She'll see beyond her mothers stifling designs and grow beyond them.
Like a butterfly leaving it's cocoon.
CRX Nudist cultivator.
*Kill la Kill intensifies*
She'll see beyond her mothers stifling designs and grow beyond them.
Like a butterfly leaving it's cocoon.
CRX Nudist cultivator.
It being additive is right, but the Yin/Yang thing is personality based and that is really much more due to upbringing and cultural expectations.threads, I understand that the Yin/Yang bonus to female and male cultivators is real, it's just additive instead of multiplicative, i.e. not remotely definitive. So you can 100% cultivate either and based on your individual personality either can match you better, but when you take 100 boys and 100 girls from the same family with a distribution of personality all over the spectrum cultivating the same one, you'll see power skewed to some degree towards the 'matching' gender.
Huh... Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but a big part of the issue with current Gu clan is that Xiulan's dad is trying really hard for a son as men have a statistical advantage for yang arts, the same way Bai women tend to be stronger because they have an statistical advantage for Yin art.It being additive is right, but the Yin/Yang thing is personality based and that is really much more due to upbringing and cultural expectations.
Yin absorbs, attracts, and reacts to things happening to it. Yin is real and grounded.
Yang generates, repels, and does things to others. Yang is spiritual and imaginative.
Other than the physical sexual element where the phenomenon is literal, the only gender association is that they are considered sensible behaviors for the associated gender.
And of course, either one of them on its own is kind of useless. One is a rock and another is a daydream.
It being additive is right, but the Yin/Yang thing is personality based and that is really much more due to upbringing and cultural expectations.
Yin absorbs, attracts, and reacts to things happening to it. Yin is real and grounded.
Yang generates, repels, and does things to others. Yang is spiritual and imaginative.
Other than the physical sexual element where the phenomenon is literal, the only gender association is that they are considered sensible behaviors for the associated gender.
And of course, either one of them on its own is kind of useless. One is a rock and another is a daydream.
Huh... Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but a big part of the issue with current Gu clan is that Xiulan's dad is trying really hard for a son as men have a statistical advantage for yang arts, the same way Bai women tend to be stronger because they have an statistical advantage for Yin art.
It's not set in stone obviously (Xiulan is yang as fuck in many ways), but it's not just due to cultural expectation in this story, there is a real "Women tend to lean toward Yin, men tend to lean toward Yang" in affinities.
It's an interesting theory but there seems to be so little evidence to support it. For one Yin and Yang currently is a way for the imperial system to help two very board types of arts, and thus personalities. This raises the question for me if Yin and Yang affinity can even be 'inborn' that would imply that such a thing would apply towards the entire human species. Do the cloud barbarians also use Yin and Yang to help divide their arts? Do the Not!Indians past the Red Garden? Or the Not!Pillermen?What Arkeus said. I also suspect the 'inborn' 'personality-agnostic' yin/yang affinity is tied to psychological gender, not physiological sex, I.E. trans people - like CRX's core disciple ex-nanny who made dress-chan - have the affinity matching what they end up as, not what they are identified as at birth.
Non-binary people would presumably have their inborn affinity neutral between the two, which coincidentally matches Sixiang well - their Yin/Yang tendencies seem pretty balanced.
I mean, the singular cultivation system that the Empire uses interacts with a person's psychological gender (presumably inborn, but I honestly understand fuckall about gender and it doens't need to be for this) in a way that makes this person better/worse at cultivating particular arts this specific system offers, as also heavily influenced by personality.It's an interesting theory but there seems to be so little evidence to support it. For one Yin and Yang currently is a way for the imperial system to help two very board types of arts, and thus personalities. This raises the question for me if Yin and Yang affinity can even be 'inborn' that would imply that such a thing would apply towards the entir human species. Do the cloud barbarians also use Yin and Yang to help divide their arts? Do the Not!Indians past the Red Garden? Or the Not!Pillermen?
Since there are multiple cultivation systems calling a method that one system uses to talk about itself as 'inborn' to a person is a going to be a tough sell to me. Perhaps the empire had a great spirit ascend which made that true, but we have had no indication that such a spirit exists.
Yrsillar05/13/2020
Sexism isn't really very strong in the empire, and tends to take different forms than in rl
Mr.Mouse- always correct05/13/2020
Power does
Yrsillar05/13/2020
Or rather, there is sexism in that you'll be damaged socially for not performing your gender, but what performing your gender means is different than rl
heretical naths05/13/2020
like, the Bai traditionalists valued women in leadership positions. and didnt CRX explain that imperials usually valued men for leadership positions?
Yrsillar05/13/2020
Yes
and the Bai political scene is only getting tetchy about a man in charge because there's been two in a row
Mr.Mouse- always correct05/13/2020
MEN. Disgust
Yrsillar05/13/2020
so if Xiang's successor is also a woman, people will probably start getting a bit pissy
Mr.Mouse- always correct05/13/2020
They have snakes in their trousers
JowKeen, Conspiracy Cactus05/13/2020
weak soft scale-less snakes that don't even have fangs. Basically the shittest snakes
The 8 eyes demon05/13/2020
Tbf the last 2 bai clan heads had to deal with a somewhat tumultuous period
Mr.Mouse- always correct05/13/2020
Imperial prob values men in leadership becuase you know...they had the emperor
Yun05/13/2020
That presumes the issue with a third male clan had has to do with actual belief in the tradition, and simply not making an opportunity to gain political advantages, or whatever else the Bai intrigue battles get up to.
heretical naths05/13/2020
clearly a sign that men are less suited to leadership! a strong woman would never have fucked up as much. (perfect Bai logic)
Yrsillar05/13/2020
It's not the only factor, but it is an actual factor
Yrsillar05/13/2020
It is generally accepted that men are more suited to Yang arts, how this plays out in actual practice is more debateable
Yrsillar05/13/2020
> Might be self reinforcing; I'd expect yin/yang affinity to depend a lot on temperament which is influenced by culture
@Black Noise ding ding ding
Black Noise05/13/2020
And if culture has gender norms, you get a bias
By the way, I believe no one has mentioned yet that Dream Qi is a thing as well. FYIThanks and no worries! I guess it makes sense to want to keep it as open as possible, since there must be an infinite number of Ways open to cultivators
Thanks you!
Thank you for taking the time to write this very informative answer! I'm just really curious about the spiritual side of the story, and the nature of Qi would help me figure out the answers to a lot of questions I think.
For exemple, the fact that humans can affect the nature of a great spirit kind of implies that they were born from the collective psyche of "sentient beings" in the first place, instead of being natural phenomena, right?
But those same great spirits have types of Qi tied to them (though I am not sure if that's true for all of them) and now it kinda seems like a "chicken/egg" situation, with one answer implying that whatever the source of Qi is, it's reactive to sentient beings beliefs/aspirations/emotions.
And since Advanced Qi seems to be a combination of relatively simpler types (Like Death, Entropy, and Endings for Cold) how crazy do you think it would be to assume that there might be an "absolute" type combining them all at the very end of the spectrum?
... As I'm sure you can guess, I really like the story's worldbuilding.
Huh... Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but a big part of the issue with current Gu clan is that Xiulan's dad is trying really hard for a son as men have a statistical advantage for yang arts, the same way Bai women tend to be stronger because they have an statistical advantage for Yin art.
It's not set in stone obviously (Xiulan is yang as fuck in many ways), but it's not just due to cultural expectation in this story, there is a real "Women tend to lean toward Yin, men tend to lean toward Yang" in affinities.
To add on/sum up what Black Noise said aboveWhat Arkeus said. I also suspect the 'inborn' 'personality-agnostic' yin/yang affinity is tied to psychological gender, not physiological sex, I.E. trans people - like CRX's core disciple ex-nanny who made dress-chan - have the affinity matching what they end up as, not what they are identified as at birth.
Non-binary people would presumably have their inborn affinity neutral between the two, which coincidentally matches Sixiang well - their Yin/Yang tendencies seem pretty balanced.
May I sig this? It's awesome.Self is not a story, it is an "emergent property of material foundations, with experiential feed-back loops", and those feedback loops are the stories.
the only problem with me is that Gu Jun opens his mouth alot i mean you use that expression a lot of time.
Eh... The human founder of the Bai clan was male, but he apparently only had daughters.How many ducal clans where founded by female cultivators and have female leadership tradition like the bai and *Stone monkey clan* i forgot the name
How many ducal clans where founded by female cultivators and have female leadership tradition like the bai and *Stone monkey clan* i forgot the name