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The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

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MrWealthman said:
Wouldn't having more champions generally mean that there are more melee masters?
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Well, technically yes. But then you have to remember that the plan has Extra Assault Packs as an option which would allow greater number of assault marines. And since on a technical, assault marines are more easier to train and get than Champion thus getting more them of them in the long run, right?
Admittedly, I was looking at the equipment options of both plans to compare and trying to figure out the potential pros & cons since I knew it would influence in how they fight (to what degree IDNK). Extra Assault Packs option would allow more assault marines in larger numbers than normal and have more marines fighting in close to melee ranges, but the More Thunderhawk option would be able leans itself by transporting & moving marines & carrying their equipments around to other places more faster and thus theoretically be better & useful into playing with the strengths of a Legion-sized & numbers space marine chapter.
You get what i'm trying to figure out and explain, no?
 
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Dr. Gairyuki said:
Well, technically yes. But then you have to remember that the plan has Extra Assault Packs as an option which would allow greater number of assault marines. And since on a technical, assault marines are more easier to train and get than Champion thus getting more them of them in the long run, right?
Admittedly, I was looking at the equipment options of both plans to compare and trying to figure out the potential pros & cons since I knew it would influence in how they fight (to what degree IDNK). Extra Assault Packs option would allow more assault marines in larger numbers than normal and have more marines fighting in close to melee ranges, but the More Thunderhawk option would be able leans itself by transporting & moving marines & carrying their equipments around to other places more faster and thus theoretically be better & useful into playing with the strengths of a Legion-sized & numbers space marine chapter.
You get what i'm trying to figure out and explain, no?
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Somewhat no matter the choice these guys are gonna be melee masters due to the legendary trait but you want us to also have better logistics which would help us generalize a bit more.
 
MrWealthman said:
Somewhat no matter the choice these guys are gonna be melee masters due to the legendary trait but you want us to also have better logistics which would help us generalize a bit more.
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Something along those lines, yeah. But TBF in my defense... this potential chapter no matter whose vote will win is not going to be your typical space marine chapter, but a potentially LEGION-SIZED chapter. Ya know, the one like the Black Templars for example? I mean, this is easily the largest chapter we have done yet at this point. And let not get into the Shamed marines being thrown in when added. So yeah, better logistics will definitely be useful. Plus, there's the prospect of this chapter facing the Black Legion since we are told that a Third Black Crusade is coming soon after its creation.

So... could you blame me for that?
 
Dr. Gairyuki said:
Something along those lines, yeah. But TBF in my defense... this potential chapter no matter whose vote will win is not going to be your typical space marine chapter, but a potentially LEGION-SIZED chapter. Ya know, the one like the Black Templars for example? I mean, this is easily the largest chapter we have done yet at this point. And let not get into the Shamed marines being thrown in when added. So yeah, better logistics will definitely be useful. Plus, there's the prospect of this chapter facing the Black Legion since we are told that a Third Black Crusade is coming soon after its creation.

So... could you blame me for that?
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Not at all but if these guys could be around legion sized best to have the finest chaplains in order to hash out the chapter issues that some may have considering the whole influx of marines from different chapters.
 
Oh yeah, what we creating is a foundation of semi-legion that will be created from that. Other parts of chapter can be fulfilled by members of other Astartes chapters, which I presume will heavily depend on the rolls.
 
Gabriel_TFA said:
Oh yeah, what we creating is a foundation of semi-legion that will be created from that. Other parts of chapter can be fulfilled by members of other Astartes chapters, which I presume will heavily depend on the rolls.
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Oh yeah. All of the events will definitely be heavily depended on the rolls. Plus the modifiers, only if @undead frog decides to throw them in. We need to worry if they're random modifiers.
 
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[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
-- [x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.
 
[x] Plan: Jaguar Rippers
- [x] Chapter Name: Jaguar Rippers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Jaguar print armor with red pauldrons, chains around the gauntlets to be attached to weapons, left pauldron open to chapter of origin (optional).
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A set of fangs clamping down on the sun
- [x] Chapter Creed: Forgiveness is but the first step on the path of redemption
-- [x] Chapter Battlecry: *Aztec Death Whistle* FIGHT, DIE
-[x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
-[x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
--[x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
--[x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
--[x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
--[x] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has enough Assault Packs to equip extra Assault Marines.
 
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