I am doing a grater divination so I can throw on a double down. You can not double down the free divination.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Doomed Wombat
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Ok then just please...Eldar divination please Ahra.
Anything that requires more than one Transcendent needs to be resolved ASAP.
@Durin
1. If we do an Eldar Choice divination this turn would they have us trying to help them find Ahra?
2. If we explicitly choose to do that divination, does it still count towards buying favors?
Tryanids will never attack Avernus again or if they do the Planet mind takes care of them. The illusion pines are for what else may attack. Because the best time to attack will be when the Tryanid hit the Trust. Expanding a large city to a small hive is not even a band aid because population growth is so great. We need to get the huge forge hive start next turn.
On using Ridicully and the Norn Queen we have to do the divination before we do the poison. We have until year 4 when Maxinal starts the dissection to perform the divination.
Enerael
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If this is true, and there are no greater apocalypses around, they will ask for it. If not, there are bigger priorities.
The Eldar know what they are doing.
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Might just be my reading, but I don't think that's viable.
If they're doing the poison then Rids can't divine.
Durin 1. Would they appreciate Rids throwing a divination his way? Like divining his exact location kinda delio?
1. they would but understand if you have more urgent matters to deal with.
They're being awkward about this and we do have the right to focus on things we consider important.
The Eldar unfortunately have to focus on the latest brush fire so lets divine Ahra and hopefully put out one coming in the distance. Before it turns Khorne into a new super sayain.
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Enerael
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Again, the Eldar are not stupid. If there are no even greater problems that Rids could help with, they will ask for this.
Stop micromanaging them.
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No they're not stupid, there's just infinite problems they need to solve, so us trying to help them on one of their biggest issues is not a bad thing.
They have other people who can divine the level 4 waaarghs, how abouts instead we divine one of the most dangerous beings in the galaxy hmm?
Put rid's speciality to work.
In short I don't think they'll ask us to help with Ahra unless he's their most immediate problem, but he's the future's biggest one at the moment and dealing with him free's up a pair of Phoenix Lords so ensuring that we get him I feel is a small price to pay for "micromanaging."
Enerael
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Yet again, they are not stupid.
What they ask for is within Rids speciality, they have other seers for different things.
They are not so shortsighted, the galaxy would be dead by now if they were. And they pretty much specialize in ending threats while they are small.
A pair of Phoenix Lords are indeed a very valuable asset, but they have others doing who knows what, not to mention seers, fleets, armies, etc. For all we know there is another matter that is tying up 4 Phoenix Lords currently, that Rids could help with instead.
Yes, this is micromanaging.
Doomed Wombat
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You say that despite us being repeatedly told that they are incapable of preparing for long term threats effectively because they're constantly trying to contain and put threats in the here and now.
Rid's speciality is finding things and people, finding Ahra is right up his alley.
The galaxy would be dead right now if they weren't so short sighted they have to be.
Presumably they've got lords doing things like dealing with the destroyer, but we've got the Twilight council freaking out over Ahra, not over the Destroyer at the moment, presumably because Ahra's almost literally got a gun pressed to part of their actual psyche.
Enerael
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If they ignored longer term threat in favor of immediate this galaxy is dead already. They just have so much immediate stuff to deal with that they have little to spare for the longer term things.
2 Phoenix Lords say that this is either an immediate problem, or important enough to command extremely valuable assets anyway.
And helping them with the immediate would free them up to deal with longer term things.
If Rids speciality is a good fit for helping with this, their own seers a bad one, and they do not have something even more important for him to divine, they will ask for it.
Seriously, this is textbook micromanaging.
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More like long-term growth.
The Eldar spend all their time trying to contain the exponential (i.e long-term) threats that pop up everywhere.
Long run, sure. But if we want something to fight the Nids currently on the way Cruiser is about as big as we can go. Even a Grand Cruiser probably wouldn't be ready by the time the Nids reach us.
This remains a foolish action. Avernus's defences are already insanely tough and very expensive. The only meaningful threats to our cities are Demonic Incursions and Ork Waaaghs, neither of which care much about illusions because they just attack everything.
No one else is going to waste troops attacking Avernus until the rest of the Trust has been obliterated.
We really don't want to waste yet more resources maintaining the upkeep on defences that are unlikely to ever be attacked.
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If they ignored the current threats in favour of the long term then we'd also already be dead, you see their problem.
Exactly, so let's get on that ****. Two pheonix lords tells me this needs to get solved right the heck now and I want to ensure 100% that Rids is on it rather than divining how Abaddon's going to win his waaargh.
Or they won't since apparently they've decided to be bashful about it, I don't know why they thought that asking about Abaddon's waaargh was a good idea, but apparently it was, but Rid's speciality is ward busting and information gathering whose better for finding Ahra than he is the man whose got wards that apply a -100 debuff?
Well in this case it seems like that is very much needed, we don't have to trust them on everything
Well lets make sure they can contain the one that has the potential to ****ing neuter their abilities.
Again Ahra plans to do a ritual that involves their ability to wage war and is raging asshat.
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So anyone have any ideas to what is taking a good number of our psykers? We know Avernus is involved and I actually think from a pragmatic point of view that we should be grateful since we are already having a bit of trouble dealing with the ones we already have to deal with. If we are lucky whatever is taking said psykers will also end up taking our next Alpha+ before they cause much damage.
Just curious to what people think could be taking them.
Just curious to what people think could be taking them.
Enerael
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? didn't we kill that guy who was kidnapping our psykers? Arathea was involved I remember.
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Yes, it was a tzenchian deamon called whisper, and the psykers taken mostly threw in their lot with Turoq irrc.
Doomed Wombat
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Well it's possible nothing is taking them, and its the result of Avernus making modifications for unknown purposes or Avernus kidnapping people for reasons again unknown.
It was suggested that it was a new creature it's testing on us, but why target minor psykers?
Indeed he is, but did we really need to know how Abby's war is going to end?
He's got it in the bag.
We did this is about the trend of higher power psykers emerging, it's been happening since the double + incident as far as we can tell.
We think this time its Avernus doing a thing.
We have even odds of getting attacked. Unless the rest go chaos in the region sends help in a decade More'lix Will fall. Rotbart things we have even odds of a crusade to kill Saint Lin. Also the Trust is gaining galatic fame. We need to improve the defenses and illusion trees make it harder for enemies to find out what defenses we have as well as a bonus to defenses.
Enerael
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Us? No. The Eldar? Yes. And even if him winning was a given, knowing when and how much is still vital info. Gotta keep him busy after all.
Oh come on, no this again. Avernus is just increasing our major psyker numbers faster than minors is all, there has been no indication whatsoever of mass disappearances like that.
People just jumped to conclusions and ran with it.
Doomed Wombat
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It's abs so when the explosions are largest and for thoroughly are reasonable assumptions. He's apparently going to be taking it easy for a bit. Level 4 took something out of him.
Mass disappearances confirmed no, but Durin confirmed that there was something going on.
It's why he's bothering to put it in the update and has for the last several ones since we noticed it.
Enerael
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That "something" could just be a faster growth of majors.
Also, that we have known of this for so long and were not offered an action to address it says to me that its not something as sinister as a bunch of Avernites being disappeared/eaten.
Jane would have checked if it's that.
Doomed Wombat
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Alternatively its something she simply cannot investigate?
For example how are we going to investigate if its something like HWWO (to use an extreme example) doing it?
I personally hope its just more majors, but let us not rule out the PM testing something new out on us or something like that.
Enerael
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Easily. Check for the numbers and circumstances of young Avernites deaths and disappearances.
These are minor psykers before we find them remember. And wildlife which kills inside of our hives is very well studied.
If there were a suspicious number of disappearances which she could not investigate, she would ask for support, up to requesting Rids time.
Also, we are running a police state, disappearing Avernites from inside of our hives is damn hard and very very suspicious.