i think that was the badlands

Our major pirate excursion was against the Badlands Pirates on the FedSuns-Taurian Border yeah.

Tortuga should still be there, though given how easily I expect the Clans to bulldoze through the Inner Sphere this time around, given how bled the FedSuns are about to be vis-a-vis Outback Intervention, they may not be there for much longer past the Clan Invasion. . .
 
Tortuga should still be there, though given how easily I expect the Clans to bulldoze through the Inner Sphere this time around, given how bled the FedSuns are about to be vis-a-vis Outback Intervention, they may not be there for much longer past the Clan Invasion. . .

I think Tortuga is located close to the Concord and FedSuns. In the original timeline we are in the opposite side of the invasion corridor.
 
Yeah, it's in the "no man's land" between the Concordat and the Outworlds Alliance, but I think the important thing is that unless the Clan Homeworlds have been relocated, the Clan Invasion shouldn't affect it at all.

I dunno. It depends on how much our Outback Intervention bleeds the FedSuns.

They have thirty mech regiments in the Outback right now only ten of which are mercs.

If we kill those, that's a significant amount of Mechs and MechWarriors unable to be sent against the Clans.
 
If we kill those, that's a significant amount of Mechs and MechWarriors unable to be sent against the Clans.
who cares about the clans that might or might not show up , a bigger issue for the FedSuns will be the Combine cause if they see the Fedrats getting their ass handed to them they might decide to invade the Draconis march preferring to do it now rather than after its new defenses are complete , while also getting a convenient way to get rid of the more traditionally minded samurai who are raising a stink about any reforms
 
who cares about the clans that might or might not show up , a bigger issue for the FedSuns will be the Combine cause if they see the Fedrats getting their ass handed to them they might decide to invade the Draconis march preferring to do it now rather than after its new defenses are complete , while also getting a convenient way to get rid of the more traditionally minded samurai who are raising a stink about any reforms

We've already got confirmation that the Clans are coming, though they aren't the same ones that got to invade in Canon.

If the Combine tries to take advantage, that only weakens the Inner Sphere further for when they arrive.
 
If the Combine tries to take advantage, that only weakens the Inner Sphere further for when they arrive.
So ? , I am not seeing the down sides here ,we are are the periphery we celebrate the Inner sphere getting shafted as a matter of course , we are are on the opposite side of were the clans are going to hit and the clans don't have the population ,industry nor the manpower to take and hold the Inner sphere even if they crush the armies of the great houses in every single battle
 
I dunno. It depends on how much our Outback Intervention bleeds the FedSuns.

They have thirty mech regiments in the Outback right now only ten of which are mercs.

If we kill those, that's a significant amount of Mechs and MechWarriors unable to be sent against the Clans.

Nothing can be done about that, let's make decisions not base on that since nobody should know about them. You know roleplay.

We've already got confirmation that the Clans are coming, though they aren't the same ones that got to invade in Canon.

If the Combine tries to take advantage, that only weakens the Inner Sphere further for when they arrive.

Ubfortunate nobody knows they actually exist and those that do are foward scouts. The QM even said that more than just four Clans will invaded so it will be even worse than was in cannon.

The original timeline the invasion happened due to the formation of the FedCom. I guess it's possible in this timeline they will invade because of Helghan actions.

Thanks to Helghan, the Inner Sphere have rediscovered the concept of Warship and power armour, including introducing a new type of FTL.
 
So ? , I am not seeing the down sides here ,we are are the periphery we celebrate the Inner sphere getting shafted as a matter of course , we are are on the opposite side of were the clans are going to hit and the clans don't have the population ,industry nor the manpower to take and hold the Inner sphere even if they crush the armies of the great houses in every single battle

Because if the Inner Sphere falls, the Periphery is next.

The Clans' goal isn't just to conquer the Inner Sphere, it's to take over all the former Star League territories, which includes every member of our bloc except us. . .
 
So ? , I am not seeing the down sides here ,we are are the periphery we celebrate the Inner sphere getting shafted as a matter of course , we are are on the opposite side of were the clans are going to hit and the clans don't have the population ,industry nor the manpower to take and hold the Inner sphere even if they crush the armies of the great houses in every single battle

I don't know if we should celebrate the Inner Sphere being conquered by a bunch of eugenicist fascists that have slavery.
 
Because if the Inner Sphere falls, the Periphery is next.

The Clans' goal isn't just to conquer the Inner Sphere, it's to take over all the former Star League territories, which includes every member of our bloc except us. . .
the clans can't actually hold the inner sphere though and without Com* levels of polt armor they wouldn't be able to absorb the Lyrans and the Dracs even if they crushed them militarily , they don't have the numbers nor the logistics to support an occupation and their culture is too alien to assimilate them , at worst they will inflict immense devastation before lossing large chunks of their conquest to more internal issues than they have troops to suppress
I don't know if we should celebrate the Inner Sphere being conquered by a bunch of eugenicist fascists that have slavery.
considering the Combine that would honestly be an improvement in government for your average Drac peasant
 
Really? That is not a high bar to clear. The Clans are still a bunch of facisit that operates a caste-based society. Nobody deserves to live under the Clans.
barley any change from the combine socially then , but I am pretty sure the clans treat their none warrior castes better than the Combine treats its peasants in general terms, for one thing they aren't expected or required to fight and don't need to fear conscription which is much better than what they can expect in the combine
 
..... Dude we are going to war with them at July 3047 how have you missed that? Also the clans are more the inner spheres problem that us and our allies will take advantage of the situation.
Crap I forgot about that detail, also I don't think this will be just a inner sphere problem since there no fedcom and the fact that the only people who did stop the clan invasion are split.
 
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Trying to get back to this as RL permits.

Some, ah, interesting decision making last few turns I see. 🤮

Quick question for @prometheus110 : how well do we rate the logistics of putting together a hack and slash raid on New Syrtis with the end goal of capturing Duke McFuckFace for trial (he's a capitalist noble, we still have Capital Punishment for people who are that bad on the books right), pinning multiple RCTs and then executing them via massed Noctis ortillery fire, and burning down their entire Naval yard?

I'd love to send a message that there is nowhere safe from the Helghan Republic Navy and that First Prince McFuckFace is gonna be next if he doesn't learn2negotiate. Praecipimus Astra, bitches.
 
Trying to get back to this as RL permits.

Some, ah, interesting decision making last few turns I see. 🤮

Quick question for @prometheus110 : how well do we rate the logistics of putting together a hack and slash raid on New Syrtis with the end goal of capturing Duke McFuckFace for trial (he's a capitalist noble, we still have Capital Punishment for people who are that bad on the books right), pinning multiple RCTs and then executing them via massed Noctis ortillery fire, and burning down their entire Naval yard?

I'd love to send a message that there is nowhere safe from the Helghan Republic Navy and that First Prince McFuckFace is gonna be next if he doesn't learn2negotiate. Praecipimus Astra, bitches.

Ey! Welcome back. Hope RL isn't treating you too badly.

You've got a new look, I see. I love the whole 'We shall drown them in blood and fire and steel!' chic you've got going! :V
 
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Ey! Welcome back. Hope RL isn't treating you too badly.

You've got a new look, I see. I love the whole 'We shall drown them in blood and fire and steel!' chic you've got going! :V

The Federated Suns is an illegitimate government of capitalist oppressors crouched upon the back of the common worker like a parasite. Its nobles shall be separated from their positions of power in the traditional way: a sharp blade positioned with a great deal of kinetic energy somewhere around Cervical Vertebrae #3.
 
We've already got confirmation that the Clans are coming, though they aren't the same ones that got to invade in Canon.
That doesn't matter though because none of the leaders of Helgan know that the Clans exist.

The only people in the Sphere that know the Clans exist are the Wolf Dragoons (who haven't told anybody or done anything outside the planet Outreach to prepare), Snord's Irregulars (who are far too busy tracking down collectibles that conveniently happen to be in old SLDF bases that nobody knows about) and the remnants of Clan Wolverine (who aren't speaking to anybody about anything because they already tried playing nicely with others and look where that got them)
 
The Federated Suns is an illegitimate government of capitalist oppressors crouched upon the back of the common worker like a parasite. Its nobles shall be separated from their positions of power in the traditional way: a sharp blade positioned with a great deal of kinetic energy somewhere around Cervical Vertebrae #3.

And the navy is our scalpel. I see, I see. :V

Come to think of it, I do recall reading something bout feds as initially democratic then Davions usurped the original leadership or something.
 
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Come to think of it, I do recall reading something bout feds as initially democratic then Davions usurped the original leadership or something.
Almost all IS nations used to be democracies of some kind that later degenerated into neo-feudalism. I have not read much about it (mainly because there's not much to read about it) but in theory this is due to the fact that democracies are "soft" and so they couldn't survive the "hard rigors" of war (the pre-star league period is as violent as the Succesion Wars with the only difference being that technology didn't degrade, instead, it advanced).​
 
Trying to get back to this as RL permits.

Some, ah, interesting decision making last few turns I see. 🤮

Quick question for @prometheus110 : how well do we rate the logistics of putting together a hack and slash raid on New Syrtis with the end goal of capturing Duke McFuckFace for trial (he's a capitalist noble, we still have Capital Punishment for people who are that bad on the books right), pinning multiple RCTs and then executing them via massed Noctis ortillery fire, and burning down their entire Naval yard?

I'd love to send a message that there is nowhere safe from the Helghan Republic Navy and that First Prince McFuckFace is gonna be next if he doesn't learn2negotiate. Praecipimus Astra, bitches.
it'd be difficult, but it could be done. It's a lot easier as a quick in and out operation to snatch a guy and drop some bombs from orbit than it would be to invade.

Almost all IS nations used to be democracies of some kind that later degenerated into neo-feudalism. I have not read much about it (mainly because there's not much to read about it) but in theory this is due to the fact that democracies are "soft" and so they couldn't survive the "hard rigors" of war (the pre-star league period is as violent as the Succesion Wars with the only difference being that technology didn't degrade, instead, it advanced).


It was a fairly common theme in 1980s wargaming and very stupid.
 
Burn down some of their shit while the exploiters of mankind scream helplessly.

Water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants (televise it via WCC, even!)

This is what is good in life. *sage Genghis nod*
 
And the navy is our scalpel. I see, I see. :V

Come to think of it, I do recall reading something bout feds as initially democratic then Davions usurped the original leadership or something.

Not really, it was meant to be a constitutional monarchy since the beginning since ruling it's vast territories would be extremely hard for a full democracy.

Unfortunate they constitution don't hold any weight thanks to nobles slowing diminishing the power of democratic institutions over the years. They still are the "good guys" of the Successor States and the ones that actually give a damn about human rights, tolerance and equality but they are hardly a democratic nation anymore.

Only the Free Rasalhague Republic, a breakaway state between the Combine and the Lyran Commonwealth, was considerate a true democracy, in other words a federation, in the Inner Sphere but adopt some feudal trappings to avoid upsetting they neighbors. They Elected Prince was just another word for president.

This people managed to maintain a national identity for almost a millennium under the Combine while a resistance movement survive for 700 years, but they finally managed to achieved they independence again, even if was just to be a truce zone. They have the rotten luck to stand directly in the path of the Clan Invasion.
 
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