about themselves (to themselves) later on.
It's a Resolve build that will make use of our Earnest and Sincere Expressions to interact/communicate with others. We are quite good at communicating with Spirits.
We haven't decided on all of our Social Build. CRX was hoping for a Spymaster with extremely strong loyalty. She revised her hope to "diplomat" when she saw how . . . not competent we were at opening our mouth. Our Social Defenses were adequate but . . . we had no way to influence talks. Just listen.
I'm personally hoping for Diplo/Master Spy in which we take the risk of our cultivated contacts on personally instead of endlessly burning connections for profit/gain. Spycraft is not a good grounding for Good Civ. You get the wrong people in those positions and they poison the whole well with their corruption. Spycraft is an effective tool, and should be handled competently by those with not much love for intrigue or plots, but great joy in outsmarting/outmaneuvering their opponents. A Yin-Reactive counter-espionage ring would do well for CRX I think. And we would be well suited for it, especially as a Diplomat that forges Sincere bonds and Expresses clearly.
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Combat-wise we're a Spiritual Cultivator that focuses on Area Control in a battle. Our Ducal friends and allies all have builds that allow them to be Well Rounded with Specializations in which they blow out all non-Ducal/Marquis ranks at. Due to many fortunate circumstances, we have been able to also create a very Well Rounded build as well.
Outside of battle we have a lot of Utility focused on Stealth, Spiritual Diplomacy and Speed. Being excellent at those three, and having reasonable Perception, we're quite a good Scout.
On top of that, we have 3 Green Spirits. Which is more than any Ducal we've seen.
It's interesting as a build because we could function well in almost any role, such as the deep-vanguard Scout/Spotter (as we did in this fight). When we deploy, we bring 4 Green combatants with us (our Dress is a spirit and will eventually mean we're 5 combatants "by ourself") and as a Control specialist we can really lock-down areas that need immediate assistance. Being competent at the other roles, or having spirits that can assist at the other roles, means that we're also able to assist areas that need something more nuanced than any-old Control specialist.
Our big weakness right now is the emergence of "Disruptor" builds at our tier. Builds that seem to try and cut External Domain cultivators off from their expressions (buff chains or field effects, constructs, anything persistent) in order to open up an opportunity for traditional Duelist or Blaster builds to pound the Control-cultivator into submission. An example would be that Lightning Cage that tried to sever our links to our field effects just now. That's spooky.
We're not Ducal tier because we don't have the same resources, comprehensive Art quality, or intentional build synergy.
as a scrappy commoner, we're going to be at an Art quality disadvantage until we can start creating our own Arts, which will hopefully synergize as we build them.
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Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
That write-in really seems like a passing the hot potato write-in.
Watsonian, It doesn't actually go and have Ling Qi make any choices in what she wants or is trying for, and is instead just guessing about the lineage part of the sentence and ignoring the actual question.
The Doylist interpretation of the vote just seems to me to be born out of a belief Yrs is trying to trap us, and as such we are leaving it up to Yrs to decide what Ling Qi actually says or how the Ice Lady interpret the question. It's a way to neither threatening her off nor asking for help and instead rely on the QM to choose the option he prefers.
It's just... cheap.
Watsonian, It doesn't actually go and have Ling Qi make any choices in what she wants or is trying for, and is instead just guessing about the lineage part of the sentence and ignoring the actual question.
The Doylist interpretation of the vote just seems to me to be born out of a belief Yrs is trying to trap us, and as such we are leaving it up to Yrs to decide what Ling Qi actually says or how the Ice Lady interpret the question. It's a way to neither threatening her off nor asking for help and instead rely on the QM to choose the option he prefers.
It's just... cheap.
Defusing a bomb in a live battlefield sucks. If the QM didn't want us to feel pressed he wouldn't have thrown one right at us.
If you want to criticize the write in, do so because of how bad it is at actually defusing the situation, since blind guessing at the very-important-for-the-ice-woman Lineage question could obviously lead to problems. And not even only immediate problems, but long standing ones with the language barrier in the middle making clarification complicated.
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I've actually got a concern here. And the concern is best stated by a professional:
If lineage is important, and the ice lady appears to be approaching us under the assumption of some shared lineage, the last thing it's responsible to do is to spell out exactly how not related we are to Zeqing.
It's a gamble for basically no payoff. Fine, even necessary, for a longer conversation, but that's not a luxury we have at the moment.
That's what Arkeus did? He criticized it for not really actually making a decision, not "defusing the bomb". Leaving the question of how vague and up to hopefully benign QM interpretation.
I am actually stunned on the vote that is winning. I doubt she knows who Zeqing is, and we don't have the time to explain.
The other half of the vote is telling a neutral party that they should pick a side and act or bugger off. Even if miraculously the chance she joins us is 50% it's a terrible action.
I would also like to bite on this plot hook in some way but the only way we could avoid it more is if we took the option to simply leave.
The other half of the vote is telling a neutral party that they should pick a side and act or bugger off. Even if miraculously the chance she joins us is 50% it's a terrible action.
I would also like to bite on this plot hook in some way but the only way we could avoid it more is if we took the option to simply leave.