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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest

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10ebbor10 said:
Eh, I guess.

But Dragon Knight is well, such a clichee.
Couldn't be less subtle about it.

Just has dragon, is knight, therefore dragon knight.
Even though well, the dragon didn't even show up for the tourney.

It feels a bit forced?

[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Falcon
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These are grandiose tourney victor titles to celebrate the woman who sent the most hated individual in White Harbor in living memory sprawling in the dirt. Each of these titles has all the subtlety of a crowd of peasants throwing fruit.
 
Though honestly Manderly's response comes across as a bit of a cope given Peake both came as a finalist and beat both of his sons in the tournament. He literally did better in the joust then anyone other than Rhaenyra while at the same time beating the Manderly's twice.

I have a feeling the guy was sweating super hard before the finals match when he was wondering whether he'd soon be made to hand over the trident to Peake or not only to breath a huge sigh of relief when the Silver Falcon won.
 
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[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Dragon Knight
This is the most straightforward answer simple, catchy, and fit for a Targaryen. Even a nice nudge by the masses to Viserys to knight us.

[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Silver
Though I love this more as this is apt physical description of Rhaenyra even a hint to our Valyrian and Targ root. It is also a more personal and mythic choice. Not only we choose Silver but the sight of our matted and grimy silver hair as the helmet is off may be dramatically exaggerated as halo in future retelling by people. This may be our White Hart moment.

[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Silver Knight
This is deliberate combination of my favourite aspects of both options above: popular nudging Viserys to Knight us and the more personalized Silver symbology. I ask other The Silver voter to approval this so it may rise as high as honor!

[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Daring
I like this more than the Bold. Are both valid write in? @Teen Spirit

[X] [Travel] Rhea Royce
Let's vote the most spite against Daemon. Also in my opinion the most complex choice in politic, relation, and symbology as the possibility to strengthen both our tie to the north, deepen our relation, and our accidental continued homage to Queen Alysanne and Jonquil visit to the North and Wall. In other hand this is another in a long list of favoring our womanly companions that may at last upgrade Johanna Homophobic Gaydar when she hear of it.

[X] [Travel] Gwayne Hightower
[X] [Travel] Steffon Redfort
One is funny and the other is a great choice if we want to pursue United Front with Gwayne. It may even opened up Romance with him (Which I don't want cause it may be a step too far for Gwayne and Alicent to share a lover). Though I enjoy wishful thought of introducing non romantic hetero friendship to public consciousness at the opposite end of introducing Gay marriage with Alicent as progress for feminist and queer history in Westeros.

Both are fraught with being alone with possible marriage candidate for long time and may show unintended favor in public view. Winterfell dragon ride is a trip where we are alone with our companion in long period of time. Imo It is also too big of a show of favor for Steffon as I just want him as friend and watch commander. We still have many opportunity for deepening relationship even short dragon ride as it is still only the second kingdom after the Vale where picked Steffon up especially with the reduced training demand our win put us. Imo If we choose him here it is similarly abrupt to the outside view as just appointing him to Watch commander.
 
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Imperious said:
Though honestly Manderly's response comes across as a bit of a cope given Peake both came as a finalist and beat both of his sons in the tournament. He literally did better in the joust then anyone other than Rhaenyra while at the same time beating the Manderly's twice.

I have a feeling the guy was sweating super hard before the finals match when he was wondering whether he'd soon be made to hand over the trident to Peake or not only to breath a huge sigh of relief when the Silver Falcon won.
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Who cares? Cope that works in our favor is good.
 
UrbanAvena said:
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Silver Knight
This is deliberate combination of my favourite aspects of both options above: popular nudging Viserys to Knight us and the more personalized Silver symbology. I ask other The Silver voter to approval this so it may rise as high as honor!

[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Daring
I like this more than the Bold. Are both valid write in? @Teen Spirit
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Approved.


Imperious said:
Though honestly Manderly's response comes across as a bit of a cope given Peake both came as a finalist and beat both of his sons in the tournament. He literally did better in the joust then anyone other than Rhaenyra while at the same time beating the Manderly's twice.

I have a feeling the guy was sweating super hard before the finals match when he was wondering whether he'd soon be made to hand over the trident to Peake or not only to breath a huge sigh of relief when the Silver Falcon won.
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It's a matter of optics. Yes Unwin did very well and was close to claiming an impressive victory (Not really, the odds of him being Rhaenyra or Cole were very remote) but his first notable fight of the tourney saw him nearly lose to an actual child and he did end up losing to a 16 year old girl. So yes in reality in he did quite well but that's not what people will remember.
 
Teen Spirit said:
It's a matter of optics. Yes Unwin did very well and was close to claiming an impressive victory (Not really, the odds of him being Rhaenyra or Cole were very remote) but his first notable fight of the tourney saw him nearly lose to an actual child and he did end up losing to a 16 year old girl. So yes in reality in he did quite well but that's not what people will remember.
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Sucks to be Elmo, Borros and Cole then, who didn't even make it that far. Cole especially given that at this point he doesn't really have anything to his name other than his reputation of being a successful tourney knight, which is now attached to his loss to a 16 year old girl.
 
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Imperious said:
Sucks to be Elmo, Borros and Cole then, who didn't even make it that far. Cole especially given that at this point he doesn't really have anything to his name other than his reputation of being a successful tourney knight, which is now attached to his loss to a 16 year old girl.
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Ehh, bit different from them. Cole beat a member of the Kingsguard before facing us and has solid tourney experince and victories. Unwin had the distinct disadvantage of coming into this knowing he would be hated and not caring, even embracing the hatred. Winning in a hostile crowd would have been great for his ego but losing how he did with that crowd was...easily memeable for lack of a better word.
 
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Bold
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Dragon Knight
[X] [Title] Rhaenyra The Silver
[X] [Title] Write-in : Rhaenyra The Silver Knight

I mostly want The Bold since that evokes our widely beloved Grandfather, Baelon the Brave whom our father greatly respects and who got that epithet doing about what we just did. Failing that, anything but The Falcon despite it's sizeable lead.

[X] [Travel] Rhea Royce
[X] [Travel] Steffon Redfort

As for travel, we haven't done much with Rhea and that's a damn shame, I respect Steffon's reasoning for wanting to join us, and we do need to be plausibly close to him for his appointment and thus, our plans, to work out.
 
[X] [Title write in] Rhaenyra The Princess Knight or The Knight Princess

[X] [Travel] Gwayne Hightower

[X] [Travel] Rhea Royce
 
Randino Treviani said:
general, can we stop focusing on Rhea and Gwayne who we have invested multiple actions in and are sufficiently strong allies to have many more chances of spending time with, and actually follow through on a plan we made? For once?
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Not caught up on the convo so this might have already been addressed, but this seems really miscalibrated on which plans are actually important.

Steffon Redfort is an extra who we should only need to do the bare minimum interaction with to give some plausible deniability that we're not just favoring an ally. Frankly, everyone who has two brain cells to rub together is going to see that's what we're doing. It's well known that Jeyne and us are allies. It's well known that Daemon and us are enemies. It's well known that Daemon had a lot of allies in the city watch. Nobody with any basic knowledge of politics is going to see us replace one of Daemon's men with one of our ally's and not come to the conclusion that we're making the entirely sensible political decision of rewarding our friends and seeking to weaken our enemies.

The purpose that bringing him with us on the progress serves is it gives us the fig leaf that it wasn't just that, which can be politically important. This could be fulfilled by taking the train action with him once, and with loads of remaining stops will probably have some time where we want to train and there's nobody better to do it with anyway. We do not have to sell some sort of genuine friendship with him, we do not have the actions to afford it, and even if we did it would not matter because literally nobody would believe it.

In contrast, Gwayne is the only option who's conversation option might be time sensitive to something other than the end of the progress. We recently did stuff that might concern, and he is important as Alicent's brother and therefore someone who's opinion we need to manage if we don't want to make her choose between us and her family, while also being the person best positioned to cover for us and Alicent (whether as a beard or not).

I think the Gwayne conversation needs to happen soon enough that taking Rhea is a mistake, and also I do not like the optics of taking Rhea (who is a romance option and borderline propositioned us) when we're not taking Alicent. That seems like it's sending mixed messages. But she is at least a politically important ally.
 
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