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The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

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A neat side benefit of the Chapter's holy golden drake look is that only but the most outrageous detractors would accuse them as anything other than a Salamander Successor Chapter. Hiding a history of horrific TS mutation with another layer of Salamander-flavoured mutation, hah.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Phoenix853456! on Oct 10, 2024 at 6:33 PM, finished with 276 posts and 66 votes.
  • [X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: The Golden Sons
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Artillery Masters: The Chapter are masters at employing artillery in times of war, both on offense and defense.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! (Dreadnought Version)
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Dreadnoughts
    [X] Plan: Dragonborn Paladins
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[X] Colors: Gold Primary, Royal Blue Secondary
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon's Head within a Star all done in gold on royal blue background.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    [X] Plan: Hic Sunt Dracones
    -[x] Write in Name: Emperor's Dragons
    -[x] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors: Golden Scales withe Red Trim.
    -[x] Write in chapter symbol.This but made of Golden Flame
    -[x] Write in chapter creed. (Optional). "Come not between the dragon, and his wrath." "Hoard those closest too you, and burn all who endanger them!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    [x] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY!
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Assault Packs
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons - hoard management
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.: Golden dragon on a black background
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.:
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks, greatly improving the health of the Chapter overall and raising the odds of Marines surviving severe injuries.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.2 (with Extra Dreadnoughts)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.1 (with Extra Thunderhawks)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.3 (with Specialist Ammo)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Specialist Ammo: The Chapter has a ready source of specialized bolter rounds, letting them bring the best possible ammunition for any engagement.
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Dragons are essentially fire breathing tanks with wings.

[x] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
- [x] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
- [x] Chapter Colours:
-- [x] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
-- [x] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
-- [x] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
- [x] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
- [x] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
-- [x] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
- [x] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
- [x] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
- [x] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
 
LysanderArgent said:
[X] Plan: Dragonborn Paladins
-[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
-[X] Colors: Gold Primary, Royal Blue Secondary
-[X] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon's Head within a Star all done in gold on royal blue background.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
-[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
-[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
-[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
-[X] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
-[X] Terminator Charge
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ShieldCrown said:
[X] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! (Dreadnought Version)
-[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
-[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
-[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
-[x] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
-[x] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
-[x] Librarians
-[x] Blademasters
-[x] Techmarines
-[x] Terminator Charge
-[x] Extra Dreadnoughts
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Is it just me, or are these two basically identical? The only differences I can see are how the chapter symbol is described and that one of them specifies royal blue instead of just blue for the secondary color.

Anyway, I like these guys having a legendary trait (and I like the creed describing people as the Emperor's treasure more than one describing them as His hoard), so voting for these:
[X] Plan: Dragonborn Paladins
[x] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY!
[X] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! (Dreadnought Version)
 
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Ekzentric Lohner said:
Is it just me, or are these two basically identical? The only differences I can see are how the chapter symbol is described and that one of them specifies royal blue instead of just blue for the secondary color.
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Nope. They are pretty much the same. I just took the Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! and changed it before ShieldCrown made their Dreadnought version. The aesthetic difference where my preferences.
 
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Red Bovine said:
SNIP.
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You are correct, it was stupid argument on my part to describe doubling down on skills as "redundant" especially, when I myself argued for giving the Chapter of already poweful Psykers even more and better trained Librarians.

Still, I don't agree that Entrenchment synergizes better with Techmarines than Artillery. Techmarines are still responsible also for Chapter weaponry, and the Librarians may come up with some way to enchant their Artillery with Psykery. It absolutely would influence the Artillery and give us at least better cared for heavy firearms.

The argument with Necrons was more "there are things that a Psyker will have hard time killing that lots of guns wouldn't" rather than giving them as a specific enemy the Chapter would have to worry about and will be fighting.
 
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