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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Binge-Reader said:
Also for Lin can we not cleanse worlds anymore, we're getting shit ton of them from the Dnest so working on research till he dies is better.
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Those planets are not ours. Those planets belong to their established groups already. And they are more towards the DN than they would us. We want to have as large of a population of our own in order to keep our powerbase. These worlds would also be colonized much faster than the last set of colonies.

jjffjhjf said:
The worlds we've been clearing are pretty close to our own worlds, which makes them more valuable to the trust. Though if I understand correctly, we've finished cleansing all the worlds to at least low levels of taint. Making it easy enough for Avernites or Niflheimers to settle there.
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No we have 4 left at medium. And to remind people low is no rhreat to only us and the planet of blanks. They are still a threat to everyone one else and would have higher cults and corruption even on low.
 
Adventwolf said:
Those planets are not ours. Those planets belong to their established groups already. And they are more towards the DN than they would us. We want to have as large of a population of our own in order to keep our powerbase. These worlds would also be colonized much faster than the last set of colonies.



No we have 4 left at medium. And to remind people low is no rhreat to only us and the planet of blanks. They are still a threat to everyone one else and would have higher cults and corruption even on low.
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while still important things to keep in mind? yes, planets are valuable.

lin's researchs are worth more then 4 planets.

remember we will be able to give the researchs to our allys and will continue benifiting us for thousands if not tens of thousands of years.

also, the whole point of a merger is that we would still end up benifiting from it....those planets would still be producing resources that would go towards ships and solders that would wage war on our enemys.
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the planets however would only end up getting colonizing 1000 or so years sooner anyway.

which is better? 4000 years worth of planet production or 10,000 years of benefits from lin's unique actions for every single still-sane human policy in the galaxy?
(oh, and also the lore-stuff as well. who doesnt like durin's mini-omakes? who doesnt want to know more about the warp, gods and other such things?)

(BTW: I'm changing my name to Dragon soon)
 
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Here's my incomplete draft plan. I'm flagging, so I'm going to bed before finishing it.

Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1:
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2:

Void Command
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Construct: Gjallarhorn
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 3

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Expand (Mirkwood) to Small Hive
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Expand Hyper Advanced Juve-nat factories
SLOT C - Year 2
-Y2: Expand Juve-nat factories

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1:

Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-4: Greater Psyker Hunting
-Y5: Counter-Intelligence
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Train Grandmaster Psyker Hunters

AdMech
SLOT A - Year 5 (Explorator)
-Y5: Technology Fundamentals: (Gravity Tech)
SLOT B - Year 4 (Biologis)
-Y4: Norn Queen
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT C - Year 2 (Fabricator General)
-Y2: Technological Improvements: (Exotic Material)
SLOT D - Year 4 (Free)
-Y4: Vortex Stockpile

Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Train Grandmaster Witch Hunters
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Cleanse World (Moderate)
-Y2:

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Focused Divination (Dragon's Nest, Infiltrators)
-Y3: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)
-Y4: Greater Divination (Campaign Assistance)
-Y5:
SLOT B - Year 1 (Aria)
-Y1: Implement (Rune of Power)
-Y3: Battle Preparations
-Y4: Battle Preparations
-Y5: Deployment
SLOT C - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)

Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: Spend Time With (Tormod)
 
Adventwolf said:
Those planets are not ours. Those planets belong to their established groups already. And they are more towards the DN than they would us. We want to have as large of a population of our own in order to keep our powerbase. These worlds would also be colonized much faster than the last set of colonies.
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I honestly don't think securing a political base is worth wasting more potential Lin actions. It's really unlikely we'll get someone as good as Lin at research ever again so we shouldn't waste his slots on things other than that.
 
Departmento Munitorum
SLOT A
Y1: Anti-Psyker Training: Militia
Y2: Implement (Ration pills): Planning
Y4: Implement (Codiac support Artillery): Planning

Antipskyer Militis gives our Military +10 against psykers. Also Look at ration pills and harassment artillery

Void Command
Y3: Construct: Gjallarhorn
ITS 16 Years and gives us 12 battleships

Adeptus Adminstratum
Slot A
Y3: Illusory Pines: Total
Slot B
Y3: Implement tech (food)
Slot C
Y4: Expand Hyper Advanced Juve-nat factories
I think we will be attacked when the Tryanids hit subsector Cobalt so I want to get the illusion tress us and get our juvent started. Food should only have one left so it will finish next turn.

Diplomancy
Y1: Trade Talks (first Lizard men find oout what they have to trade and want)
Y2: Trade Talks (Second Lizard men find out what they have to traaade and want)
Y3: Trade Talks (Svartlfhiem) Get Jane Time device
Y4: Nynye Poisonmaking
Y5: Request ( Inquisition help when Saint Lin Studies the Primordial Sea
See what the lizarmen have, get Jane her time travel device, start the Nyne Poison, I am doing it later since we need it For Ridicully to divine.

Adeptus Arbites
Slot A
Y1-5: Greater Psyker Hunting
Slot B
Y3: Counter Intelligence
Y4: Train Grandmaster Psyker Hunters
Start Grand masters so one counterintelligence and Hunt Psykers

Adeptus mechanicus
Tranth
Y5: Fundamentals of Gravity
Maximal
Y4: Norn Queen DOUBLE DOWN Y4
Scott
Y2: Vortex Stockpile
Y5: Legio Cybernetica
Free Action
Y4: Technological Improvements: Advance Material

Minisortum
SLOT A
Y1: Train Grandmaster Witch Hunters
SLOT B
Y1: Cleanse World
Y2: Cleanse World
Y3: Cleanse World
Y4: Cleanse World
Y5: The Nature of (Primarchs) DOUBLE DOWN Y5
Starting Grand masters I may change this but we do need the help with Psykers as they get worse. Cleansing worlds becasue they will never be done if LIn does not do them and becasue of the Double Downs needed by other characters. Ridicully needs them for 1-2and #. Also for once we have a Biologis action that can use it.

Telepathica
Ridicully
Y1: Greater Divination ( Use Nord Queen to find out tryanids abilities and powers) DOUBLE DOWN Y1
Y2: Greater Divination (Eldar's Choice) DOUBLE DOWN Y2
Y3: Research: Tyranid Frequencies DOUBLE DOWN Y3
Free Divination Eldar's Choice
Aria
Y1: Implement (Siren Rune)
Y3: Implement (Siren Rune)
Y5: Deployment
We need to use the Norn Queen before anyone else to help with divination. Also we need to help the Eldar with Ahra since they have forces looking for him to stop him. Doing the Siren rune becasue we need them need recommendations.

Personal
Slot A
Y1: Deploy Fleet
Spend time
Y!-Y5: Tormund

Right Now I think it is one action to deploy the fleet waiting to hear back from Durin but I may move actions around. Tormund gets all the personal time.
As always I appreciate suggestion with good reasons. We have a lot that need double downs such as divinations and studying the Norn to Saint Lin
 
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Special Issue Impalers
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Nightingale Brigade

Void Command
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Construct: Gjallarhorn
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 3

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 2
-Y2: Expand (Mirkwood) to Small Hive
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Expand Hyper Advanced Juve-nat factories
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Expand Juve-nat factories

(OOC Note; We have 1 4 Year and 2 3 Years, not 2 3 Years and 1 2 Years)

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Nynye Poisonmaking
-Y2:
-Y3:
-Y4:
-Y5:

Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-4: Greater Psyker Hunting
-Y5: Counter-Intelligence
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Train Grandmaster Psyker Hunters

AdMech
SLOT A - Year 5 (Explorator)
-Y5: Technology Fundamentals: (Gravity Tech)
SLOT B - Year 4 (Biologis)
-Y4: Norn Queen
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT C - Year 2 (Fabricator General)
-Y2: Technological Improvements: (Exotic Material)
SLOT D - Year 4 (Free)
-Y4: Vortex Stockpile

Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Train Grandmaster Witch Hunters
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Cleanse World (Moderate)
-Y2: Cleanse World (Moderate)
-Y3: The Nature of (Eldar Pantheon)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Greater Divination (Campaign Assistance)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y2: Focused Divination (Dragon's Nest, Infiltrators)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
-Y4: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)
-Y5: Focused Divination (Dragon's Nest, Infiltrators)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 1 (Aria)
-Y1: Implement (Rune of Power)
-Y3: Battle Preparations
-Y4: Battle Preparations
-Y5: Deployment
SLOT C - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)

Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: Spend Time With (Tormod)

@Enjou

Filled out your draft.
 
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Andres110 said:
One GD on looking for an Abomination attack. That's all we need.
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I strongly disagree, one GD is likely worth a million or so lives....your dropping a million lives on the idle wondering of our PC.

oh, and moderate clensings in all three plans....imma wait and see what enjou does and probly just copy past someone minus the clensing.
 
Nurgle said:
Y1: Anti-Psyker Training: Militia
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We're gonna need more than one slot open to implement military tech. I'd recommend doing the implement actions for the Ordinatus, The Boar General combat vehicle and Ion Barrier projectors for slot 1 so we have two slots open for next turn.

Nurgle said:
Doing the Siren rune becasue we need them need recommendations.
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Rune of Protection, Rune of Toughness. Psyker protection and anti psyker abilities.
 
Chlof said:
We're gonna need more than one slot open to implement military tech. I'd recommend doing the implement actions for the Ordinatus, The Boar General combat vehicle and Ion Barrier projectors for slot 1 so we have two slots open for next turn.


Rune of Protection, Rune of Toughness. Psyker protection and anti psyker abilities.
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Can not do ion projector because xenotech. Wish we could since it would increase defenses but ce la vi.
 
random_npc said:
the last time the abomination took a swing at us, it hit us when we where distracted. A second shot at lin when we're busy is a moderately high risk in my opinion.
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This kind of thing is literally one of the reasons we set up the order of Omens. If they are going to strike in the next decade or two they'd let us know. Not to mention that we are already gearing up for war against the Nids and if an abom crusade is sent it's going to be against Avernus and it's the place most ready for such a thing already anyway.
 
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Red Bovine said:
This kind of thing is literally one of the reasons we set up the order of Omens. If they are going to strike in the next decade or two they'd let us know. Not to mention that we are already gearing up for war against the Nids and if an abom crusade is sent it's going to be against Avernus and it's the place most ready for such a thing already anyway.
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the omens has also even had a while to build up too. a full GD is complete overkill
 
A Divination to check for a Crusade only matters at this point if it being present or absent would change our choices. As we are already in build-up mode I don't see that as being likely.

For cleansing worlds, I would like people to consider holding off on that action and use it as fill—to allow us to line up the other actions and/or to allow us to more easily DD on actions we want to take. I agree that it is a worthwhile action, bu we have a decent amount of time to do it in.

I'd like to push the Nyne trade back at least to year two just to ensure we've got the Queen intact for all of Ridcully's Divination. We aren't planning on using the poison this wave anyway, so it doesn't make sense to push for fast completion.
 
YAY! my name change got approved...must be a slow day for the mods and I hope the "previously tom smith" doenst disapear for a while.
 
Enjou said:
*Looks at Telepathica section. Looks at things that needs to be done. Looks at action slots.*

@Durin
1. What's the latest we can start building a new Psyker City before we incur penalties?
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1. 10 years
Enjou said:
*sigh* There's so many different ways to read that quote it's effectively useless in terms of determining how worried we should actually be.

@Durin
1. How likely does Rotbart think an Abomination Crusade actually is.
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1. he estimates even odds
runes said:
@Durin did we or anybody else ever build one of these? And if so how many Titans do we now have?
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not so far
 
Durin said:
you need a design to use the Psychic Cannon by the way
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oooh, this is big. we need A psychic cannon if ONLY so that we can test it out for the epicness of it.

I NEED a one-shot done on a nid-ship.
I NEED a one-shot done on a deamon ship.

if durin doesnt describe it in a canon post I need someone to do a o-make for it. go into full detail if you can, I want that explosion!

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1. he estimates even odds
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ohhh. and thats VERY different from my original interpictation of his ponderance .....alright, GD could be needed....I know rid divs are near guranteed (or even properly guranteed if the enemy is too crappy at anti div actions)...but what about:
(1): what about a minor diviation?
(1b): how many does rid have of those?
(1c): what if we had someone else do it? how likely would they succeed?
(1d): how likely is the order of omens to find it out on their own?

(2): also, do we know when they are coming? ....

....if lin dies of old age before they even get here, get ready for a burial cas I will laugh my head clean off my shoulders.
 
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