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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest

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thepsyborg said:
Gwayne, at least, would supposedly

...which I would expect to involve a similar oath albeit for a much shorter duration of service. It wouldn't eliminate rumours, but it might cut down on them a bit, since questioning not just our honour but also the honour of a Hightower does mean whoever's doing said questioning will have earned an additional- and rather less pathologically passive- enemy than just the royals under Viserys.
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Not sure whether it matters over and above the significance of oaths generally, but Gwayne in particular has consistently been a mouthpiece for "oaths above all, my word is my bond," etc. He might be believed, if he has a reputation for not being a hypocrite.
 
I have concerns about not taking Tarly with us, given that his status as our sworn shield is likely to be on thin ice with Viserys soon
Though hopefully he will take the knight thing well enough to not take anything out on him

But if she has defend herself at all during this trip and Tarly isn't there then he's toast
Rhaenyra herself will probably be fine, because martial 8 + dragon
But in theory, she should never have to because that's Tarly's job, and as far as Viserys is concerned if he isn't doing his job then what's the point of him
 
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Daring
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Silver Knight
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Silver
Well, maybe people will like the write ins and we'll get a huge swing lol.
[X] [Travel] Gwayne Hightower
 
hailcapital said:
I think the Gwayne conversation needs to happen soon enough that taking Rhea is a mistake, and also I do not like the optics of taking Rhea (who is a romance option and borderline propositioned us) when we're not taking Alicent. That seems like it's sending mixed messages. But she is at least a politically important ally.
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i mean, the optics for Gwayne ae worse because people would genuiely see that as an expression of interest
 
CrimsonOddball said:
I have concerns about not taking Tarly with us, given that his status as our sworn shield is likely to be on thin ice with Viserys soon
Though hopefully he will take the knight thing well enough to not take anything out on him
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I think this concern is overblown. We've been abroad before with only Syrax for company, when we visited Runestone and the Eyrie to dissuade Arnold's rebellion. And we wouldn't be haring off either—that we would visit Winterfell and the Wall, and that we would do so on dragonback to save a circuitous caravan over bad roads, was part of our itinerary from the start. It may or may not have been anticipated that Syrax would even be large enough by now to carry two people.
 
Teen Spirit said:
Ehh, bit different from them. Cole beat a member of the Kingsguard before facing us and has solid tourney experince and victories. Unwin had the distinct disadvantage of coming into this knowing he would be hated and not caring, even embracing the hatred. Winning in a hostile crowd would have been great for his ego but losing how he did with that crowd was...easily memeable for lack of a better word.
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One way of reading "Unwin Peake" is "natural heel."
 
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Dragon Knight
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Silver Knight
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Daring
[X] [Title write in] Rhaenyra The Knight Princess

[X] [Travel] Gwayne Hightower
[X] [Travel] Rhea Royce
 
Zimmerwald1915 said:
I think this concern is overblown. We've been abroad before with only Syrax for company, when we visited Runestone and the Eyrie to dissuade Arnold's rebellion. And we wouldn't be haring off either—that we would visit Winterfell and the Wall, and that we would do so on dragonback to save a circuitous caravan over bad roads, was part of our itinerary from the start. It may or may not have been anticipated that Syrax would even be large enough by now to carry two people.
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No one would allow Rhaenyra to travel to the Iron Islands without Raylon close by but a stop at Winterfell and the Wall, which Alysanne visited more or less alone, is fine.
 
Teen Spirit said:
No one would allow Rhaenyra to travel to the Iron Islands without Raylon close by but a stop at Winterfell and the Wall, which Alysanne visited more or less alone, is fine.
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Yeah, visiting the Rape Isles on a whim would definitely call for a different sort of entourage than visiting the Honor Castle and the Celibate Order according to a schedule.
 
[X] [Travel] Rhea Royce
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Dragon Knight

Rhea is great and she can help us get more alliances with her potential marriage options. We already have the Manderlys in a blood feud against the Peakes, but more alliances along the North is always good.

I like the Dragon Knight because it's iconic, and Aemon doesn't deserve it. It also puts it into the mind of people as they repeat it, getting them used to the idea of Rhaenyra being a Knight, inception style.
 
hailcapital said:
Not caught up on the convo so this might have already been addressed, but this seems really miscalibrated on which plans are actually important.

Steffon Redfort is an extra who we should only need to do the bare minimum interaction with to give some plausible deniability that we're not just favoring an ally. Frankly, everyone who has two brain cells to rub together is going to see that's what we're doing. It's well known that Jeyne and us are allies. It's well known that Daemon and us are enemies. It's well known that Daemon had a lot of allies in the city watch. Nobody with any basic knowledge of politics is going to see us replace one of Daemon's men with one of our ally's and not come to the conclusion that we're making the entirely sensible political decision of rewarding our friends and seeking to weaken our enemies.

The purpose that bringing him with us on the progress serves is it gives us the fig leaf that it wasn't just that, which can be politically important. This could be fulfilled by taking the train action with him once, and with loads of remaining stops will probably have some time where we want to train and there's nobody better to do it with anyway. We do not have to sell some sort of genuine friendship with him, we do not have the actions to afford it, and even if we did it would not matter because literally nobody would believe it.

In contrast, Gwayne is the only option who's conversation option might be time sensitive to something other than the end of the progress. We recently did stuff that might concern, and he is important as Alicent's brother and therefore someone who's opinion we need to manage if we don't want to make her choose between us and her family, while also being the person best positioned to cover for us and Alicent (whether as a beard or not).

I think the Gwayne conversation needs to happen soon enough that taking Rhea is a mistake, and also I do not like the optics of taking Rhea (who is a romance option and borderline propositioned us) when we're not taking Alicent. That seems like it's sending mixed messages. But she is at least a politically important ally.
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I understand that our action economy is tight but the idea that we only have enough space to ever care about or interact with the characters that are already important seems a little extreme, and more importantly is kind of boring
 
Teen Spirit said:
The Night's Watch would never allow anything to happen to Rhaenyra in this situation, pissing off the crown is a death sentence for the Order.
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Pretty sure this early in the timeline there's probably more knights and volunteers and such among the night's watch rather than the collection of rapists and murderers it had devolved to by Robert's time. Though I could be mistaken about that.
 
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