Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Theres some new Bofuri spoilers below, but its basically more Zhengui references :p
Syrup is Zhengui in disguise!
As for elements...I kind of don't think FIRE is the problem in its own right, but rather the specific nature of the Purifying Sun reacting poorly when used to harshly bleach and scrub poison out of Ling Qi when she's herself made significantly out of darkness and mystery.

When you cast revealing sunlight on the phantoms of the mist they become just coils of vapor given form by your own doubt and fears.
Fire on its own has the core natures of consumption and clinging, both of which are thematically pretty similar to Ling Qi's Cold arts of all things.
 
Okay Two hour warning. Also a new bonus is up on RR if you would like to read.

Mid Year Conference
Interesting.

It seems like Jiao may have made the mistake of binding his way and desire to change the world up too closely with obeying the will of the Monarch as having better judgement. So when the Empress came to the throne and started making calls that Jiao and the previous emperor would have disagreed with it caused a deviation between the part of his way that was for Justice/World improvement and the part that obeyed the imperial will.

Thus leading to his stall.

Also, it appears that Shenhua has actually been interfering for multiple years as Renshu going off the rails is mentioned as something they would usually have stopped. The alternative is that the family of whoever attacked him paid the sect a truly massive bribe.

It does confirm again that what we saw in our year was political interference and would be totally unsustainable if it was allowed to continue long term.

The argent sect is apparently even more vulnerable to political interference than others who are being neglected due to it's unusually high number of very powerful cultivators who all expect/need to be paid appropriately. It's harder to tighten their belts against the neglect in the way other sects might.
 
Confirmation that Jiao is seventh realm, and that him loosing his way is probably not a ruse to fool everyone. Also, the Argent Peak Sect is stupidly overpowered as far as sects go. Probably intentional on An's part, but undercut now by the Empress neglecting them.

We allready know the great sects are ridiculously overpowered compared to normal Sects.

The question is, is this the norm for the Great Sects, or is the Argent Sect overpowered compared to even them?

Also, at this point, I think the Empress is just dumb at politics and lets herself be manipulated by everyone while thinking she is manipulating everyone -_-.
 
We know the Emerald Seas sects were likely relatively overpowered due to shitty politics and weak governance. Prior to imperial investment people went into Sects to nerd full time and ignore things like civil wars and succession.
 
yrsillar answered about the other two Emerald Seas Great Sects on Discord:
Katreus Today at 2:58 PM
It would be beyond belief if the other two great sects have as many high cultivators

Yrsillar Today at 2:58 PM
they do not
the other sects don't have any seventh realms and single digit sixth realms
 
yrsillar answered about the other two Emerald Seas Great Sects on Discord:
It actually makes sense now why we have such a high concentration of OP students.

The Argent Sect is literally the most prestigious Sect in the Empire.

Wow, yes.

It seems like this is the best Sect of the provice, and highly likely of the empire... we really lucked out (well, not "we" as the thread, the Sect was always predetermined, "we" as Ling Qi)

And considering how well we are doing in this Sect, we are probably currently the strongest commonborn person of our age... probably the strongest baronial person of our age as well... heck, Viscount and Count clans do not seem to throw much competition as far as people of our age are concerned, but they may be keeping their geniuses close to heart, not everyone is Shenhua tier cavalier about Sects.
 
I doubt that. Ji Rong at least is a higher talent level than us so depending on what u mean by 'strongest' in terms of numbers we're not actually stronger than him.

We beat him. We are consistently ahead of him. We are outperforming him.

Talent isn't the only thing that matters. Sure, he may surpass us in the future, but right now, he is chasing our tail.
 
I doubt that. Ji Rong at least is a higher talent level than us so depending on what u mean by 'strongest' in terms of numbers we're not actually stronger than him.
To add to this, while yes, it is true that we have beaten him one-on-one before, that was once, and it was a pretty narrow victory. We would've been in loads of trouble had Zhengui and our worms not been there to help our combo
 
Raw cultivation combat strength is only one aspect of strength at our level. We out class him on soft power, and utility. While still being on par with raw cultivation.
 
To add to this, while yes, it is true that we have beaten him one-on-one before, that was once, and it was a pretty narrow victory. We would've been in loads of trouble had Zhengui and our worms not been there to help our combo

...We beat him while holding back for the next fight. It was only narrow cuz we decided not to go all out.

And in the empire one's spirits are parts of one's power, not a cheat.
 
...We beat him while holding back for the next fight. It was only narrow cuz we decided not to go all out.

And in the empire one's spirits are parts of one's power, not a cheat.
We weren't really holding back much from our fight with Ji Rong. We were mainly holding back the skeleton bird as well as the Qi card containing CRX's dispel art, which aren't really part of our main asset, more like trump cards prepared for certain opponents to adapt our strategy.

And yeah, we have three spirits and I'm not saying that they are cheats. I'm saying we shouldn't judge based on one fight alone with our peer since we ain't the only one improving themselves. What with Ji "perfect damage in every hit" Rong.
 
Uh...for Ji Rong fight...keep in mind we specialized for crowd control, Ji Rong specialized for duels. By a general metric, Ling Qi is stronger than Ji Rong, because in her weak area and his strong area, he lost.

That said, if we wound up in another duel, Ling Qi isn't sufficiently stronger than him as to reliably beat him in his specialty. But that assumes he's stayed in said specialty rather than diversifying now that his specialty isn't the end all.
 
The argent sect is apparently even more vulnerable to political interference than others who are being neglected due to it's unusually high number of very powerful cultivators who all expect/need to be paid appropriately. It's harder to tighten their belts against the neglect in the way other sects might.
Keep in mind that Austerity Measures are an intellectually bankrupt idea that are universally unsustainable and highly destructive. Tightening the belt is a way that you can manage individual finance but is crippling and self destructive when you attempt to run an economy/government that way. Mark Blyth is the best economist to walk through why the idea is both bankrupt and yet persistent if you're interested.

It is the wrong decision to tighten the belts around the institutions of governance and learning. It's a good thing that the Argent Sect cannot tighten their belts.
 
(Just finished binging and had a flippin great time)

Regarding trying to meshing Zhengui's thematics with our own, it's kinda hard.
He's slow & obvious & on fire we're fast & sneaky & cold.

Some ideas;
a) Zhengui absorbs what we draw off the environment, e.g. our mists draws the heat/sound/life/will from the environment into Zhengui to use
b) same as a) but ourself as target maybe we leave a storm of dead-leaves/ash behind
c) icy/ash/fire flowers spawn and then explode/disperse, the shards start growing new flowers on new surfaces absorbing heat to grow
e) we try a 4 seasons kinda thing deal autumn / winter for us and Zhengui spring / summer

I actually like c) the best, it's growth/destruction, works with music and can be plant and cold themed.

I do have the endstate of "frickin huge Zhengui" being a snow covered volcano with dense forests on his flanks shrouded in endless mist.
 
Qi, Shen, and Greater Cultivation Theory
Bond Sister,

It is good to hear that your time spent with those silkpants in the Peaks have not gone to waste entirely! While it has been good to return home after my travels, having spent so long away. I find many things to mislike. Having sailed the worlds seas, the empire seems small indeed, and its scholars minds smaller still. Enough whining though! You had a question in your letter, regarding your paper on Qi theory, and I do have some insights. I do not think your 'peers' are going to care much for them and nor will the simpering fops in court, if my impression is correct.

The trouble with the imperial schools of theory is the assumption of natural supremacy. They acknowledge the impact of ascension on natural law, but I think few enough have really internalized it. The laws of this world are mostly impermanent. The rules of nature which our most venerable ancestors lived under are not the same as those which we today labor beneath. To the layman, even one of great cultivation, this is not immediately obvious, but for one studied in history this becomes clear. The world is a mutable, and cultivation is no different. Conservative thinkers, those promoted by the court in the Celestial Peaks posit that foreign cultivation is merely a debased form, operating under the same principals but through lesser means.

This is patently untrue, though if one has never left their perfumed halls it may be compelling. Travel beyond the empire's borders and your own eyes will give you the lie. Travel west, beyond the bloodthirsty jungles, and you will find a land of a thousand princes, who claim descent from a single god with a thousand faces, of which the Red Jungle is merely one. They know nothing of meridians or dantians, and instead invest their understanding in seven chakras, spiritual organs with only the most passing similarity to the three dantians. Travel further still and the methods grow more alien. In the land of Kem across the northern sea are a people with five souls, of which the body is the highest and most supreme. I have had the honor of speaking with one of their sleeping Priest Kings, and it more closely resembled an audience with our Great Sire than any Immortal patriarch.

I will give Imperial scholars some face however, it is true that there are certain unifying rules to the operation of the world. It's just that they blind themselves to most of them in their arrogance. It is true that the energy we call qi is the fundamental building block of our world. In the first realm, we learn to feel and manipulate it, in the second, we learn to begin empowering our flesh and spirits with the energies of the world. In the third, we begin to wield it in truth, gaining a grasp for the manipulation of the world around us through the alteration of energy and material. I would quibble on some details, but the foundational theory is mostly correct.

No, where I find myself in disagreement is their theories on the middle dantian and shen energy. As I have heard it, the leading position is that Shen is an energy wholly derived from potent cultivators and spirit beasts, through which their will is imprinted upon the world, which is composed of lesser energy, qi. This is why those conflict between those of the fourth realm and above so easily alter or scar their surroundings, Shen is a semi divine energy, existing above the base mortal world, the first step toward wielding the power of the great spirits. This is why it allows us to escape the shackles of the world and fly, or alter the workings of the systems around is in ways beyond the brute force of the third realm.

This is wrong. Shen exists in the world around us, not merely as a side effect of potent spirits, but as another fundamental aspect of the material world. All forms of material and energy are qi, when broken down to their fundamental state, but my time under Guru Abhinavagupta, a man of great renown in the west, I have come to understand this. Men, beasts and spirits change the world by exerting their will, their shen upon it, this is true, but the world changes itself. We are not not as separate from material cycles as many would like to think. Shen is the energy of laws and reactions. When you strike flint to make fire, this is a miniscule application of shen. The patterns of winds which derive the weather is an application of shen. Not the winds and rains themselves of course, but the fundamental logic which drives them.

This is the source of it's potency and power when used in mortal hands. It overrides qi because qi operates as it does thanks to the laws and reactions imposed upon it by Shen. Now you may argue, is what I just described not the provenance of the third dantian? Sovereignty, Law, Truth; whatever you wish to call it?

I would answer that it is, and that imagining those things to be a third source of energy rather than a refinement of Shen is the greatest failing of Imperial Qi Theory. Of course, the truth is that it is really just a difference of power at that point. If it is said that a fourth realm wields Law as a mortal would a sharp rock, then it may be said that an Eight Realm wields it as a shaped cudgel. It is only ascension that allows true mastery. It is only our pride and insistence on supremacy which deludes us otherwise.

Having read this, you will now understand my earlier words. The insights I have to give are not one your peers will receive in good humor, and that is assuming you yourself do not think me a soft headed fool who has spent too much time at sea and among barbarians Bond Sister! Regardless, it has been good to hear from you again. I plan to remain in Shuilian City for some ten years. Once I have put my affairs in order, I intend to sail north again. I intend to travel beyond Kem and the isles of Pyrrhos and seek the legendary Emerald Isle, called the Conqueror's Graveyard by the men of the continent. I am sure you can see why I would be interested! But these old bones are not quite what they used to be. I am not certain I will return this time, Bond Sister, so I hope you will find time to visit.

Your Bond Brother, Zheng Lu, King of Explorers

AN: Just droppin another commission work up in here, main updoot will be tomorrow.
 
Nice to see confirmation of an Indian inspired civilization, although there were many hints that one existed. Assuming it wasn't a coincidence, I like the nod to Zheng He in Zheng Lu's name as well.
 
Travel west, beyond the bloodthirsty jungles, and you will find a land of a thousand princes, who claim descent from a single god with a thousand faces, of which the Red Jungle is merely one.
Faux-India, as the Empire is faux-China
In the land of Kem across the northern sea are a people with five souls, of which the body is the highest and most supreme.
Egypt
the isles of Pyrrhos
Greece, maybe?
the legendary Emerald Isle, called the Conqueror's Graveyard by the men of the continent
Ireland?
 
Hi! Caught up on this amazing story. Thank you very much for writing it!

Some very nice worldbuilding in this post. So nice to see the world isn't only China and barbarians. Though it does raise a question: what can stop a fitfh or higher realm cultivator from simply flying up very high to see the planet in its entirety? Or even traveling by making an orbit.

I also have an issue of grammatical nature. I apologise if it has already been asked and answered. Why do you constantly mix up "its" (possessive) and "it's" (short for "it is")? From this post, for example: "source of it's potency".

Regardless, I enjoy the story greatly and look forward to participating in the quest.
 
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