Cool, but we most probably won't get help before next HC's meeting, and we certainly won't start making anything for them before next turn. I don't think we have enough diplo push to make both Eldars and Psy-Knights important enough to get action before meeting. Why can't it wait for the next turn, at least?
The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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I mean, I'd be a horribly biasd liar if I said it couldn't wait till next turn. It's just getting it done this turn let's us follow up next turn incase it's a failure. It's also something I can see us getting aid with without a HC vote. Whereas helping the Eldar will almost certainly need a HC vote.
- Location
- Africa
I know a lot of people were against titian design cause it was too much time , cost too much or would take too long to be useful , but how about Knight redesign like we did the space marine power armor so that our knights take full advantage of the advanced weapons ,armor and power systems we have or gained , we already have all the knight titan designs so how about we upgrade them unlike the proper titans' these are something the trust can use right away and we have a new knight house setting up shop in Avernus and they could use an upgrade plus we can use the knight building/designing experience seeing as we will be needing it to make psy knights
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
@Durin
1. Besides making an Order of Psi Throne Mechanicum what else do we need to do to get the program up and running?
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I feel that not getting ~100+ billion thrones is a bit too high of a price for a better chance at succeeding - it's not like we need to contact all that many people, anyway. Point about better possibility of getting help without HC, though.
- Location
- Back in Cali
We do need to get the HC approval for anything with the Eldar. Since we are not allowed to do diplomacy on our own. Once we have permission to make the deal then we can choose who and what we send out.
- Location
- Spain
Well, @Nurgle , there you have it. The best way of saving Lin is to produce High-Quality Omakes related to the Eldar or Isha.
That, or you can try to convince the guys who have already written many high-quality omakes for this quest, like Addio, Andres110, Doomed Wombat, Enjou, Piren'e Colass, Reynal, Shard, Valkur, random_npc, thamuzz, ... To focus on the Eldar and Isha for a while.
I would try, but I am a bad writer.
New Armor for Old Knights
- Location
- madison
New Armor for Old Knights
While the sheer number of new knight patterns recently uncovered beggars belief, four patterns have been identified for a specific use. As the Trust lacks titan production capabilities, (a situation ironically prolonged by this miraculous discovery), the destruction of Gargants and other super heavies has fallen to the sons of Aesir time and time again. While it is a task our brave knights have carried out with valor, it has taken a grim toll in blood and engines. To alleviate this, the Divisio Armamentarium has assessed a number of designs that may be more effective for this role, albeit with modification in many cases.
Dominus Knight Castellan:
A well-known pattern that we believe may be converted into an effective superheavy-killer. While modification and incorporation of our more advanced reactors are still ongoing, it is probable this pattern will be able to mount a pair of overcharged neutron Annihilators as primary weapons. If optimistic projections are true, it will also be able to power a trio of neutron cannons as carapace weapons. While it would have to maintain an inglorious distance, it would be able to effectively engage even great Gargents at long range.
Dominus Knight Valiant:
A far more aggressive design, the Valiant is well-named, possessing an immensely effective if incredibly short ranged anti-titan weapon: the Thundercoil Harpoon. Perhaps one of the most deadly mass-deployable weapons in its weight bracket, we believe we can enhance it further. With the greater power budget from our advanced reactors, it should be possible to incorporate an accelerator cannon into the assembly for greater penetration, as well as having a larger power budget to feed power through the chain. We believe we may be able to create an extremely deadly weapon that can slay great Gargents, and en masse damage even mega Gargents. The dangers of engaging Orks at their preferred range are self-evident, but let it never be said the sons of aesir are easily cowed.
Cerastus Knight Atrapos:
Much as the Dominus knights are famous, the Atrapos is infamous, the cold and inhuman rage of its machine spirit a dark legend. The machines rage lives up to its reputation, but so too does its raw capacity for destruction. I am hesitant to recommend any but the most cursory alterations to this machine. The machine spirit is near perpetually enraged and hungering for battle; any alterations would need to be made with the greatest of care. Fortunately, few are needed. test firings of the lascutter and Graviton singularity cannon suggest they would easily penetrate nearly any armor they are likely to encounter. While they require a number of relic components to construct, a single maniple of our best knights would be able to cut a burning swathe through any Gargents the orks could field. The single major modification I would be comfortable suggesting would be the replacing of its las cutter with a second Graviton singularity cannon should it be feasible. I have interfaced with the test chassis, and I believe this is a change the machine spirit would find most agreeable.
Acastus Knight Porphyrion:
The Porphyrions claim to fame is simple: it is quite nearly the size of a scout titan. While nowhere near as swift, it is slightly better armed and armored. The application of such a knight in titan hunting is fairly straightforward, as it is the closest thing we possess to a titan of our own. Much like how Warhound packs can be set against heavier titans, I believe a maniple of Porphyrion knights may be an effective counter to hostile super heavies. While it would take some doing, I am certain that it would be possible to equip them with Gravitic Accelerator Cannons, if not Neutron Obliterators. As for secondary armaments, they are too light to be effective against super heavies. However, they would be well suited to engaging most forms of smaller hunter-killer units, such as massed tanks or heavy infantry.
As you may have noticed, all of these patterns are very expensive. While the increased industrial output does much to lessen the sting, these patterns would need to be employed in limited numbers. Still, it is the conclusion of myself and my staff of war-savants that the creation of specialized titan-killer formations would be a worthwhile investment of resources. May you live in glory.
@Durin I wrote up a thing for Asgard. many thanks to the people who helped beta this.
While the sheer number of new knight patterns recently uncovered beggars belief, four patterns have been identified for a specific use. As the Trust lacks titan production capabilities, (a situation ironically prolonged by this miraculous discovery), the destruction of Gargants and other super heavies has fallen to the sons of Aesir time and time again. While it is a task our brave knights have carried out with valor, it has taken a grim toll in blood and engines. To alleviate this, the Divisio Armamentarium has assessed a number of designs that may be more effective for this role, albeit with modification in many cases.
Dominus Knight Castellan:
A well-known pattern that we believe may be converted into an effective superheavy-killer. While modification and incorporation of our more advanced reactors are still ongoing, it is probable this pattern will be able to mount a pair of overcharged neutron Annihilators as primary weapons. If optimistic projections are true, it will also be able to power a trio of neutron cannons as carapace weapons. While it would have to maintain an inglorious distance, it would be able to effectively engage even great Gargents at long range.
Dominus Knight Valiant:
A far more aggressive design, the Valiant is well-named, possessing an immensely effective if incredibly short ranged anti-titan weapon: the Thundercoil Harpoon. Perhaps one of the most deadly mass-deployable weapons in its weight bracket, we believe we can enhance it further. With the greater power budget from our advanced reactors, it should be possible to incorporate an accelerator cannon into the assembly for greater penetration, as well as having a larger power budget to feed power through the chain. We believe we may be able to create an extremely deadly weapon that can slay great Gargents, and en masse damage even mega Gargents. The dangers of engaging Orks at their preferred range are self-evident, but let it never be said the sons of aesir are easily cowed.
Cerastus Knight Atrapos:
Much as the Dominus knights are famous, the Atrapos is infamous, the cold and inhuman rage of its machine spirit a dark legend. The machines rage lives up to its reputation, but so too does its raw capacity for destruction. I am hesitant to recommend any but the most cursory alterations to this machine. The machine spirit is near perpetually enraged and hungering for battle; any alterations would need to be made with the greatest of care. Fortunately, few are needed. test firings of the lascutter and Graviton singularity cannon suggest they would easily penetrate nearly any armor they are likely to encounter. While they require a number of relic components to construct, a single maniple of our best knights would be able to cut a burning swathe through any Gargents the orks could field. The single major modification I would be comfortable suggesting would be the replacing of its las cutter with a second Graviton singularity cannon should it be feasible. I have interfaced with the test chassis, and I believe this is a change the machine spirit would find most agreeable.
Acastus Knight Porphyrion:
The Porphyrions claim to fame is simple: it is quite nearly the size of a scout titan. While nowhere near as swift, it is slightly better armed and armored. The application of such a knight in titan hunting is fairly straightforward, as it is the closest thing we possess to a titan of our own. Much like how Warhound packs can be set against heavier titans, I believe a maniple of Porphyrion knights may be an effective counter to hostile super heavies. While it would take some doing, I am certain that it would be possible to equip them with Gravitic Accelerator Cannons, if not Neutron Obliterators. As for secondary armaments, they are too light to be effective against super heavies. However, they would be well suited to engaging most forms of smaller hunter-killer units, such as massed tanks or heavy infantry.
As you may have noticed, all of these patterns are very expensive. While the increased industrial output does much to lessen the sting, these patterns would need to be employed in limited numbers. Still, it is the conclusion of myself and my staff of war-savants that the creation of specialized titan-killer formations would be a worthwhile investment of resources. May you live in glory.
@Durin I wrote up a thing for Asgard. many thanks to the people who helped beta this.
Love it, really captures what we can do with the new Knights with regards to anti titan work. Hopefully we can customize our own house to use these patterns heavily.
Shouldn't require much encouragement, anti titan capabilities probably translate well to dragon slaying ability. Avernus Heavy Maniples anyone?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I dunno about that, but one idea I did have on omakes was...well the Eldar diverting Gork and Mork into the Chaos Gods.
Nurgle needs to be distracted and there's no better time when its getting the living daylights beaten out of it by a giant green football hooligan.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
"OI! THAT FAT GIT IS GREEN, AND HE'S NOT AN ORK!"
"WOT? DATZ 'ERESY! LEMME GRAB A HAT FRUM SUMWUN!"
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
As the battle continued Gork thought there was something odd about his brother Mork (or were they the other way around now.)
Staring at him intently at his brother as he grabbed that red gits face and held it under water he realised what it was.
"OY GORK! WAT'S DAT...FING ON YER 'EAD!"
The fing in question was a titanic cone shaped obelisk made of sold gold and marble, adorned with the faces of trillions of screaming children burning in horrific agony.
It was also sitting on a jaunty angle on his brother's head.
"EH? TOOK IT OFF THAT NOB EAD!"
Swinging a single finger around he beheld the groaning form of the Golden Git!
- Location
- Australia
Imperial Knight
@Durin, since the Trust's Knights have a Norse theme to them, I think that the Lord Scions should be Thanes instead of Barons.
The Trust has Titans, we just currently lack the ability to manufacture more of them.
- Location
- madison
we lack sufficient titans to really use them. the knights have been having to pick up the slack, and likely will until we build up a full legion.
- Location
- UK
Is there any particular reason for that?
- Location
- madison
its a 12 year admech action to make a small production lines that will make 1 titan a decade. we just got a giant pile of high priority admech stuff to do.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
@Durin
1. Does the Imperial Trust have any of the largest class of Titan? I mean the really big one.
2. Is there a Titan factory on Avernus?
3. What planet in the Trust builds the Titans for the trust?
4. How long before the Avernus Pattern Titan gets built? I am really looking Forward to when that beauty takes the field.
1. Does the Imperial Trust have any of the largest class of Titan? I mean the really big one.
2. Is there a Titan factory on Avernus?
3. What planet in the Trust builds the Titans for the trust?
4. How long before the Avernus Pattern Titan gets built? I am really looking Forward to when that beauty takes the field.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
...We have the designs for the Imperator, otherwise we physically have Warlords as the largest.
There are no titan factories on Avernus hence why we have the option to build one.
Similar reason no planet in the trust manufactures titans at this stage.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
1. No, the largest we have is Warlords. We have plans for Emperor class ones, but no actual titans.
2. No, we haven't taken the action to build it yet.
3. None, as per answer above.
4. Again, we haven't built the titan manufactorum.
And generally don't ping the QM for question that can be answered by other people (and if you're are not certain, ask).
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) | Page 1561
This is the omake which made Sanctus a thing, this is where it was first mentioned by Durin
Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) | Page 1584
Although not by name.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Thanks and I will try not to Ping Durin again and just ask you guys.
Omake idea list
- Location
- madison
I've created a google doc where people can post and look for omake ideas. feel free to add or claim ideas. to claim an idea just highlight it, right click and select comment. not all ideas are exclusive of course, but even for ideas that are not please comment the specific take your doing on them.
Omake idea list
@Durin would you mind thread marking the above?
Omake idea list
@Durin would you mind thread marking the above?