The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)
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The latter part is actually an idea for the 10th chapter
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I mean this already a successor chapter and they called The sons of the Phoenix
It's not that Emperor's Children geneseed will cause them to have selfcest. Is that, it combined with Iron Hands will cause them to be Chapter of the Narcissuses. Ferrus and Fulgrim were best friends. Such combination will result in extreme self-love stemming from vestigial genetic memory.
Selfcest ultimate.
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Don't overreact, you are acting like they would had absolutely had this chapter destroyed rather than just having some issues. Especially since even without the Custodes it was clear our guys had the support of Emperor.
Also it is really just coming across as immense fear mongering when you ignore context completely. For example the one chapter that we made that had political issues were created with the quester knowing full well it would be an issue due to the factors involved including how opposed the Imperial Truth is to the Imperial Faith. And of course the only reason they were in deep shit anyway was because we explicitly got them involved in politics anyway.
And you are also ignoring certain factors and context for this chapter as well. The only reason we had any potential issues with the Inquisition was because of this chapters empathy for civilians. Otherwise hey likely would have not given anywhere near of a shit about a good number of them getting killed off.
What about my idea of Emperor's Children/Word Bearers Chimeric Chapter?
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Wow this has to be one of the most cursed things I've read in a 40k quest quiet impressive actually! 😅
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When you want to say: "fuck this guys in particular"
It also might lessen the scrutini the Black Dragons will suffer, since there is now a precedent for the sons of vulkan to develop this types of mutations.
Now what i think this guys are for is to allow Big E basically coffee breaks from the golden chair. IIRC Emps could heal himselfs if he wasn't stuck in the chair, someone mentioned in this quest before, so the our Golden boys job would basically make a line and sit on the throne for a couple minutes each lets say 5 minutes each, times 1000 thats 3 and a half days Emps would have to spend out if that chair healing, resuming that the 1st guy is not ready for round 2 by the end of it, and codex complaints numbers, wich we know they dont have, they have more. So i presume the idea is for one day GS being able to last enough so Big E can be removed from the throne and healed
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I fear the first time big e stands up he will then collapse cause golly the cramps he must be feeling.
I still remember people saying, no one would even try, or consider because it would be suicide, here we see that the custodes came out to say nay.
Maybe it was not needed, but the fact is, that they have.
I don't ignore, but that chapter also had a custodes come out to force a truce, and said truce has inquisitors watching that no one tries underhanded methods to harm the other, something i already said.
Te point that we made them for that explicitly is not counter to the fact that that chapter needed custodian involment to avoid termination. Because fighting the Eclesiarty and the enemies of the imperium would see them dead.
Also a little tired that you call my opinions "fear mongering", when WH40k is a Grimm Dark, and i merelly pointed possible scenarios. There were realistic chances that any of that would happen.
hell, the fact that the problem would come from inquisitors wanting to purge civilians did not come up! and that could have lead to a Months of Shame scenario.
So....? the fact remains that you said that there would not be problems with the Imperium, and had not custodes intervined before a problem could form, there could have been a serious problem.
All that i want to say is, next time, if you don't want something, at least use arguments, instead of repeating the same and accusing others of fear mongering.
good point
As for the chapter purpose it seems like they are making themselves into replacement throne sitters. I would imagine they prefer to use the geneseed of the marines best able to endure the crucible thrones to make the next generation.
(somewhat crazy idea. What if the Emporer is actually a Golden Son that got set back in time)
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If we do a Osha chapter it would probably be good as a anti nurgle force
If I remember correctly there Grey Knights can combine their psykick might into something greater than the sum of their parts, how many Grey Knights would you need until the Grey Knights collective psykic powers become more powerful thabln the equivalent number of Golden Sons?
Also do the Golden Son Librarians get the same gear as a Grey Knight?
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the Ravens do have a tradition of trading relics, aside from their tendency to salvage just about anything from a bitfield that isn't actively tainted. They also tend to pick enough fights with chaos that giving this to them is probably a good use of it, since the Golden Sons don't really need it.
edit: it was a good idea to mix in salamdners, if they are being groomed to withstand the stress of the throne, mixing in some Vulcan for durability is a good fit for their purpose.
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If we do place white scars chapter on the scottish planet it would probably be a good idea to also give them the Inquisition/Tzeentch Cultists mission as it would give them experience with predicting and countering plans/actions of those under the thrall of Tzeentch.
Remember treats your workers well or the Worksplace Saftly Marines will fine you.
.... Fine you the remaining years of your lifespan I mean.
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And now I have an image of the Golden Couch stuck in my head.
...A part of me is morbidly curious of what if it were Mortarion mixed in instead.
I hope, I sincerely hope, that when we make our 10th Chapter, I'd want them to be given an exemption to make a Legion except only comprising of those who want to volunteer or for redemption purposes.
I know it's a stretch, but I want them to be given exemption by the Emperor himself for Grimm's work of making the Crimson Thrones.
I know it's a stretch, but I want them to be given exemption by the Emperor himself for Grimm's work of making the Crimson Thrones.
It might work, have "The Legion Repentent" (temp name) stationed in a monastery orbiting Caida and rather then using Gene seed to expand their ranks any space marine who feels they have failed can petition their chapter master to be be sent to the Legion's fortress monastery.
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The problem I see with this idea is why would Grimm be involved then? Grimm is a genetor. If these are marines from other chapters looking for redemption then there isn't a need for a specific geneseed and Grimm's expertise. If your letting a legion of repentant marines to exist you don't want to let them have the ability to replenish by making new space marines.
The idea is cool but its more of a political and administrative decision that would ultimately be out of Grimm's wheelhouse.
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True, once they get strong enough then someday they might be able to shares enough burden of the actual golden throne on terra. To alleviate his pain and hopefully get him to reply coherently someday.
Also, it is so weird that there isn't more notable attempts by Thousand sons to try to get their secrets. Since we know Light Bringers, Steel Champions, and Keeper of truth had a very public and notable fights against their lost and damned 'brothers'. So, actually surprised Ahriman or Magnus or any thousand sons legiobs didn't have a notable battle attributed to their name with the Golden sons. Though having Wordbearer and Black legions as their main foes are damned awesome regardless. Hmm may be it occured in some of tge battles that get redacted.
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Golden Sons could also just be sold as descended from Vulkan, which would not even be entirely incorrect. The first chapter Grim made, the Verdant Eyes, also has psykically focused Salamanders, so it would not even be that out of left field.
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Yeah, but Verdant Eyes still battled Thousand Sons. With Golden Sons, they did not, they fought daemons of tzeentch but not Thousand Sons.