There are a lot more fun charms that we could make and for whom we already barely have time for.
The Path Unending (A Cultivation Quest)
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There are a lot more fun charms that we could make and for whom we already barely have time for.
For this to happen, Ves and Ct would have to be deliberately out to get us in the nastiest way possible. I don't think that's their style. Pretty much the worst we've ever gotten off of a bad write-in has been a bit of a dud/fizzle.
Just in general, we don't have to litigate every vote by thinking of nasty possible consequences and voting based around those. We can weigh the good consequences here.
Saying "No" reinforces Zhi's good reputation. That's valuable!
Saying "Yes" gets us a charm. I doubt Ves would dangle a useless charm in front of us (see above, they're not out to screw us) so it will be useful in training, as advertised. There may be some risk of appearance of impropriety, but we can ameliorate that. It's clear that Boli doesn't see it as a bribe, so there's no quid pro quo here.
Bringing in Zhuan Kun gives us a chance to establish a relationship with another high noble. The advantages are obvious, and so far there doesn't seem to be any hostility between Mo and Zhuan.
Good to know, though not quite what I meant to ask. More explicitly:
Does Zhi think the calibration would mean the charm is quickly outgrown? Do we have any idea how it would interact with FV? If we went out and picked up a brand new Technique next week, would the charm help us train with it?
i find it hard to believe someone sabatoged his charm when he willingly tested it himself and suffered injuries to see it perfected.
Unlike us, he's willing to test his charms and knows what's going to happen because he diagrams it and thus knows the in's and out of his own charm unlike us who sort of just... craft and it does things like FV
Like think, what if he's the true Bob The Builder he is meant to be? Mhm, one of the advantages of diagraming artists is that they know what their building and can adjust for imperfections and Boli has shown that through willing suffering to ensure his charm works.
mhm, I just find the likely hood it was sabotaged to be unlikely when he tested it so many times and it oofed him and Zhuan Kun is always out looking for new opponents.
Lets bring him one!!!
Vesvius
The Wicked God
1. Calibration has nothing to do with the charm's ability to deal with growth. That's all on the charm's design and it's crafter.
2. No.
3. See 1.
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- scrabbling
[X] Yes, you may as well. You want everyone to be able to put forward their best effort in this competition.
Some impropriety introduced does permanently taint the decision, no matter which way you ultimately judge it, but it's Mo's court that would attend/see anyway. Respectability politics aren't exactly going to make Geng Tu's minions less vehement about trying to dunk on KZ.
Some impropriety introduced does permanently taint the decision, no matter which way you ultimately judge it, but it's Mo's court that would attend/see anyway. Respectability politics aren't exactly going to make Geng Tu's minions less vehement about trying to dunk on KZ.
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- USA
[X] Yes, you may as well. You want everyone to be able to put forward their best effort in this competition.
Accepting bribes from randos is literally the only reason to do Mo's scuttwork - plus we can always fail him in the judging stage if other shit is cooler (and maybe pass him to Zhuan then) anyway.
Accepting bribes from randos is literally the only reason to do Mo's scuttwork - plus we can always fail him in the judging stage if other shit is cooler (and maybe pass him to Zhuan then) anyway.
To further elaborate on my 'yes' vote, I think the benefits offered are better than the others.
- First, for the potential rumors of bribery, I think Kong Zhi's clear impartiality as a voter will probably allay most of the more overt rumors,
- I really think that this is a great opportunity for us to, as noted, test more unpredictable and dangerous techniques, as well as serve as a reliable sparring partner for at least the foreseeable future - benefits here are really strong imo
- This is only predicated on one interaction with him, but I'd like to be a little better of a combatant before approaching Zhuan Kun, which is definitely something that should be done to offset Geng Tu's influence
will408914
(slouching towards bethlehem)
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- California
[X] Yes, you may as well. You want everyone to be able to put forward their best effort in this competition.
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- Philippines
[X] Yes, you may as well. You want everyone to be able to put forward their best effort in this competition.
At the very least this has concrete benefit rather than potentially offending Mo Hanying over little gain.
At the very least this has concrete benefit rather than potentially offending Mo Hanying over little gain.
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Wistways
You friendly neighborhood artist
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I don't care if its a maverek option that probably won't win, I think its the best course of action.
Mainly because we already have good sparing partners, and plenty of them. But, the dude does need someone to test it one, and who better to do so than Zhuan Kun?
[x] [X] A charm such as this can only be put to the test by the best. Find Zhuan Kun!
Mainly because we already have good sparing partners, and plenty of them. But, the dude does need someone to test it one, and who better to do so than Zhuan Kun?
[x] [X] A charm such as this can only be put to the test by the best. Find Zhuan Kun!
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- Czech Republic
You should remove the first [x] if you want your vote to count.
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- United States of America
[X] Yes, you may as well. You want everyone to be able to put forward their best effort in this competition.
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
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- The Void
Looks through the discord message logs
Mmmm, spicy vote we have here. I'm surprised ZK write-in got that much.
Mmmm, spicy vote we have here. I'm surprised ZK write-in got that much.
Mhm, I find my self at disagreement with the character read of others that Mo Hanying would take personal offence to usintroducing Boli to Zhuan Kun and having him attend her competition and will try my best to explain why.
She, above else, seeks to not make pointless enemies and I believe that counts Zhuan Kun. At no point in the story have we seen indication for a point of conflict between Zhuan Kun and Mo Hanying to flair up besides the the rumor's amongst our circle of disciples commenting on the big 3 nobles.
Mo hanying however has more potential conflict points with Geng considering her attempts to befriend Nokai and normalize her to the rest of the sect who is afraid of her for being apart of the tribes of the sunset country or otherwise called 'barbarian'.
Hell, look at her philosophy of how to deal with enemies, trying to find lines and making enemies back down willingly or weakening their position and command/respect amongst allies in this quote here from the story.
Like let's be real here, she's a person who can make a word mean a thousand little other things and if she wanted us to do the competition proper she could have just said so but she didn't.
Her interest in us lies in our bluntness and quite frankly weird nature to do strange things completely out of the blue to get results.
Zhuan Kun has been described by Ves as essentially batman who doesn't know money, who pays and tips in silver talents and would probably be surprised that their is such a thing as bronze talents and has been said to fucking buy Sun Yujin his fate tech for 50 unspecified talents and shrug it of when he hears the price of it from his servent as "Ah, not to much then" just because he wanted a a strong cool sparing partner.
He lives in his own world with fuck you I have money from what i've gathered and has no real reason to try and cause conflict with Mo Hanying as he constantly spar's and neither would Mo Hanying have any real reason to cause pointless conflict with Zhuan since it is not her philosophy to just start it out of the blue.
like even disregarding that both Mo Hanying and Zhuan Kun have REASON to have points of conflict with Geng.
Mo obviously because both us and Nokai don't like him and their vying for influence over Nokai for different reasons.
Zhuan because he took away a talented sparring partner.
Yes you got this right, fucking Geng yeeted his loyal follower for fucking attending Mo's event and duel which half the sect attended just to yeet talent away from Zhuan Kuns group.
Lol, both Zhuan and Mo have more points in common for shared conflict with Geng, while conflict between Zhuan and Mo Hanying is just fluff we got from people commenting on the big three nobles in the sect.
Mo made this tournament to observe our character so let's try something out of the ball park for her. Try to develop a connection with Zhuan and have him attend Mo Hanyings crafting tournement.
I can imagine the reeing from Geng when he hears of the nuetral noble appearing with Mo Hanying and what better way to introduce ourselves then to have a charm to face punch Zhuan Kun good.
If we don't fucking go crash through a wall like kool aid man and say "OHHH YEAHHHH" when attending Mo's final judging toruney then what the fuck was our spamming of craft FV for?
I don't see any real reason for a point of conflict between Mo Hanying and Zhuan Kun so i don't see any harm no foul. Mo doesn't start pointless conflicts and to be honest both Zhuan and Mo have more reasons for shared interest in conflict with Geng considering he yeeted one of Zhuan Kuns talents who he may have been interested in like he did for Sun Yujin.
Let's fucking try lads, we have so many interesting actions to do, we could spar with Zhuan's group and develop Zhi's combat skills or hell even our friends. We can explore and do so much, is adding training via a duplicate of us that we'll outlevel once FV done really an action worth adding lads?
Let's fucking try to get Zhuan Kun in the comp mates, I really see litle reason for conflict of interests if we bring him in and Mo doesn't start pointless conflicts and may be interested in an introduction to him if possible and it would be fucking WACK.
Anywho, that's my read on Mo and Zhuan and why I think the fear of angering Mo or Zhuan to be a bit overblown.
As many leave Zhuan's group and he doesn't rage at them like Geng does. Let's cause Geng a heart attack mates.
She, above else, seeks to not make pointless enemies and I believe that counts Zhuan Kun. At no point in the story have we seen indication for a point of conflict between Zhuan Kun and Mo Hanying to flair up besides the the rumor's amongst our circle of disciples commenting on the big 3 nobles.
Mo hanying however has more potential conflict points with Geng considering her attempts to befriend Nokai and normalize her to the rest of the sect who is afraid of her for being apart of the tribes of the sunset country or otherwise called 'barbarian'.
Hell, look at her philosophy of how to deal with enemies, trying to find lines and making enemies back down willingly or weakening their position and command/respect amongst allies in this quote here from the story.
She's willing to try and befriend Nokai who is apart of the many enemies her father faced in the expedition force into sunset country to try and not have an eternal enemy and as we could see when we attended Nokai's ascension of her spirit beasts, he doesn't exactly take to kind to this and is thus at negative rep with us and I can imagine he doesn't like what Mo Hanyings doing with Nokai and normalizing her to the sect.
Like let's be real here, she's a person who can make a word mean a thousand little other things and if she wanted us to do the competition proper she could have just said so but she didn't.
Her interest in us lies in our bluntness and quite frankly weird nature to do strange things completely out of the blue to get results.
Zhuan Kun has been described by Ves as essentially batman who doesn't know money, who pays and tips in silver talents and would probably be surprised that their is such a thing as bronze talents and has been said to fucking buy Sun Yujin his fate tech for 50 unspecified talents and shrug it of when he hears the price of it from his servent as "Ah, not to much then" just because he wanted a a strong cool sparing partner.
He lives in his own world with fuck you I have money from what i've gathered and has no real reason to try and cause conflict with Mo Hanying as he constantly spar's and neither would Mo Hanying have any real reason to cause pointless conflict with Zhuan since it is not her philosophy to just start it out of the blue.
like even disregarding that both Mo Hanying and Zhuan Kun have REASON to have points of conflict with Geng.
Mo obviously because both us and Nokai don't like him and their vying for influence over Nokai for different reasons.
Zhuan because he took away a talented sparring partner.
Yes you got this right, fucking Geng yeeted his loyal follower for fucking attending Mo's event and duel which half the sect attended just to yeet talent away from Zhuan Kuns group.
Lol, both Zhuan and Mo have more points in common for shared conflict with Geng, while conflict between Zhuan and Mo Hanying is just fluff we got from people commenting on the big three nobles in the sect.
Mo made this tournament to observe our character so let's try something out of the ball park for her. Try to develop a connection with Zhuan and have him attend Mo Hanyings crafting tournement.
I can imagine the reeing from Geng when he hears of the nuetral noble appearing with Mo Hanying and what better way to introduce ourselves then to have a charm to face punch Zhuan Kun good.
Her interest in us as a person is how wierd, blunt, and strange in how we go about gettig our results, first it was the night we slept in her hut, the next it was participating in her duel despite being a crafter, next was us surprisingly being honest and seeking a good friendship with Nokai, next was her laughing at us for training Teng Lim who was spying on us, next was her realizing we knew so little on her family that she had to explain to us because Zhi to BUSY CRAFTING, and finally it is whatever the fuck happened to us and our limbs, joining a strange unknown elder, us leading an expedition into the deeps despite being a crafter, and so much more.
If we don't fucking go crash through a wall like kool aid man and say "OHHH YEAHHHH" when attending Mo's final judging toruney then what the fuck was our spamming of craft FV for?
I don't see any real reason for a point of conflict between Mo Hanying and Zhuan Kun so i don't see any harm no foul. Mo doesn't start pointless conflicts and to be honest both Zhuan and Mo have more reasons for shared interest in conflict with Geng considering he yeeted one of Zhuan Kuns talents who he may have been interested in like he did for Sun Yujin.
Let's fucking try lads, we have so many interesting actions to do, we could spar with Zhuan's group and develop Zhi's combat skills or hell even our friends. We can explore and do so much, is adding training via a duplicate of us that we'll outlevel once FV done really an action worth adding lads?
Let's fucking try to get Zhuan Kun in the comp mates, I really see litle reason for conflict of interests if we bring him in and Mo doesn't start pointless conflicts and may be interested in an introduction to him if possible and it would be fucking WACK.
Anywho, that's my read on Mo and Zhuan and why I think the fear of angering Mo or Zhuan to be a bit overblown.
As many leave Zhuan's group and he doesn't rage at them like Geng does. Let's cause Geng a heart attack mates.
Nah, let's get the charm
DangerKitty
shoddy writter
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- lala land
The charm quite bluntly i find wasted on Zhi considering in a few weeks FV has him outlevel base Zhi and we can litteretly go to Zhuan's group and spar with him or his underlings.
I find sparring with a weaker version of ourselves to be quite a boring action amongst the many other rich actions and would say no to getting the charm and yes to potential relationship link with Zhuan.
ContemplateLife
Philosopher Thesaurus
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- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] He should seek out Nokai, and ask for her help. She is a fierce combatant, and a friend of Mo Hanying who isn't a judge.
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- Vermont
It's not a waste if we stress-test it until it explodes, while the other guy watches and takes notes! Then we get a better social link with one of the top crafters in Mo's circle.
Darn. This is also a really tempting idea, but I highly doubt it can get enough traction in the vote to win. ehh needs to start somewhere, and my other preferred is currently winning.
[X] He should seek out Nokai, and ask for her help. She is a fierce combatant, and a friend of Mo Hanying who isn't a judge.
Vesvius
The Wicked God
Zhi does not know that.
