The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 587 80.3%
  • No

    Votes: 144 19.7%

  • Total voters
    731
[X] Plan Revised 125

Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Pulse Rifles: PDF
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Anti-Psyker Training: Military

Void Command
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Repair Nanites
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Implement (Shield Capacitors): Naval

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Technological Improvements: (Other)
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Technological Improvements: (Other)
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Technological Improvements: (Food)

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Persons of Interest- Inquisitor Klovis-Ultan
-Y2: Sound Out (Getting support to help train and create a order of Psyker Knights from the rest of the trust)
-Y3: Ask Vlad (Are there any noteworthy lifeforms in the regions we've explored that we've missed which he's aware of that could be beneficial to study)
-Y4: Nynye Trade (Ask for help to see if they can extend Klovis-Ultan's lifespan)
-Y5: Sound Out (Loaning troops to the Eldar again for favors)


Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-Y4: Greater Psyker Hunting
-Y5: Counter-Intelligence

AdMech
SLOT A - Year 1 (Free)
-Y1: Technological Improvements: (Advanced Material)
-Y5: Technological Improvements: (Advanced Material)

Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 2
-Y2: On Created Gods
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Greater Divination (Destroyer War - useful intel)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y2: Greater Divination (The Sanguinor)
-Y3: Laws of the Warp
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT B - Year 1 (Xavier)
-Y1: Create Psyker Order (Order of Technomancers)
SLOT C - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)

Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Implement (Volkite Weapons): Planning
-Y3: Personal Attention: Implement (Djinn Skein Gladiatoria): Planning
-Y5: Personal Attention: Implement (Psi-Throne for Knights): Planning
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Personal Attention: Technological Improvements: (Food)
SLOT C - Year 1
-Y1: Spend Time With (Syr (and Sigmund, if they're together))
-Y2: Wedding Bells (Locked)
-Y3: Spend Time With (Klovis-Ultan)
-Y4: Knowing Avernus (QM's Choice)
-Y5: Write In: Take a Vacation
-- You have faithfully served the Emperor for over four hundred years. You rose in the ranks of the Administratum through skill and efficiency, until a twist of fate landed you on what is perhaps the most terrifying Deathworld in all the galaxy. Yet, you did not cease. You continued your work, ever maintaining your faith in the Emperor even after his death. You have lead men into battle, fought traitors and abominations, and nearly died several times. You think... you think you may have earned a vacation. Surely the Emperor will forgive you for taking a vacation to rest for a little while! You've never had one, and other people have told you they're great... even if most of them were tourists coming to Avernus. Still, you've heard nice things about the beaches of Vanaheim. They're said to rival the beauty of those of the Azure Bay. Plus they don't have any poison spewing turtles that resist las fire. Or rogue sirens looking to suck out your soul. Or kraken looking for an easy meal. Or Emperor damned Blink Spiders. That sounds pretty nice.
 
If we give Pulse Rifles to the PDF this turn, doesn't that mean the PDF will end up with better equipment than the Helltroopers?

The Helltrooper action costs almost as much as the PDF option, and will take 10 years vs 15 years. I think it'd be a better idea to finish the Helltrooper one first, to make our military that much potent half a decade earlier.
 
If we give Pulse Rifles to the PDF this turn, doesn't that mean the PDF will end up with better equipment than the Helltroopers?

The Helltrooper action costs almost as much as the PDF option, and will take 10 years vs 15 years. I think it'd be a better idea to finish the Helltrooper one first, to make our military that much potent half a decade earlier.
Our generals want to do the implement action for volkite first before we make a decision for the helltroopers.
 
Maybe but Saint Lin is a shard of the Emperor and they may know of some way to help. Look I am just trying to find some way to keep Saint Lin around and anything short of chaos.
Then pray to the Dice Gods so that the Eldar next attempt to rescuing Isha is during Lin´s Lifetime, or that the Primordial Ocean will push im to transcendent...

That or start making Eldar Omakes, they would probably give the off-screen rolls related with the rescue a small bonus.

Damm, let´s just ask the man.

@Durin Would Omakes related to the Eldar in general and Isha in particular, give a bonus to the rolls related to her rescue?
 
A lot of our projects call for a greater percentage of AM than EM, and we've got a lot more implementations. But I wouldn't mind switching out one of the two tech improvements in the AdMech section to EM if people want.
Since we have 9 actions for AM and 3 for EM. I think we should distribute them in a more balanced way, basically for each 3 AM actons take 1 for EM.
 
So last I checked the major favor with the Eldar was going to be used to get better Warp Travel. When are we going to call that in?
 
So last I checked the major favor with the Eldar was going to be used to get better Warp Travel. When are we going to call that in?
That's, uhm, not the consensus opinion. It's been suggested by some and supported by others, but it's far from a case of us having decided to do it. Major favors are extremely valuable, and unlike minor ones we have no way of replenishing them. And while a boost to our strategic speed would be nice, this is not a case where we can be confident that the Eldar would be able to help a lot and it would take a several fold increase to be an actual game changer.
 
That's, uhm, not the consensus opinion. It's been suggested by some and supported by others, but it's far from a case of us having decided to do it. Major favors are extremely valuable, and unlike minor ones we have no way of replenishing them. And while a boost to our strategic speed would be nice, this is not a case where we can be confident that the Eldar would be able to help a lot and it would take a several fold increase to be an actual game changer.
My mistake, I thought that was consensus.
 
So anyway, @Enjou, what do you think about changing diplo action for trade? We have not even implemented Psi-Throne, so I think that sounding out for help is premature. Besides, we're most certainly not going to get it before the next HC meeting, and we have a lot of turns to sound out before that. And whatever we wildlife we missed, I doubt it's so good that knowing about it earlier would compensate for tens of billions thrones in trade.

Also, it would be cool if you'd change implementation of Shield Capacitors for Advanced Singularity Thrusters. I think that next turn we should ask Security Council about their opinion of replacing escorts, and I'd like to have some numbers about how much ASTs cost before that/
this is not a case where we can be confident that the Eldar would be able to help a lot and it would take a several fold increase to be an actual game changer.
We can, however, ask Eldars what speed do they think they can give us. Personally, my guess would be that with all other stuff, it would bring us to 10 ly/day, a nice round number and around 3 times increase. Maybe to 15.
 
So last I checked the major favor with the Eldar was going to be used to get better Warp Travel. When are we going to call that in?
It isn't better tech. It is them teaching us everything about warp travel from the ground up. They are not going to give us a better warp engine until we understand it completely inside and out.
When conservatives are not on the verge of blowing up.
The conservatives don't care because it is not Xeno tech we are using. It is fundamental knowledge that we then use to build the improved engines. It would be completely human designed and built.

That's, uhm, not the consensus opinion. It's been suggested by some and supported by others, but it's far from a case of us having decided to do it. Major favors are extremely valuable, and unlike minor ones we have no way of replenishing them. And while a boost to our strategic speed would be nice, this is not a case where we can be confident that the Eldar would be able to help a lot and it would take a several fold increase to be an actual game changer.

No consensus was achieved but we did get told that the knowledge would be a major boost to our speeds and that was before we got the new navigator tech so even more of an increase.
 
I'm a strong supporter of Enjou's decision to sound out assistance for Psi Knights. We will be making an order for them very soon and we may as well try to stack more bonuses and secure them early on.
 
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